Dragon Ball Super English Premiere on Toonami Asia!

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Post by Ssgvegito30 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:21 am

There's a rumour going about dragonball super will have 52 episodes altogether, it's a fake rumour check this for proof....
https://youtu.be/nN3CoLPWbJQ I'm sure db super will have at least 80 to 100 episodes than if the ratings go up and if dbs merchandise/toys sell than maybe we may get at least 150 to 200 eps just my thought I hope it happens
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Post by Blade » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:39 am

Ssgvegito30 wrote:There's a rumour going about dragonball super will have 52 episodes altogether, it's a fake rumour check this for proof....
https://youtu.be/nN3CoLPWbJQ I'm sure db super will have at least 80 to 100 episodes than if the ratings go up and if dbs merchandise/toys sell than maybe we may get at least 150 to 200 eps just my thought I hope it happens
I think your heart is in the right place. Whilst you're quite right that the quoted figure merely pertains to the size of the Toonami Asia broadcast order, it's still an official indication of some sort of production scope, which for now at least, confirms or denies nothing in concrete terms, but provides at the very least a minimum series length.

52 episodes is a nice, round and common figure for an anime series to run. 90% of the time, the only time that things tend to go on beyond that in the current climate are productions that follow the weekly serialisation path of Jump-based properties such as One Piece, Naruto and World Trigger. As we know, Dragonball Super isn't following a weekly serialisaton, but rather a process of adapting the two most recent films before moving into a new story arc written by Toriyama. By current estimations, it is believed that the adaptation of the latest film will be done by around episode 26, which would then leave a whole further 26 episodes for the 'Universe 6' arc if 52 was indeed the total episode count.

All I'm saying is that unless Toei are leaving things open for Toriyama to provide future direction beyond Universe 6, I think it's not the most absurd thing to speculate that 52 episodes is where the series could very possibly end.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:00 pm

A 52 episode Toonami Asia order indicates that Super will run beyond 52 episodes. Remember how many episodes of Kai ran in a year? Because of holidays it was less than 52. We all know how rigid Japan can be about seasonal premieres, so if Super has at least 52 episodes the last couple are going to be from its second year on Fuji TV.

Site staff have confirmed that Funimation has denied involvement with this dub:
FUNimation has no connection with the Toonami Asia Announcement or the premiere of its English language version of Dragon Ball Super in mid-2016.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:26 pm

I'm pretty sure Funimation will dub it sooner then later. Even if it comes out late then it will still sell well. People worry about fan subs will hurt sales when causal fans will wait for the dub and buy it on blu-ray. I see a lot of causal fans that they said that they will wait for the English dub for the show. Most American DB fans are not into the Japanese version like most of us are.
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:53 pm

I wonder if this will be a TV-only dub?
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Post by Blade » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:01 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:I wonder if this will be a TV-only dub?
Possibly not, the territories that it's going to air in, to my knowledge, aren't places where the home releases of the Funimation dub have been distributed.
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Post by ssjvegeta420 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:51 pm

bruce falconer NEEDS TO DO THE MUSIC, he makes it sooo much more epic

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Post by sangofe » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:23 am

Blade wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:I wonder if this will be a TV-only dub?
Possibly not, the territories that it's going to air in, to my knowledge, aren't places where the home releases of the Funimation dub have been distributed.
Your post makes No sense. Surely you meant the opposite?

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Post by Puto » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:39 am

Asian English anime dubs are almost always TV-only.
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Post by Blade » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:48 am

sangofe wrote:
Blade wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:I wonder if this will be a TV-only dub?
Possibly not, the territories that it's going to air in, to my knowledge, aren't places where the home releases of the Funimation dub have been distributed.
Your post makes No sense. Surely you meant the opposite?
Then allow me to provide elucidation.

If the dub is being broadcast in territories where Funimation doesn't have home media distribution rights, it opens up the possibility for this dub to be released in that manner, just as the Spanish dub was released on home video in Spanish territories and some of the AB distributed 'Big Green' movie dubs were released in the UK where they also aired on TV.

Does that make sufficient sense? As Puto says, it's unlikely, but I am arguing that there is historic precedent for it within this franchise.
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:28 am

ssjvegeta420 wrote:bruce falconer NEEDS TO DO THE MUSIC, he makes it sooo much more epic
English dubs don't get replacement scores anymore.

The only way Faulconer would come back for Super is if TOEI hired him to compose new music for the Japanese version, and that's not going to happen.

I like Faulconer's music myself, but the past is the past. The Dragon Ball franchise is going in new directions now.
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Post by Puto » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:34 am

Besides, FUNimation and Faulconer are not on good terms anymore, ever since he threw a hissy fit when he wasn't chosen to score GT.
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Post by Azelf89 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:49 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:
ssjvegeta420 wrote:bruce falconer NEEDS TO DO THE MUSIC, he makes it sooo much more epic
English dubs don't get replacement scores anymore.

The only way Faulconer would come back for Super is if TOEI hired him to compose new music for the Japanese version, and that's not going to happen.

I like Faulconer's music myself, but the past is the past. The Dragon Ball franchise is going in new directions now.
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Allow me to direct your attention to the English dubs of the 2005 "Doraemon" series (specifically the US dub), "Pokémon" and "LBX", all three of which have had each of their soundtracks replaced.

While replacement scores are still a thing even today, they're just nowhere near as common as they were back then.

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Post by ZodaEX » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:35 pm

ssjvegeta420 wrote:bruce falconer NEEDS TO DO THE MUSIC, he makes it sooo much more epic
Why are you yelling at me? And if you were right about making it epic, i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be the default audio track on the Blu-Rays..........
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Post by sangofe » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:05 am

Blade wrote:
Then allow me to provide elucidation.

If the dub is being broadcast in territories where Funimation doesn't have home media distribution rights, it opens up the possibility for this dub to be released in that manner, just as the Spanish dub was released on home video in Spanish territories and some of the AB distributed 'Big Green' movie dubs were released in the UK where they also aired on TV.

Does that make sufficient sense? As Puto says, it's unlikely, but I am arguing that there is historic precedent for it within this franchise.
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Post by Basaku » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:47 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:A 52 episode Toonami Asia order indicates that Super will run beyond 52 episodes. Remember how many episodes of Kai ran in a year? Because of holidays it was less than 52. We all know how rigid Japan can be about seasonal premieres, so if Super has at least 52 episodes the last couple are going to be from its second year on Fuji TV.

Site staff have confirmed that Funimation has denied involvement with this dub:
FUNimation has no connection with the Toonami Asia Announcement or the premiere of its English language version of Dragon Ball Super in mid-2016.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/11/10/to ... b-in-2016/
I dont think it really indicates anything other than 52 being 'guaranteed' for the time being and most likely being the main plan for now finishing current arc.

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Post by Araki » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:15 pm

Super Saiyan Prime is actually correct about this: it's impossible for the show to end at that exact number (52) at this point.
I explain: if Super were to run for four cours/one year (52 weeks), it lost two weeks due to breaks already, the first in July and the upcoming one in January. Assuming there will be another break in the first semester next year, as Fuji's usual, the series would end with 49 episodes if that was the case, in the end of June'16. Japanese seasons are really strict about that.

So, is the U6 arc gonna have only 20 episodes or so? That's doubtful.

That said, in this case, 52 was just used as a placeholder. The Toonami Asia run will start one year after the Japan premiere. So that's probably what they meant, they bought a full year's worth of episodes.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:54 pm

Azelf89 wrote:
Allow me to direct your attention to the English dubs of the 2005 "Doraemon" series (specifically the US dub), "Pokémon" and "LBX", all three of which have had each of their soundtracks replaced.
Those animes are market to kids though. Super will likely be market to the older fandom that grew up with the series outside of Japan.
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Post by Basaku » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:09 pm

Araki wrote:Super Saiyan Prime is actually correct about this: it's impossible for the show to end at that exact number (52) at this point.
I explain: if Super were to run for four cours/one year (52 weeks), it lost two weeks due to breaks already, the first in July and the upcoming one in January. Assuming there will be another break in the first semester next year, as Fuji's usual, the series would end with 49 episodes if that was the case, in the end of June'16. Japanese seasons are really strict about that.

So, is the U6 arc gonna have only 20 episodes or so? That's doubtful.

That said, in this case, 52 was just used as a placeholder. The Toonami Asia run will start one year after the Japan premiere. So that's probably what they meant, they bought a full year's worth of episodes.
Then why are 13/26/52 season orders such a standard in Japanese media? Every year/quarter has break weeks, holidays and events

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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:14 pm

Basaku wrote:Then why are 13/26/52 season orders such a standard in Japanese media? Every year/quarter has break weeks, holidays and events
There have been all sorts of 9/10 or 24 or 50 episode-long "seasons" as long as I can remember. It certainly happens.
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