"F" Movie - pointless?

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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by AnimeMaakuo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:56 am

coola wrote:I might be wrong, but i think, with the exception of Blooma finally able to see how Freeza look, and meet with Jako after so many years, the entire movie was pointless:
- They resurrect iconic villain, only to kill him off at the end
- Freeza challenge was supposed to be some sort of test for Goku and Vegeta, show them their flaws, and what happened because of their overconfidence, and by the end of movie, they still are like "Yeah, we still won't team up, nothing happened" Completely ignoring what Whis tried to teach them.
I really hope F will manage to tweak some plot elements
The "F" Movie sucked IMO. They reused and resurrected an iconic villain, who, somehow acquired this new transformation (which appeared out of nowhere and looks nothing different than before), only to kill him off by a Saiyan with blue hair(?) I was uncomfortable the entire time after seeing the eye gouging animation. I'm not sure how much more wood they can chip out of the ol' tree before it finally busts, but the Super Saiyan element has lost it's meaning entirely and I'm afraid I can't take it seriously.
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by Bullza » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:26 am

Not any worse than the show. Goku turned Super Saiyan partly out of nowhere and beat Frieza with blonde hair while hardly looking any different than before.

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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by AnimeMaakuo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:42 pm

Bullza wrote:Not any worse than the show. Goku turned Super Saiyan partly out of nowhere and beat Freeza with blonde hair while hardly looking any different than before.
No, Trunks defeated Freeza (back when they had a real story about how Freeza survived). That was a lot more entertaining than what's on today's menu. But I think you're missing my entire point.

To me, there's a difference between transforming into something that nobody has ever seen on a TV show before, and reusing that same element to the point where their hair becomes violet and blue (with Godlike powers). It's total crap and there's no excuse for such laziness. When I first saw Goku turn Super Saiyan, I remember getting butterflies in my stomach because it showed how he was losing a part of his innocence. In the newer latest installments, they gathered around Goku so that he could become a "Super Saiyan God", and then later a "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan". That doesn't even make any sense. What's next, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2 and 3? If they wanted to ruin the show and snatch your money, they've done a pretty good job so far. At least nothing is officially canon, so I can stick to the original show without any concerns.

My conclusion: They're trying to ever so elegantly phase out the Super Saiyan transformation as a joke and market the crap out of God fluff - just how it was with Yu-Gi-Oh and other shows. It's tiring to follow and I'm getting too old for it. Even I have better movie ideas, but that's just what I think.
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by ABED » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:21 pm

back when they had a real story about how Freeza survived
How was the first one a real story? Freeza took the Genki Dama head on, had the hell beaten out of him by a Super Saiyan, lost a ton of energy fighting in his perfect form, got cut in half, and used his remaining energy in a futile attempt to kill Goku only to get apparently killed and SOMEHOW survived ALL of that and the explosion of an entire planet. That's a real story of how he survived?
At least nothing is officially canon, so I can stick to the original show without any concerns.
It is an official continuation of the series by the original author, and regardless, the film exists, canon or not.
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by Sinestro » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:55 pm

I'm a Freeza fan, so it wasn't pointless for me.

I do wish he had been a bigger threat in the movie, though.

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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:29 pm

As a Frieza fan, it should be easier to hate this movie.
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by AnimeMaakuo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:38 pm

ABED wrote:
At least nothing is officially canon, so I can stick to the original show without any concerns.
It is an official continuation of the series by the original author, and regardless, the film exists, canon or not.
I understand you're probably offended by my distaste from something I feel so passionately about, but you're more than welcome to skip past it. Nobody said it was "official". The closest thing we ever got was that it's a complete continuation of the Majin Boo arc. Nowhere did they say "hey, this is canon!" And even if they did, people who don't follow that school of thought don't have to accept it.
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by ABED » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:00 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:
ABED wrote:
At least nothing is officially canon, so I can stick to the original show without any concerns.
It is an official continuation of the series by the original author, and regardless, the film exists, canon or not.
I understand you're probably offended by my distaste from something I feel so passionately about, but you're more than welcome to skip past it. Nobody said it was "official". The closest thing we ever got was that it's a complete continuation of the Majin Boo arc. Nowhere did they say "hey, this is canon!" And even if they did, people who don't follow that school of thought don't have to accept it.
What is with this whole things need to be spelled out for people thing. It doesn't need to be said. And offended is a strong word. I wasn't offended by anything. What is or isn't canon doesn't matter anyway. You can like it or not regardless.
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by DanielSSJ » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:11 am

Yeah, it didn't expand the world in any way, nor did it develope the characters. The only thing Resurrection F did was showcase SSGSS, and they could've done that at any point after Battle of Gods.
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:04 am

It also introduces Jaco who is going to be of some help in the Universe 6 arc. It also gives humans chance to fight once again and that alone is pure greatness. And epic fights and cool new form.

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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by Noah » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:31 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:Would you rather have it so that Freeza won and killed all of us?
I don't know about you, but I don't live on DBZ Earth...
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Re: "F" Movie - pointless?

Post by Cipher » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:25 pm

coola wrote:I might be wrong, but i think, with the exception of Blooma finally able to see how Freeza look, and meet with Jako after so many years, the entire movie was pointless:
- They resurrect iconic villain, only to kill him off at the end
- Freeza challenge was supposed to be some sort of test for Goku and Vegeta, show them their flaws, and what happened because of their overconfidence, and by the end of movie, they still are like "Yeah, we still won't team up, nothing happened" Completely ignoring what Whis tried to teach them.
I really hope F will manage to tweak some plot elements
It's the story that introduced Goku and Vegeta training under Whis, which is big, as well as their new forms, and some universe expansion with the Freeza army and Jaco.

I don't know what else you want from a 90-minute movie. It's on the fun, breezy side, but people seem to overlook that it progressed the series' status quo in a number of ways.

When we think about where the characters "are" right now, it's entirely based on information given to us in F, and quite different from where things were in the previous film.

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