Anyone consider or want GT as canon?

[sintzu]

I prefer them not limit themselves to fitting with GT, but if they don't go past EOZ they should fit with GT.

How do they do that ? there's so much they'd have to get rid of that the only way to do it would be to have the events of Super be a dream Goku wakes up from before the tournament with Uub.

[Cetra]

Not that it means anything but to me Super is just what it is on the timeline, the story in vol. 42 and GT what it is on the timeline, the story after vol. 42. One timeline, regardless of inconsistencies. Just as the Cell plothole created by two vols. I have no right to decide that though. Still, pretty much what you get from Toei as answer. "GT happens after Super". No actual answer if it actually does follow one continuity (even if something sounds like that - but I am fair).

[Bansho64]

I agree with Lord Beerus. GT was just a harmless side story. But what really matters, is if you enjoyed it. I hated Minus even though it's canon. I loved the first Bardock special even though it got retconned. The only canon thing to me nowadays is the 42 volumes of the manga (tankobon or Kanzenban)

[sintzu]

The only way I can see Gt fitting in the same timeline as Super is if Toriyama decides to remake the whole story from scratch and take Super's plot into account.

[Zephyr]

I really like GT, but it's not in continuity with where the franchise seems to be going heading forward, and that's fine--in my mind it's part of the first anime trilogy continuity-wise (headcanon?), but any thoughts of "canon" stop there, because there isn't one. Whether I think it's a better overall path will depend on how the new material ends. More than likely I'll continue to have some appreciation for each, as I already do for both the manga and GT's endings.

Consider me to be in this camp. I'm about half way through a much needed rewatch of GT (3 or so episodes into the Super 17 arc), and I've really been enjoying myself. It's got a lot of great character moments, techniques, and strategies. It does have its fair share of problems, but then, so does Super. I see a lot of people downplay the problems of one, while drawing a lot of attention to the problems of the other. They're both really flawed (to the point where I would call both of them mediocre continuations), but they're also both pretty enjoyable.

Ideally, I'd be able to place them both in continuity together, but the farther I get into this rewatch, the less possible that looks. Which is fine. I'm perfectly okay with multiple different continuities, and with time travel being a thing that exists, one can coherently consider both of them "canon".

[Cetra]

I really like GT, but it's not in continuity with where the franchise seems to be going heading forward, and that's fine--in my mind it's part of the first anime trilogy continuity-wise (headcanon?), but any thoughts of "canon" stop there, because there isn't one. Whether I think it's a better overall path will depend on how the new material ends. More than likely I'll continue to have some appreciation for each, as I already do for both the manga and GT's endings.

Consider me to be in this camp. I'm about half way through a much needed rewatch of GT (3 or so episodes into the Super 17 arc), and I've really been enjoying myself. It's got a lot of great character moments, techniques, and strategies. It does have its fair share of problems, but then, so does Super. I see a lot of people downplay the problems of one, while drawing a lot of attention to the problems of the other. They're both really flawed (to the point where I would call both of them mediocre continuations), but they're also both pretty enjoyable.

Sounds fair to me.

[Kuririn Fan]

Mike said: Every time I read a conversation like this - specifically about GT - it comes across as, "I like this series, but I'm embarrassed about it, so please validate my enjoyment of this series, because I'm incapable of independent thought."
You still didn't convince me that he wasn't right.
And i'm not a troll, people who don't like GT are not trolls.

And why do I need to convince you? You can not like Gt, but going to forums of dragonball and mocking it, going to GT videos just to bash it and going out of your way to message me aggressively about your hatred of GT...yeah obvious trolling. Owning you is fun but I think I should stop feeding you. Bye, it's been...fun.

What the fuck is even going on?
You are one odd fellow.

[successoroffate]

I really like GT, but it's not in continuity with where the franchise seems to be going heading forward, and that's fine--in my mind it's part of the first anime trilogy continuity-wise (headcanon?), but any thoughts of "canon" stop there, because there isn't one. Whether I think it's a better overall path will depend on how the new material ends. More than likely I'll continue to have some appreciation for each, as I already do for both the manga and GT's endings.

Consider me to be in this camp. I'm about half way through a much needed rewatch of GT (3 or so episodes into the Super 17 arc), and I've really been enjoying myself. It's got a lot of great character moments, techniques, and strategies. It does have its fair share of problems, but then, so does Super. I see a lot of people downplay the problems of one, while drawing a lot of attention to the problems of the other. They're both really flawed (to the point where I would call both of them mediocre continuations), but they're also both pretty enjoyable.

Ideally, I'd be able to place them both in continuity together, but the farther I get into this rewatch, the less possible that looks. Which is fine. I'm perfectly okay with multiple different continuities, and with time travel being a thing that exists, one can coherently consider both of them "canon".

Stupid question, Are you watching in Japanese or Funi's English atrocity?

[Cetra]

I don't understand both of you but those types of conversations are the reason to reconsider posting such threads in the first place. I hope a few more posts about the actual topic will follow as I like to read more about it.

[Soppa Saia People]

I don't understand both of you but those types of conversations are the reason to reconsider posting such threads in the first place. I hope a few more posts about the actual topic will follow as I like to read more about it.

Same, Kuririn fan besides your first two posts I don't see why you keep posting in this thread, we get it you don't like GT.
Anyway I've always agreed with Toriyama and the subject, harmless but fun side story.

[Cetra]

Seriously, everytime I am watching a clip of GT I just think that it is solid and cool. There are some weird moments but overall I just like it as the sequel to Dragon Ball. Which is also a problem about Super for me. It does not even tell a story about the future after vol. 42.

[Zephyr]

Stupid question, Are you watching in Japanese or Funi's English atrocity?

I'm watching it in Japanese.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

I don't understand both of you but those types of conversations are the reason to reconsider posting such threads in the first place. I hope a few more posts about the actual topic will follow as I like to read more about it.

Same, Kuririn fan besides your first two posts I don't see why you keep posting in this thread, we get you don't like GT.
Anyway I've always agreed with Toriyama and the subject, harmless but fun after story.

Just ignore him. Trust me. Unless you like humiliating people. I'm a bit ashamed of taking advantage of the kid. ;/

I think it's good when we get what we're getting now, some level headed people who realize that the word canon doesn't change weather or not something is good or not. It just means "part of a continuity" and both are in a canon each, but the question is if they are/ will be in the same canon?

I mean you can say plot holes to separate two shows..but then Z isn't canon to ball and then GT isn't canon to Z. Neither is the case, dragonball is just full of plot holes. It's still connecting to the consistent and inconsistent parts. Like Yamcha being impressed and chocked by piccolo blowing up a city After seeing Roshi blow up the moon....like what?

The only way I can see Gt fitting in the same timeline as Super is if Toriyama decides to remake the whole story from scratch and take Super's plot into account.

They can say the god ki merged with the normal ki, and the gods of destruction njsut stop needing to be around , or beerus goes into some deep sleep for the sake of saving goku and friends because he grew to love them, whis watches over them, universe 6 stays in universe 6, jaco doesn't need to visit it's all good. I mean in writing you really don't have limitations, only your imagination can limit you, and there's no limit to how imaginative you can be if you try hard enough. They literally control the entire fictional universes they create. Logically you can't make yamcha beat beerus but if Toriyama wanted to, he could write it. Nothing could stop him from saying he had blah blah that makes him stronger now.

[Iberian_Saiyan]

To be honest, as a long-time Dragon Ball fan this thing of 'canon' or 'non-canon' never really peaked my interest. I'd say I just prefer how things are without looking too deep into it.

P.S. I love Dragon Ball GT and hope that someday it'll get a well-deserved high definition remaster release on Blu-ray. Plus, a CD collection of the GT soundtrack.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

To be honest, as a long-time Dragon Ball fan this thing of 'canon' or 'non-canon' never really peaked my interest. I'd say I just prefer how things are without looking too deep into it.

P.S. I love Dragon Ball GT and hope that someday it'll get a well-deserved high definition remaster release on Blu-ray. Plus, a CD collection of the GT soundtrack.

I say GT and the OG DB need to be on American dragonboxes. I like GT. I kind of want a sequal but not with the super style of animation and with a equally good ending or better when it ends.

[Iberian_Saiyan]

Funimation has already released Dragon Box GT in US but it's known as the 'GT Singles', the only problem with it though, is that the video quality was compressed and at times it looked very pixelated (it didn't ruin the experience for me anyhow). Wish they'd have used DVD9 for this and the DBZ Fullscreen movies.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Funimation has already released Dragon Box GT in US but it's known as the 'GT Singles', the only problem with it though, is that the video quality was compressed and at times it looked very pixelated (it didn't ruin the experience for me anyhow). Wish they'd have used DVD9 for this and the DBZ Fullscreen movies.

I don't think that's the GT dragonbox, I've compared shots I got and the colors look different, I think the singles look BETTER but I want the GT DB for collector's sake.

[Iberian_Saiyan]

The GT Singles used Dragon Box GT as its source and they kept it all, even the NEPs.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

The GT Singles used Dragon Box GT as its source and they kept it all, even the NEPs.

They did? Then that comparison shot must have been wrong, how do you know this?

[VegettoEX]

The GT Singles used Dragon Box GT as its source and they kept it all, even the NEPs.

FUNimation's single discs? That's impossible considering FUNimation began releasing the series in 2003 and the GT Dragon Box didn't come out until 2005. In fact, FUNimation had released the entirety of the series (including back around to "The Lost Episodes") by the time the Dragon Box came out.

It's just that GT was a more-recent series and FUNimation were given better materials to work with.