Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

[Beyond]

If Gohan is going to get the Piccolo vs Frost treatment, he'd be better off without a fight at all.

He'll be lucky if he just gets that.

True Piccolo vs frost was leagues better than Gohan vs Frieza even yamcha wouldn't get treated like that.

[namekiansaiyan]

If Gohan is going to get the Piccolo vs Frost treatment, he'd be better off without a fight at all.

He'll be lucky if he just gets that.

His getting nothing and we should prepare for 2 weeks of Gohan fans raging between episode 52 and 53.

[IGhostUlt]

I should just give up.

[sintzu]

Gohan is going to become relevant again because of some jarring asspull to sell more merchandise.

Merchandise is the main thing holding the story back cause every decision is based on how many toys and cards can be sold.

If Super was based on a manga like the original then the story would come first cause the manga would be the main product, not the toys and cards.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Gohan is going to become relevant again because of some jarring asspull to sell more merchandise.

Merchandise is the main thing holding the story back cause every decision is based on how many toys and cards can be sold.

If Super was based on a manga like the original then the story would come first cause the manga would be the main product, not the toys and cards.

Don try to to pretend this was never the case with every other animated product in the franchise.

[sintzu]

Don try to to pretend this was never the case with every other animated product in the franchise.

Long running anime based on manga are made to sell the manga, sure they want to sell toys and other things but that's not the #1 priority like it is with Super, Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon,ect.

That's not an opinion, it's an established fact in the industry.

Anime is very expensive in Japan so the ones that are made to be sold are usually short ones that don't require years of investing money into.

[namekiansaiyan]

Don try to to pretend this was never the case with every other animated product in the franchise.

Long running anime based on manga are made to sell the manga, sure they want to sell toys and other things but that's not the #1 priority like it is with Super, Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon,ect.

That's not an opinion, it's an established fact in the industry.

Anime is very expensive in Japan so the ones that are made to be sold are usually short ones that don't require years of investing money into.

Merchandise is mostly for Japan but Toei are going to get huge money from licencing internationally and will probably be about half the money Super earns so that should not affect the story, the only person to moan at is Toriyama as he writes it and not Toei.

[sintzu]

Merchandise is mostly for Japan but Toei are going to get huge money from licencing internationally and will probably be about half the money Super earns so that should not affect the story, the only person to moan at is Toriyama as he writes it and not Toei.

Toriyama said the current story was suggested to him by the editorial so we know he's not completely working alone and if you look at the below :

Freeza's return : doing nothing with him story wise and just giving him a new form.
Champa and Vados : alternate versions of the 2 new fan favorite Beerus and Whis.
Frost : an alternate version of the most popular villain.
Cabbe : a new saiyan who might introduce more and nothing sells more merchandise than saiyans.
Future Trunks : currently the main focus of the biggest games : heroes and xenoverse.
An evil Goku : One of the biggest fan fictions in the franchise.
Ssj : Ssjg was supposed to get rid of the need for 2 and 3 and mainly focus on 1 but in RF Blue came out of nowhere and was said to be 1's replacement and now all of them are back and can be used even though it completely goes against what was said in RF. and don't forget the teased white form.
Gohan, Piccolo, Tien,ect : they never moved as much merchandise as Goku, Vegeta & Future Trunks so coincidentally they have no role in the story.

I find it hard to believe that merchandise isn't heavily taken into account while making decisions on where to take the story and I think this would be a very different story if it was based on a manga.

[Lord Beerus]

Gohan will become relevant to the plot when Toriyama or Toei can figure a way to fit him into the plot without it feeling shoehorned in or when Toriyama decides to throw him a bone and have him become a SSJB for shits and giggles.

[dbzfan7]

Gohan will become relevant to the plot when Toriyama or Toei can figure a way to fit him into the plot without it feeling shoehorned in or when Toriyama decides to throw him a bone and have him become a SSJB for shits and giggles.

If he really is Zack Ryder, he'll get one miracle before being shat upon. Let's see what that miracle is before Zack Ryder is pushed off the cliff again.

[Sodhi]

Episode #52 will tell us about the fate of gohan. He either slowly start to get more screentime or he completely irrvallanet in Super.

[MozillaVulpix]

See, there's a difference between "him not being the strongest character in the show" and "having the world constantly be in danger while Gohan decides to do nothing but sit on his ass and do scholarly work". That's my issue here. No, Gohan doesn't want to fight, but that doesn't mean he would ignore a threat to the peace of his planet. The world being in peace is always going to be more important than his studies. Heck, that was point with Chi-Chi! She said his studies were more important than the fate of the world, but it was treated as a massive exaggeration that shouldn't be taken seriously under any circumstances. If Gohan sits this Black threat out for no reason other than he likes being in peace (and that's the best excuse the writers can give for not wanting to use him this arc), that's what I'd call an insult to his character.

[ChronoTwigger]

Maybe you didn't notice, but the last ending shown all the cast.
What you see here is Gohan as Sayaman at ACTUAL age.
So prepare for a surprise.

[dbzfan7]

I think that's the least involvement he's had in an ending. Just a tiny cameo, in the background that's easily miss-able. In the others he was either closer to the front, or had a bit of it feature him doing something. Like in the last ending after Goku and Vegeta, we had Piccolo and Gohan featured together. The ending before that we had Gohan stand right next to Goku and Vegeta instead of in the back. The ending before that we had him again next to Goku and a bit of it with his family. Before that he was also grouped with Goku and Goten. This is like the ultimate metaphor of Gohan being a completely irrelevant background character.

Front and center with Goku and Vegeta.
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Second billing after Goku and Vegeta alongside Piccolo.
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Front with Goku.
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Front with Goku and their family.
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[Kagari]

Poor Piccolo then, he's even further back!

[Beerus-sama]

If Gohan sits this Black threat out for no reason other than he likes being in peace (and that's the best excuse the writers can give for not wanting to use him this arc), that's what I'd call an insult to his character.

But Black isn't a threat to the present timeline, he doesn't even care about it. This event will probably not happen or happen in a different way maybe less dangerous than what happen in F. Trunks timeline since Goku will not be dead and they will already know what happened and when.

I see it this way, if Gohan had to take part of this then it would be when everyone has been defeated and theres no other choice but him standing up.

Also, I don't think that would be his excuse. More like, you have Goku and Vegeta who both can transform into SSJB and for what F. Trunks will tell him, Black isn't as powerful as them, they will be fine, you don't need me.

Edit:
OMG 750 posts! I'm a CRAZY REG NOW!!

[dbzfan7]

You know the title of this thread just fits this picture perfectly. I think the mental image Trunks had of his idol Gohan, just died right there.

[ArchedThunder]

Maybe people should actually wait to see the episode, for all we know Gohan will offer his help.

[Nejishiki]

They were able to give Future Trunks slippers, but they can't spare him fresh pants?

[dbzfan7]

I love the Akira Trolliyama twitter account

Also meanwhile just outside Toei Animation, they finished Gohan's grave .