Is SSJ Blue the most underwhelming transformation in the history of Dragon Ball?

[ekrolo2]

what did his SSJ god look like

There is no official drawings of it out there but an artist drew a rough approximation of what it might have looked like based on the details we know of it:

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[Lord Beerus]

what did his SSJ god look like

There is no official drawings of it out there but an artist drew a rough approximation of what it might have looked like based on the details we know of it:

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Woof. That looks terrible. It looks a weird, freakish fusion of Raditz and Cell Games Kid Gohan. No thanks.

[dragon ball truth]

A hair change and a face change is a transformation? lol, no; usually and always in dbz a transformation is accented especially in saiyans, meaning muscles bulging or some type of change to their aura or eyes; if that amount of hairchange lets you dub that a transformation to you then whatever, but theres one absolute proof that it wasnt a transformation and thats buus statement after he absorbed gohan, "I've powered up a lot this time, and this time i dont have a time limit" a transformation no matter from who always has some kind of time limit, especially a non organic type being; so this couldnt have been a transformation.

[SaiyanGod117]

what did his SSJ god look like

There is no official drawings of it out there but an artist drew a rough approximation of what it might have looked like based on the details we know of it:

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Kinda looks like Number 4 from when he went Super Saiyan in Codename Kids next Door.

[kaioken12]

Well, for my point of view, it was actually of no importance what the transformation looks like or could have looked like... let's say I am quite forgiving there myself. It could be pink recolor... or it could be a powered-up base form... I wouldn't mind.
(Although Future Trunks' new hair color massively triggered my latent OCD )

But for SSJ Blue... I just don't feel the vibes of power from this form.
Maybe the presentation is at fault. Super just tends to handle power levels so inconsistently.
For the moment, it looks like SSJ Blue was already a tad weaker than even a foe without any god ki (Freeza). And now, it really doesn't feel to be at much higher levels than SSJ2 or even the base form, judging from the fights with Future Trunks or in the last arc with Goku vs. Hit.

Maybe it's just this mess that is causing it... I don't know.

But no matter if it was a lasting form or not, no matter if it achieved "anything big" or not and no matter if it was a "calm" or an "enraged" state... every other SSJ form so far - let's even include SSJ4, Gohan, Oozaru and Kaioken - felt like a huge, a vast boost in power. I don't need the earth shaking for SSJ Blue as for SSJ3. I didn't need the earth shaking for Gohan either though. But unlike Gohan or SSJ3, SSJ Blue has not really felt capable to fulfill tasks that the other forms couldn't until now. And I still don't really see it happening. But maybe I will be pleasently surprised.

[Mazingerdestro]

I think Blue is a great transformation. Unfortunately it came at a point that the story demanded enemies to be very strong so we didn't get a "blue kicks someone's ass moment". However, I can't wait for SsjBlue3. The ssj3 hair are the best

[KingKaash]

I never liked SSB. It's release felt rushed. It was like the writers were just trying to throw out transformations to get the attention of viewers because many of us viewers crave new forms. But we crave good new forms. Don't just dole out something new if it's not good. And the OP analysis is correct. It's been underwhelming in terms of power as well. SSB Vegeta who is basically a God can't even hang with Hit. And Goku Black in base took on all of SSB Vegeta's hits and smiled. How can a God form be so weak against other non Gods? And I haven't even mentioned how it's just a recolor.

I watched DBZ much later but I have to imagine that SSJ2 amd Mystic must've been really underwhelming as well. As a Gohan fan, I loved SSJ2 only because Gohan was the first to use it. Otherwise it's kind of lacking but still better than SSB. Mystic has to be the worst. No change at all and I hated that.

SSJ4 was one of the best forms even if GT is hated. Incorporating Great Ape into a human form is the kind of genius stuff I wish DBS had. Not just recolors.

[Esfír Dedragón]

It'd say that it's "Super Saiyan God" being the most underwhelming transformation. Now, had it been a permanent, then maybe it would have been interesting. It's subsequent transformation, SSJB, was just a color change to the Super Saiyan transformation. A change in color could only work a few times until you'd start to get easily bored and disappointed with it. At least SSJ4 was somewhat memorable in its design. I guess sometimes Toriyama needs that extra push in creativity; just look at the Cell saga!

[Cetra]

To me SSJ2 always was the most underwhelming transformation. For young Gohan you notice a difference but for Vegeta not so much and for Goku it is just the two bangs less. Sure, there is a wild aura, sparks and "sharp hair" but tell that a very young person that sees the extreme difference between forms like SSJ and SSJ3 and compares SSJ and SSJ2 then.

[Nguyenkim]

Why I despise GT I love Super Saiyan 4. It is unique as hell and is using the great ape as concept.

Something which is forgotton right now... The tails and apes

So much this.

Totally agreed with this

[KingKaash]

It'd say that it's "Super Saiyan God" being the most underwhelming transformation. Now, had it been a permanent, then maybe it would have been interesting. It's subsequent transformation, SSJB, was just a color change to the Super Saiyan transformation. A change in color could only work a few times until you'd start to get easily bored and disappointed with it. At least SSJ4 was somewhat memorable in its design. I guess sometimes Toriyama needs that extra push in creativity; just look at the Cell saga!

I actually liked SSG but I wish they kept it longer. Then it would've solidified itself as a real transformation and not just a one-hit wonder. I wish Goku and Vegeta still used SSG against Frieza and now against black. The red eyes of SSG design are good and creative and the flame aura is nice too. I don't like that Goku got skinnier though.

I heard there is a cape design of SSG. I've never seen the sketch before. I wonder how that would've looked...

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

Been actually wanting to comment on such a subject.

You can clearly see from my profile pic how I feel about SSB. Though initially, I found SSG to be ridiculous when I first saw it (like a glorified Kaio-ken or something), I found SSB to be equally unnecessary when I first saw it (what was next, purple), and I felt the same way about SSR when I first saw it (ah, pink, not purple), as you all know. But then I got used to all of them and no longer dislike any of them.

Blue is my favorite color in general so SSB grew pretty fast on me. SSB looks really cool to me (feel the same way about it as Herms does). But I will be the first to admit, it's introduced and explained poorly as hell. I mean, at least SS and SSG had a backstory and such and had buildup, but SSB seemed to randomly come out of nowhere (honestly, even more random than SS2 and SS3). Not to mention how the form is gained has a rather vague explanation at first (A "Super Saiyan with the power of a Super Saiyan God" as I remember from the RoF movie).

I mean, with the exception of the original SS transformation, there are cons to the other transformations as well:

SS2: Was awesome and dominant when first seen by Gohan (gained through training), but after a while, it got archived and never used again in serious battle (I mean, Goku only used SS and SS3 after his battle with Vegeta, and Gotenks flat-out skipped that transformation in favor of SS3)

SS3: Was awesome and eye-catching when first seen (also gained through training), but it didn't do much against the main villain in serious battles such as Buu or Beerus, mainly because the form couldn't even be maintained for long. And Vegeta (save for video games) never got it.

Ultimate Gohan: Was dominant when first seen, but quickly became not-so-dominant and, along with Gohan himself, wasn't really seen again. Though I guess it was revived through Goku and Vegeta with their usage of "Saiyan Beyond God" as the video games call it.

SSG: Was okay when first seen (like how people create their own religions and their own gods, the Saiyans created their own God as well), but ended up getting archived for SSB and was never seen again (save for the manga). And Vegeta never got it.

And then we end up with SSB. First the name "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" was honestly too much. Then we get "Super Saiyan Blue" as a name and people stuck with it (I mean hell, SSG was called "Super Saiyan Red" in the manga - nice to know Toriyama went from numbers to colors now - Toriyama keeping it simple as always). I guess the name "Super Saiyan Blue" isn't as bad anymore with the name "Super Saiyan Rosé" in existence (not bashing the transformation this time).

The BoG and RoF movies made the acquisition of SSB very unclear, so we all assumed it was gained through training. And from my eyes, Super seriously failed in explaining how the SSB came to be when it had the ripe opportunity to. I mean, the most we saw of it before the battle with Freeza was its aura emanating from Goku and Vegeta fist-bumping each other (I mean, really? It's like Toriyama and Toei wanted to make SSB's origins unclear as hell on purpose). I even had friends who also kept up with only Super and never saw the movies, and were completely confused as to what SSB was until I explained it to them (mastering the power of SSG/godly ki in base form, then transforming into a SS).

Also, while I like the concept of a transformation not being too invincible and gradually growing in strength over time, SSB is getting dominated by foes way too often, honestly. I'd like to see more dominance from it (you know, aside from one-shotting someone, beating up an already beaten up foe, and some purple jelly being able to use it). While I despised seeing even Goku as a SSB being taken down by a simple ray gun, the fact the Goku was able to lower his power level so low and still be in the transformation just shows how much he's mastered the transformation and how much more efficient it is than SS2 and SS3 (evidenced by him being able to use Kaio-ken in conjunction with it, which was and is still awesome). Iirc, Goku was able to extend his time in SS from 5 minutes [according to Freeza] to 10 days, and still maintained it even with not much energy left. Obviously, Goku and Vegeta still have a ways to go in terms of mastery of godly ki, however.

(Not to mention, I get really frustrated when I see a green tint in the transformation's hair color at times in Super, since it's clearly supposed to be blue - and no other color)

I guess that SSG was created to be a stepping stone to the much more used SSB transformation, but it still doesn't help much in terms of explanation. Overall, while I like the transformation, I will concur that it's not introduced nor explained well at all. But it's here to stay regardless.

[buutenks]

I dont think it is underwhelming. It might appear now, due to being the most powerful transformation for 3 arcs in a row. Something which only happened in GT. But when it first came out, i really enjoyed it and it made a difference vs Golden Freeza. Were it not for that form, they would have been killed for good.

As for ssg. I think that it was a good choice to leave it to Goku and never show it again. It makes it unique.

Ofc, that blue aura, pure epicness, really love it, same for ssj rose.

[GeeRod]

I don't think is underwhelming. For me is a breath of fresh air to the whole ''OHMYGODRAGEZTRANSFORMATION''. I like that you need to be able to control your ki to reach this form.

[Anime Kitten]

I don't think is underwhelming. For me is a breath of fresh air to the whole ''OHMYGODRAGEZTRANSFORMATION''. I like that you need to be able to control your ki to reach this form.

YES! Thank you; this is exactly what I was saying earlier.

[kinisking]

I never liked SSB. It's release felt rushed. It was like the writers were just trying to throw out transformations to get the attention of viewers because many of us viewers crave new forms. But we crave good new forms. Don't just dole out something new if it's not good. And the OP analysis is correct. It's been underwhelming in terms of power as well. SSB Vegeta who is basically a God can't even hang with Hit. And Goku Black in base took on all of SSB Vegeta's hits and smiled. How can a God form be so weak against other non Gods? And I haven't even mentioned how it's just a recolor.

I watched DBZ much later but I have to imagine that SSJ2 amd Mystic must've been really underwhelming as well. As a Gohan fan, I loved SSJ2 only because Gohan was the first to use it. Otherwise it's kind of lacking but still better than SSB. Mystic has to be the worst. No change at all and I hated that.

SSJ4 was one of the best forms even if GT is hated. Incorporating Great Ape into a human form is the kind of genius stuff I wish DBS had. Not just recolors.

I agree about ssb and ss4. However, I love ssj2 and mystic. Ssj2 isn't a huge change from ss1, but it's basically a better looking version of it. Imo everyone's ssj2 look is their best look besides for Gohan. I like the way his baseform looks so mystic looked great imo.

[buutenks]

I always liked the ssj1 hair design on Goku. So making ssgss with that hair style and adding a awesome blue aura on top looks really nice. Also, the ssj blue aura looks magical, compared to the more plain ssj forms auras.

[SaiyanZ]

I'd say Slugg's transformation into a giant was the most underwhelming. Among Saiyan transformations though, I think Blue is the most underwhelming, SSJ God's wasn't exactly my favorite either. It doesn't help that Blue doesn't look good to me either.