Could the Dragon Ball Super anime be ending soon?

[Lujin_16]

So introducing an character like Daishinkan who is stronger than Whis was for nothing?? Come on guys it will be much more episodes otherwise they would never introduce him and

characters like Hit,Cabba,Champa,Vados they are fresh for something new... There is so much build up for the future and some really think it will end soon??? that's crazy..

[Saikyo no Senshi]

I hope it does. If not end at least take a long break then come back with a proper schedule and lots of pre-planning. The manga can go on ahead so that when the anime resumes it has a source material to adapt and by doing that we won't get anime exclusive nonsense like Vegeta 10%, Gohan bait and the retarded Gokuu moments from some of the writers. It would be a lot more like the original series.

But that's something I want, knowing Toei's reputation full well I am sure it will go on until toys stop selling. From a business standpoint Toei and all parties involved shouldn't stop.

- Travis

[Ki Breaker]

I hope it does. If not end at least take a long break then come back with a proper schedule and lots of pre-planning. The manga can go on ahead so that when the anime resumes it has a source material to adapt and by doing that we won't get anime exclusive nonsense like Vegeta 10%, Gohan bait and the retarded Gokuu moments from some of the writers. It would be a lot more like the original series.

But that's something I want, knowing Toei's reputation full well I am sure it will go on until toys stop selling. From a business standpoint Toei and all parties involved shouldn't stop.

- Travis

Correct me if i am wrong but didn't toriayama stop himself after buu arc because he was exhausted and didn't want to continue further, not because dbz became less popular or toys stopped selling..

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I hope it does. If not end at least take a long break then come back with a proper schedule and lots of pre-planning. The manga can go on ahead so that when the anime resumes it has a source material to adapt and by doing that we won't get anime exclusive nonsense like Vegeta 10%, Gohan bait and the retarded Gokuu moments from some of the writers. It would be a lot more like the original series.

But that's something I want, knowing Toei's reputation full well I am sure it will go on until toys stop selling. From a business standpoint Toei and all parties involved shouldn't stop.

- Travis

Correct me if i am wrong but didn't toriayama stop himself after buu arc because he was exhausted and didn't want to continue further, not because dbz became less popular or toys stopped selling..

You're right, but popularity had also been declining for a while.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Correct me if i am wrong but didn't toriayama stop himself after buu arc because he was exhausted and didn't want to continue further, not because dbz became less popular or toys stopped selling..

Yes, you are right. Not only was he exhausted and burnt out he had no ideas left of how to come up with stronger villains or make Gokuu anymore stronger than he already was. I remember he said that in an interview.

- Travis

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Honestly, I do want the series to end. Not because I don't love the new content, but because I only have so much spending money that I can justify spending on Dragon Ball.

[Nejishiki]

We know the show won't end until we get the universal tournament arc, but I truly want an arc with a time skip. I want to see Trunks and Goten as teenagers or perhaps older. I also want to see an older Pan take up Goku's mantle in being the strongest character, and wanting to carrying on that name. (Effectively taking Goku's place.) That would be a perfect ending to the show.

We don't really know that. There's no reason to trust Dragon Ball Super will end with a tournament, or that it'll even feature one at all. I understand it was mentioned in passing, but it's dangerous to set up unconfirmed expectations, especially when nothing official has promised that arc. We didn't even explore every passing detail in the original Dragon Ball series!

[PsionicWarrior]

Honestly, despite all the problems Super has I wish it to continue, but I want to see improvement. There has been improvements already, most screens of the Black arc look fantastic and is allegedly the best arc of Super as a whole, basically if they could improve even more the fighting scenes (not so much are really good, others are cringeworthy, a few are top), and rework a bit the approach of some characters the show could free more of its potential.

If the show starts to loose in quality then it would be better to stop, but as of now, there is not so much to correct (given we ignore the levels lol), only a bit of good will from Toei is required and the ratings will explode lol

[TheMikado]

Correct me if i am wrong but didn't toriayama stop himself after buu arc because he was exhausted and didn't want to continue further, not because dbz became less popular or toys stopped selling..

Yes, you are right. Not only was he exhausted and burnt out he had no ideas left of how to come up with stronger villains or make Gokuu anymore stronger than he already was. I remember he said that in an interview.

- Travis

This is what I was getting at earlier.

[Heliocentrizzle]

We will have 84 episodes, at least.
Each box set has 12 episodes and one DB on the cover. Going by the pattern 12*7=84

Speaking of which, the fourth set comes out today.

I wouldn't mind if Super ended next year, but only if we had a sequel confirmed that takes place after EOZ and still with Toriyama involvement.

I doubt that a sequel after EOZ would make a difference in quality/ feel. As long as they'd keep Yamamuro in charge anyway.
I'd rather settle for Super overwriting what happened at the end of Z, then basically overwriting the GT chronology, with someone else taking Yamamuro's place. I'm sure that'd capture a lot of old fans' attention.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Correct me if i am wrong but didn't toriayama stop himself after buu arc because he was exhausted and didn't want to continue further, not because dbz became less popular or toys stopped selling..

Yes, you are right. Not only was he exhausted and burnt out he had no ideas left of how to come up with stronger villains or make Gokuu anymore stronger than he already was. I remember he said that in an interview.

- Travis

This is what I was getting at earlier.

This still does not support your argument of Toriyama not being competent in making more than 4/5 story arcs when he has desmostrated that he´s capable of during the manga serialization.

[omaro34]

With the boxsets for the show going up to 72 episodes, at least thus far, and the new Ending song coming in, do you think it's possible that Super may end after the next arc? We obviously don't know, as there's been no official word whether it will end after 72 episodes or not, but I want to know your thoughts on the matter. Is it a possibility? How likely is it?

I also should mention that we have about 11 episodes until then, and if you factor in breaks, that could amount to 14-16 weeks left.

Mark me, this show will not end until Toriyama runs out of ideas, the main VA's start dying off, or Japanese kids stop caring about the toys. Only in one of these scenarios will DBS be cancelled. Even if Toriyama jumped ship or died tomorrow, they probably have enough momentum to keep this ship afloat.

You have soloed this thread.

You guys think Toei and Bandai who both have wanted a new db series for YEARS are gonna end it any time soon?

There is legit not even a limit to the amount of arcs toei can make simply from the 12 universes concept. The anime Toriko which was doing terrible in merchandise sales lasted for 147 episodes before toei decided to end it.
You think Super which its merchandise sales are right behinds One Pieces is gonna end any time soon.

Here is 5 arcs I came up within a few mintues.

1. Namek god arc
2. Planet Salad arc
3. the x god of 9 x gods arc
4. Demon God x arc
5. Ultra planet x arc

Please don't tease me with the Namek God Arc stuff.

As for Super's duration, I think it can easily go over 100 episodes no problem. Given how much in-universe concepts they introduced, they can take this for as long as they want to.

[TheMikado]

Yes, you are right. Not only was he exhausted and burnt out he had no ideas left of how to come up with stronger villains or make Gokuu anymore stronger than he already was. I remember he said that in an interview.

- Travis

This is what I was getting at earlier.

This still does not support your argument of Toriyama not being competent in making more than 4/5 story arcs when he has desmostrated that he´s capable of during the manga serialization.

What are you talking about? Toriyama says all the time how he gets tired of writing certain stories and wants to quit. That's how we got Dragonball in the first place, he wanted to quit Dr. Slump, then he completely transforms his fantasy/adventure manga into a sci-fi shonen. His style has been to want to end the theme and trajectory of his works after a few arcs. That's just how his works are. Your argument is that Dragonball is one complete series when the reality is that there is a substantial and marked difference in the genre of the series which basically changes it into a completely new/different series. And further, we have never seen him pump out anime storylines at the pacing required to maintain Supers pacing. The burden isn't on me to prove that he can't, the burden is on you to prove he can do something he's never done before. Write/outline an indefinitely running anime series.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

What are you talking about? Toriyama says all the time how he gets tired of writing certain stories and wants to quit. That's how we got Dragonball in the first place, he wanted to quit Dr. Slump, then he completely transforms his fantasy/adventure manga into a sci-fi shonen. His style has been to want to end the theme and trajectory of his works after a few arcs. That's just how his works are. Your argument is that Dragonball is one complete series when the reality is that there is a substantial and marked difference in the genre of the series which basically changes it into a completely new/different series. And further, we have never seen him pump out anime storylines at the pacing required to maintain Supers pacing. The burden isn't on me to prove that he can't, the burden is on you to prove he can do something he's never done before. Write/outline an indefinitely running anime series.

1. That´s not true, Toriyama has writen the same series for over 10 years non-stop, tonal/thematic shift doesn´t change the fact that it´s the same series (with the same characters, the same mcguffins, the same tropes, with the same name, etc) nor changes the fact that he has been writing a weekly story non-stop for over 10 years.

2. Toriyama has writen the Dragon Ball story for over 10 years as I said above, he can keep up writing for DBSuper for the same 10 years if he wants + currently Toriyama himself is not responsible for writing every episode of the anime detail by detail, meaning the chances of him burning out are drastically reduced.

You are in denial if you say that Dragon Ball is divided in two series and is not a singel complete series.

[Zephyr]

then he completely transforms his fantasy/adventure manga into a sci-fi shonen. His style has been to want to end the theme and trajectory of his works after a few arcs. That's just how his works are. Your argument is that Dragonball is one complete series when the reality is that there is a substantial and marked difference in the genre of the series which basically changes it into a completely new/different series.

The series has always been a shonen-targeted manga containing fantasy, adventure, and sci-fi elements. The series' genre has always been wuxia.

The reality is that from Pilaf to Majin Buu, there is one series, one story being told, which gradually shifts in tone and action-packed-ness.

Super is a distinctly different kind of work from those old ones, in that he's not drawing it. There's less activity for him to do, so there's less stuff for him to get burnt out on.

[TheMikado]

Ok look you guys win, Toriyama has written Dragonball series content for years straight without breaks or getting tired of the series so it clear that that directly translates into him being freed up to continuously write for an ongoing anime series of Dragonball material. It clear there's nothing Toriyama can't do.

[Zephyr]

It clear there's nothing Toriyama can't do.

That's not what we're saying at all.

All we're saying is that looking to the original 10 story arc run of the series for evidence to back the claim "Toriyama needs a miracle to last for more than 5 story arcs" is actively hurting your case, especially when less work is required of him now.

Obviously anything could happen to make him stop, who knows.

[HybridSaiyan]

Let this horror end! I can't stand anymore ooc Goku and mediocre fight scenes.

[TheMikado]

It clear there's nothing Toriyama can't do.

That's not what we're saying at all.

All we're saying is that looking to the original 10 story arc run of the series for evidence to back the claim "Toriyama needs a miracle to last for more than 5 story arcs" is actively hurting your case, especially when less work is required of him now.

Obviously anything could happen to make him stop, who knows.

It was never a question of work for me though. Toriyama just tends to get bored/run out of ideas of completely switch it up after a while. That's just how he is as a story teller. When he talks about stopping things it's often because he says he's run out of ideas, not that he can't go farther. In my opinion, anything more than 5 major arcs for a series would be a miracle because that's not his style of storytelling. Even with Dragonball , there were only a few major overall arcs/sagas whatever you want to call them before he changed things. I'm not saying it's impossible but no one is an unlimited faucet of creativity especially when he's admitted to running out of ideas a few times before.

[Lord Beerus]

*Checks recent merchandise sales report*

Nope. Super ain't ending anytime soon. I see this show lasting at least 100 episodes.