The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by precita » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:48 pm

Shouldn't Goku be able to defeat Hit easily at this point? Goku was pretty much a match for him in the tournament, and now this is after his training in the time chamber and fights against Zamasu.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:49 pm

precita wrote:Shouldn't Goku be able to defeat Hit easily at this point? Goku was pretty much a match for him in the tournament, and now this is after his training in the time chamber and fights against Zamasu.
Hit's power level was already behind Blue Goku's anyway but with his timeskip he was able to fight on par with him when he used the Kaioken x10 and I don't think even Black at his strongest would have been able to do that.

If he'd continued to increase the lenght of his timeskip then combined with his as yet unseen killing techniques then I wouldn't think it'd be unlikely for Hit to be able to beat him.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by DragonHermit » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:54 pm

precita wrote:Shouldn't Goku be able to defeat Hit easily at this point? Goku was pretty much a match for him in the tournament, and now this is after his training in the time chamber and fights against Zamasu.
Hit didn't use his assassination techniques, which are his forte.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:55 pm

precita wrote:Shouldn't Goku be able to defeat Hit easily at this point? Goku was pretty much a match for him in the tournament, and now this is after his training in the time chamber and fights against Zamasu.
Maybe Hit will kills Goku off guard. Like what if Hit kills Goku in his sleep?
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Big Black Sayian » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:49 am

precita wrote:Shouldn't Goku be able to defeat Hit easily at this point? Goku was pretty much a match for him in the tournament, and now this is after his training in the time chamber and fights against Zamasu.
Maybe Hit has been doing some training too.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:35 pm

We got hints of all arcs (and clear hints) weeks and weeks before the real beginning. If any hints so far, those listed are titles of mini-arcs (call them "filler" if you like).
An ENTIRE arc with Hit? Mmmmmno.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by DainIronfoot » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:55 pm

DragonHermit wrote:Unless this is a gag episode, I think this is for real. The backstory of this would be too long and complex, for it to be a filler arc.

I am 100% sure, the U12 time traveller has something to do with this.

Why do I keep seeing this? What u12 time traveller? Did I really forget something in these past 2 arcs or was this stated somewhere else...?

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by batistabus » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:10 pm

DainIronfoot wrote:
DragonHermit wrote:Unless this is a gag episode, I think this is for real. The backstory of this would be too long and complex, for it to be a filler arc.

I am 100% sure, the U12 time traveller has something to do with this.

Why do I keep seeing this? What u12 time traveller? Did I really forget something in these past 2 arcs or was this stated somewhere else...?
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Alee9977 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:26 pm

IDK if it is canon or filler but I'm glad that we'll see Vados again

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Basako » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:29 pm

I think it will be filler. Toriyama is going to rescue Hit again for sure, at least for the 12 universe tournament, so let's see what do they do with the character. I think it's gonna be something like Tenshinhan and Chaoz with that wildboar with wings filler episode of Dragon Ball. On the other hand, if they resurrect North Kaio, that couldn't be non canon, that's something major. We'll see.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Boo Machine » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:30 pm

Until we get told otherwise, Not only do I believe this is a filler episode, it's probably a gag filler episode.

Like maybe, 'Hit must kill Goku....IN A PIE EATING CONTEST!"

I do hope I'm wrong though, An arc about Hit, filler or not, sounds pretty neat.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by dragon boss z » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:54 pm

precita wrote:Does it really matter in Super what's "canon?" Every episode is canon.
This isn't true. Every episode is canon to the Super anime, but the Super anime isn't canon at all to the original dragon ball manga.
Dragon ball doesn't have one true canon, but the Super anime seems to be following the dragon ball kai continuity.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by dragonballhero » Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:06 pm

Oh, GOD, PLEASE let this "Hit arc" be canon. Personally, I find the idea of the "Ultimate Assassin" hunting down Goku of all people, to be very interesting. I mean, now that there's no "tournament rules" holding him back, Hit can safely go all out and use his supposedly "deadly" techniques against Goku like Goku had asked him to do. Not to mention, if Hit were to successfully kill Goku, there's still the mystery of just WHO put a "Hit" out on Goku. (*Puts sunglasses on* :lol: All right, I'll stop now. :oops: )

Also, I REALLY hope that if Hit were to go all-out against Goku, he would pull out ALL the stops in order to incapacitate ALL of his family members and friends, so that no one can interfere with his job, and we all know that Goku's got a LOAD of backup on his side, so Hit would need to be UNBELIEVABLY thorough in dealing with everyone who Goku has as a contact for backup.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Lujin_16 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:22 pm

the cover with Goku and Hit looks really serious i don't think it is a filler

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Sonicjamareiz » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:02 pm

Did the Potaufeu arc get any promotional art?
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by SaiyanGirl » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:10 pm

Sonicjamareiz wrote:Did the Potaufeu arc get any promotional art?
No. At least I can't remember.
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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Bullza » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:41 pm

So do we have an answer to this yet? I've been away on holiday so haven't paid attention to what's said. Just watched the preview for the next episode and it really does look like Goku dies and I can't see why that would be filler but parts of the episode seemed fillerish.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Grimlock » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:49 pm

It's filler. I thought Hit saga would be the one appearing in the Jump Festa as written by Toriyama but now we have our confirmation that is part of Toei's thing.

I just remembered now that Toriyama said after Future Trunks saga, a promise will be fulfilled. Doesn't seem to be related to Hit, though.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Neon Z » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:56 pm

Bullza wrote:So do we have an answer to this yet? I've been away on holiday so haven't paid attention to what's said. Just watched the preview for the next episode and it really does look like Goku dies and I can't see why that would be filler but parts of the episode seemed fillerish.
There has been no Toriyama comment or credit to him about the upcoming Hit arc, and there's also the still upcoming announcement next week. So, this is almost certainly filler. The preview also showed several new characters, so the lack of Toriyama artwork stands out even more.

It does seem to be more ambitious than previous filler arcs though.

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Re: The upcoming Hit arc: Canon or Filler?

Post by Beyond » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:59 pm

If Goten and Gohan are in it for more than 5 seconds, It's filler for sure

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