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Post by Zackarotto » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:19 am

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The only way out is seppuku. Hurry!

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Post by Dayspring » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:25 am

Megatron as a gun would join with little animal larvamabob form, Megatron as a decepticon would join with Imperfect, Galvatron as a canon would join with semi-perfect Cell, and Galvatron as decepticon would join would perfect Cell. Question: Which form of Boo would Unicron join with?

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Post by PsyLiam » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:29 am

Noooo! Everyone will realise that G1 was actually a bit rubbish, and the Transformer resurgence will end.

Skinny Buu should join with Unicron, since they both have a habit of eating their enemies, who then conduct Ultimate Climatic Fights while inside them.

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Post by Jerseymilk » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:31 am

Really Dayspring?! When did you hear that?! I'm sooooo happy!
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Post by PsyLiam » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:38 am

Go and buy the G1 DVD boxsets. Or, better yet, go and pick up the Target: 2006 trade-paperback. Or Matrix Quest. Or Dinobot Hunt. Or All Fall Down.

Go on.

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Post by Jerseymilk » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:43 am

Oh trust me, it's on my "To Buy" List, along with the 75 other things on it. *sigh* :(
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Post by SpiritBomb » Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:25 am

Great! I thought i was just stating that the creators of Zelda didint make the confusion of time travelling bother with their game! They almost ignored it!

Yes, Zack, there is an important message here. People, if your making a story of some sort and gonna put time travel in it,dont confuse us! Or, better yet, stay as far from it as possible!
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Post by Neon Z » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:59 pm

But Link changes things in the past timeline that affect the future timeline, such as when he floods the well, lays those seeds that grow into plants, and some stuff at the Spirit Temple that I can't remember. If the new timeline was created and became seperate, then the things he was doing in the past would have no affect on the future one.
My explanation was too rushed. The time travels happen normaly, but both timelines are separated later by Zelda, when she closes the "door between times". After that, if the past is changed, the future won't be modified.
It should also be noted that Link's adventures became well known, perhaps implying that the future timeline stuff DID happen, and everyone started telling stories about Link. Except that whenever the "Hero Of Time" is heard about or seen in Wind Waker, he is a boy, not a young adult. Which means that maybe young Link is the famous one.
False. Adult Link is the one with the statue. The heroes clothes have the white pants that Adult Link wore. In the intro, he's showing riding Epona, and only Adult Link did that. Let's not forget the "Hero Shield", which is a metalic, not a wooden.

Also, MM intro states that Link's adventure in OOT became a tale passed down by the royal family, so, even in the past, (some) people knew about him.

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Post by B-kun » Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:12 pm

Neon Z wrote:
Well... It seems that the new Four Swords explains what happens to Ganon in the child's timeline.

What would that be? I don't know anyone with a GBA and their own copy of the game, so I can't play Four Swords. :(

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Post by Neon Z » Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:41 pm

I mean GC's Four Sword, not the gba one. What happens?
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Ganon got the Triforce of Power and simply dissapeared. After a while, Vaati, the wind mage, appears and begins to kidnap oracles. Lots of things happens, but no ones has translated these yet. Link saves Zelda and the oracles and defeats Vaati, then Ganon says that he was a useless puppet and appears out of nowhere. Link defeats Ganon with the Four Sword. Oh, and Ganon's trident is "special".

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Post by PsyLiam » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:52 pm

Neon Z wrote:False. Adult Link is the one with the statue. The heroes clothes have the white pants that Adult Link wore. In the intro, he's showing riding Epona, and only Adult Link did that. Let's not forget the "Hero Shield", which is a metalic, not a wooden.

Also, MM intro states that Link's adventure in OOT became a tale passed down by the royal family, so, even in the past, (some) people knew about him.
But the costume is also different from adult Link's costume in other ways (such as the long sleaves). They might have just added the white tights because the kids were sick of getting cold legs.

And young Link did ride Epona in "Majora's Mask". Didn't he also use a metallic shield in that?

I always thought the idea behind the young children dressing up like Link on their tenth birthdays was because that was how old the Hero Of Time was when he did his heroics.

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Post by B-kun » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:56 pm

PsyLiam wrote:
Neon Z wrote:False. Adult Link is the one with the statue. The heroes clothes have the white pants that Adult Link wore. In the intro, he's showing riding Epona, and only Adult Link did that. Let's not forget the "Hero Shield", which is a metalic, not a wooden.

Also, MM intro states that Link's adventure in OOT became a tale passed down by the royal family, so, even in the past, (some) people knew about him.
But the costume is also different from adult Link's costume in other ways (such as the long sleaves). They might have just added the white tights because the kids were sick of getting cold legs.

And young Link did ride Epona in "Majora's Mask". Didn't he also use a metallic shield in that?

I always thought the idea behind the young children dressing up like Link on their tenth birthdays was because that was how old the Hero Of Time was when he did his heroics.
Yeah, Link uses a Hero's Sheild in the game, which is metallic. I guess he realised that the Kokiri Sheild is worth shit.

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Post by Neon Z » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:37 pm

But Link, in Majora's mask, isn't the Hero of Time anymore. The intro states that he had already fulfilled his heroic destiny. So, the metallic shield and Epona can't come from MM.

And about the white tights... someone in Wind Waker mentions that those clothes are too hot for that place. So, I guess that the tights are supposed to be there because of the hero of time, not because they prefer it that way.

And, about the children receiving their clothes when they're twelve(or ten, I've already seem both ages stated by Nintendo, and even 8, although only once) years old... That's the age that the hero of time began his adventure. In fact, mentally, he was always twelve years old. Those are the reasons that they give hero's clothes to children of that age. But that's the only reference to kid Link, everything else is about the teenager/adult one.

EDIT: Shouldn't we stop talking about Zelda in a Dragon Ball board?

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Post by Zackarotto » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:51 pm

Maybe, but Zelda rules.

You know what was awesome? The Ocarina of Time manga. Seriously! Link raised a baby Volvaga, and had to go through the pain of killing him? Shiek and Link duke it out in the Gerudo Fortress? Awesome!

I don't think there was any time travelling... If there was, I think it was one way. In other words, he goes forward in time, but he never comes back, and it never shows the time he came from again.

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Post by Jerseymilk » Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:03 am

You guys are going to get sooo busted for being "off-topic" by EX. Do you all realize that you've used up practically a whole page talking about Link? :D
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Post by SpiritBomb » Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:36 am

Jerseymilk wrote:You guys are going to get sooo busted for being "off-topic" by EX. Do you all realize that you've used up practically a whole page talking about Link? :D
I just brought it up that it was more SIMPLE then DBZ! I had absolutely NO idea that these people would use up a page debating on time travel in Zelda!

Jerseymilk, I now understand why Time Travel topics are HORRIBLE! I'm leaving! And NEVER coming back....to this topic, that is...I just dont wanna get banned by EX...
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Post by B-kun » Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:43 am

SpiritBomb wrote:
Jerseymilk wrote:You guys are going to get sooo busted for being "off-topic" by EX. Do you all realize that you've used up practically a whole page talking about Link? :D
I just brought it up that it was more SIMPLE then DBZ! I had absolutely NO idea that these people would use up a page debating on time travel in Zelda!

Jerseymilk, I now understand why Time Travel topics are HORRIBLE! I'm leaving! And NEVER coming back....to this topic, that is...I just dont wanna get banned by EX...
C'mon, I like talking about Zelda.. And you bastards have made me want to play TOoT all over again. :evil:

But maybe we should tone it down. ;;;

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Post by SpiritBomb » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:11 am

I said I wouldint be back here and here I am! I just wanted to clarify to you, B-Kun, that I have nothing against Zelda at all! I'm in LOVE with it,infact, but I'm oddly scared of being banned so I just think we should tone it down as you said.

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Post by B-kun » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:15 am

SpiritBomb wrote:I said I wouldint be back here and here I am! I just wanted to clarify to you, B-Kun, that I have nothing against Zelda at all! I'm in LOVE with it,infact, but I'm oddly scared of being banned so I just think we should tone it down as you said.

DBZ ROCKS! (like I said, I'm scared of being banned)
Well, VegEX isn't a banning maniac like other board owners. He'll give you several good warnings and then a threat to stop before he bans.

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Post by Xyex » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:48 am

Technically that last page wasn't off topic since the thread is about Time Travel :wink:

And now I'm sad. Reading all that makes me want to play OoT again too but I don't have my N64 anymore :cry:
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