Does 'Super' have too much fanservice for the sake of it?

[MaskedRider]

How is Vegito's return in any way fan service? It is a logical conclusion to make based off their opponent and the resources they have at the time. If they didn't you would have people complaining that they didn't entertain the idea to ask Supreme Kai to lend them his earrings.

[MajinMan]

Super does not have too much fanservice. It has quite a bit, but it isn't overdoing it. The main big fanservice points I can think of are:

- The Pilaf Gang returning
- Freeza returning with a new form
- New Saiyans and Freeza race (debatable)
- Future Trunks returning and getting super strong
- Evil Goku (handled really well)
- Girl Broly (worst offender, especially after the not-so-subtle "references" to the original Broly)

Those are the main points you can call blatant fanservice with no real point or reason behind them. The reason I excluded Caulifla and Freeza's 2nd return is because they make sense in the story. You can argue that Freeza coming back is terrible fanservice, but I think it makes perfect sense in universe to want a guy as strong as him in a "win or blow up" tournament. It also validates Resurrection F and makes it more important in the overall story. And I do not see a problem with a female Saiyan.

[precita]

You could say things like Yamcha's baseball episode was fanservice, the entire episode was made for Yamcha's meme's on the internet.

[PsionicWarrior]

I wouldn't say it is ALL fanservice. I think there is a lot of it though, with many already mentioned, I also consider all the cameos as fan-service too, and usually good one.

[Lujin_16]

Future Trunks & C-17 is not fanservice it was obviously that they come back one day

To me the only fan service was Kale,Frieza & Vegetto and i don't think Black Goku was a fanservice he is much different than a fanservice would be like a
Majin Vegeta copy....I feel like people are overracting here they have introduced 95 % new characters who doesn't look like fanservice

[WittyUsername]

How is Vegito's return in any way fan service? It is a logical conclusion to make based off their opponent and the resources they have at the time. If they didn't you would have people complaining that they didn't entertain the idea to ask Supreme Kai to lend them his earrings.

He didn't add anything to the story. He could've been absent from the arc entirely, and nothing of value would've been lost.

[PsionicWarrior]

Ofc Vegito, FTrunks and 17 are all fanservice, Gohan coming back on board is also fan service. All the old crew getting back for top is fanservice. Etc. I don't see it as a bad thing, I'm on the contrary quite happy of it. I don't feel it's done just for the sake of it either, since stories are built around. Zamasu arc was very well received by most despite pl mess, 17 got char development, Vegito had a 5mns appearance with the best fighting scene of the whole arc, Gohan feels his Saiyaijin blood's boiling, and the other weaklings get a chance to contribute with tactics and strategy over brute force. I don't get the complaint.

[precita]

Future Trunks & C-17 is not fanservice it was obviously that they come back one day

Really? Nobody ever thought Future Trunks would come back ever again. He didn't back in DBZ and there was no reason to ever expect to see him again.

While 17 getting a comeback wasn't as unlikely, given how he's been excluded from the series for all this time, the entire Buu saga, all of Super till now, and all the specials, made it seem like fanservice as well.

[MagmonKai]

IF Yamcha ends up in the ToP, then yes it would be way too much fan-service for my tastes.

[SaiyanGod117]

IF Yamcha ends up in the ToP, then yes it would be way too much fan-service for my tastes.

Sometimes it feels like Toei let's the fan dictate the story, like they have consultants or something to see what's the most popular subject or buzz ( Girl Super Saiyans or Yamcha getting sidelined or Humans being relevant again) among the Dragon Ball fandom, then insert that into the story.

[lancerman]

Future Trunks & C-17 is not fanservice it was obviously that they come back one day

Really? Nobody ever thought Future Trunks would come back ever again. He didn't back in DBZ and there was no reason to ever expect to see him again.

While 17 getting a comeback wasn't as unlikely, given how he's been excluded from the series for all this time, the entire Buu saga, all of Super till now, and all the specials, made it seem like fanservice as well.

There was exactly one arc in Z after the arc he debuted in and that arc featured his younger self having a significant role and ended with him growing up into that same version we saw in the Android arc.

The story ended just under 2 years after the Android arc closed and Future Trunks himself was in about 2 years worth of story.

[precita]

Over the last 20 years nobody ever expected Future Trunks to return. That's why when he was first shown (besides his new blue hair) people were shocked. It was definitely not anything anyone expected to happen.

[MagmonKai]

IF Yamcha ends up in the ToP, then yes it would be way too much fan-service for my tastes.

Sometimes it feels like Toei let's the fan dictate the story, like they have consultants or something to see what's the most popular subject or buzz ( Girl Super Saiyans or Yamcha getting sidelined or Humans being relevant again) among the Dragon Ball fandom, then insert that into the story.

I have seriously wondered if they have people doing focus group testing on us fans. Because I find it so odd our gripes, questions, concerns, etc get addressed in universe a lot of the times!

[lancerman]

Over the last 20 years nobody ever expected Future Trunks to return. That's why when he was first shown (besides his new blue hair) people were shocked. It was definitely not anything anyone expected to happen.

Yeah because the series ended.

It's not like it was an out of the question thing. Put it this way:

-Android arc: future trunks
-Boo saga: The arc right after, a younger generation was introduced including a younger Trunks. Saga ends with a flash forward where we get Trunks at about the same age.
-Battle of the Gods movie (later adapted into the tv show)
-Ressurection (later adapted into the tv show).
-U6 Tournament
-Trunks/Goku Black arc.

In the grandscheme of things Future Trunks missed the Boo Saga, the U6 tournament mini arc and two movies. Oh and one of the arcs he missed featured an almost identically looking alternate version of him.

It was more shocking because the series ended and the opportunity never presented itself. And all of GT featured an older Trunks who looked identical in a prominent role. So it didn't really make sense there.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

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I have seriously wondered if they have people doing focus group testing on us fans. Because I find it so odd our gripes, questions, concerns, etc get addressed in universe a lot of the times!

Or their people in charge are competent and are aware of what concerns and questions the audience might have at certain points in the story.

[SaiyanGod117]

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I have seriously wondered if they have people doing focus group testing on us fans. Because I find it so odd our gripes, questions, concerns, etc get addressed in universe a lot of the times!

Or their people in charge are competent and are aware of what concerns and questions the audience might have at certain points in the story.

So pandering to fans, ok than. We were right all along.

[GodKaio-Ken]

How is Vegito's return in any way fan service? It is a logical conclusion to make based off their opponent and the resources they have at the time. If they didn't you would have people complaining that they didn't entertain the idea to ask Supreme Kai to lend them his earrings.

He didn't add anything to the story. He could've been absent from the arc entirely, and nothing of value would've been lost.

Disagreed. He was introduced for two reasons:

1) Its logical from a story perspective.

2) To create a reason that he cant be used for any sticky situation. The new Potara rules were important to the story going forward.