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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:49 am

There are many, but Vegito is the one that annoys me the most. It's so bad I pronounce it "Ve-gai-toe" instead of "Ve-gee-toe".
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Ripper 30 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:09 am

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Ripper 30 wrote:Many Dub changes by FUNimation really bother me specially when watching Super with Official Subs, I mean what's the point of Subtitles when all they are doing is appealing to Dub fans?

"Freeza" changed to "Frieza" is unnecessary
"Tenshinhan" being changed to "Tien Shinhan" was really stupid
"Artificial Human" being changed to "Android" was actually because of Latin American dub but still in my opinion "Cyborg" was the better word
"Kame Sennin" being changed to "Master Roshi" was a mistranslation as his real name was never mentioned in the series
"Kaiō-Sama" being changed to "King Kai"
"Kaiōshin" Being changed to "Supreme Kai"
I don't know about FUNimation's Obsession with word "Kai"
"Toma" being changed to "Tora"
There are many other annoying dub terms
"Bra" being changed to "Bulla"
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Edit: Read it better and I'm not pleased. I dont like that you blame the Latin American dub (At first I thought you liked it but read again) I think Android was a general thing for Toei and not any dubs fault in particular.
I wasn't really Blaming Latino Dub but just telling from Where that Term "Android" came from but still "Cyborg" is better term and I think some Dubs used that term too
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Quantum-Kakarrotto » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:44 pm

I'm kinda surprised no one mentioned "Kayo-Ken", I know Funimation uses Kaio-Ken now in Kai and the video games but it still annoys me every time I hear it pronounced wrong. There's also "Kamayamaya", the way "Videl" is pronounced, "King Yamma" (In DBZ and in Yu Yu Hakusho) I understand why they changed "Bra" to "Bulla" considering how strict some TV Networks had censorship in the early 2000s and I hope they changed it back to "Bra" in Kai and Super.

"Frieza" meh doesn't really irk me that much compared to Funimation actually using the name "Makankosappo" in Kai but then suddenly changing it back to "Special Beam Cannon" in the Cell Games, I heard they were in a rush by Toei during that time, but you could have kept the name for consistency.

Then there's also Kami as "Guardian" and not as "God" even though Kami literally means God. Also, don't know why they called Instantaneous Movement "Instant Transmission" when they could have just used the word "Teleport" like the Viz Manga did.

Well, that's all I have so far.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Robo4900 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:16 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I mean, I'd say if Toriyama intended her name to be a pun on a word, you should probably call her that and not the word itself. "Bloomer" and "Bloomers" particularly irritate me just because they miss the point entirely, though "Bluma" doesn't bug me as much, probably because it still preserves the pun (albeit in a slightly different manner than "Bulma").
In Japanese, her name is ブルマ, which you can write in English lettering as "Bu-lu-ma" or "Bu-ru-ma", which is how you transliterate "Bloomers" into Japanese, minus the "S" at the end.
When Akira Toriyama wrote her name as "Bulma" on her shirt in early Dragon Ball, he made a simple mistake, one very easy to make by a Japanese person who doesn't speak fluent English.
And honestly, calling her "Bulma" makes the pun a bit of a stretch, I think.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by uncutpokemon » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:01 pm

Never cared for the way some of the Ginyu force names were translated, kinda made the dairy puns confusing. Personally I would have used the following

Guldo = Gurt
Burter can stay the same since the pun still works
Jeice = Jheese (like it was in the manga)
Recoome = Recam
Ginyu can stay the same since the pun won't make sense in English no matter how you spin it

Oh and also Dabura should have been Dabra so that the pun on abracadabra makes sense, I used to think his name was a variant of diablo or something.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by PremiumSalt » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:33 pm

This doesn't exactly qualify as a name change, but I'm continually frustrated by Funimation's unwillingness to say "Son Goku" or "Son Gohan". What particular baffles me is that the one time they did use it, in the Freeza arc in Kai, wasn't exactly necessary to the scene, but in Kai TFC, they rewrote Videl discovering Gohan being Goku's son, so that instead of her figuring it out based on the family name, she "did some research". Why didn't they use the family name there and save themselves the trouble? It boggles my brain.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by PeanutSaiyan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:48 pm

None. Some of it just doesn't translate into English very well and sounds downright silly so a few liberties have to be taken. You want a pure DBZ experience? Go watch the original sub which is available in multiple formats.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by precita » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:49 pm

Nearly every characters name is spelled or pronounced differently in the dub than the original. If we were complaining about name changes we'd be here all day. It is weird to me that Dragonball is signaled out for name changes, when this happens with almost every english localized anime.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:03 pm

What exactly constitutes a name "change?" So far, I see a lot of people dissatisfied with the spelling for names. Meanwhile, that isn't a change per se because the true name is in characters that do not exist in English. So if that's the case, then by default, every single name has been "changed." Goku's name is not spelled as "Goku" in the Japanese version, it's spelled as 孫 悟空. Are we going by Toei's official name spelling for merchandise which in a lot of cases, probably came after the dub started?

And then, there are the pronunciations. I don't factor those into the equation because it's just unrealistic to think that an English dub wouldn't put its own native language's spin on the names because English's native way of pronouncing something is different than in Japanese. Otherwise, it comes off not sounding smooth. I know that lots of people pronounce the Japanese names just fine, but it is a little jarring when you throw it into the middle of an English sentence.

Yet, I understand people wanting the names to be pronounced the same as intended. I understand that one way more than complaints about spelling. And what exactly is a name change in reference to things that are translatable? For example, "oozaru" has a direct translation -- do we consider it a name change when we don't say "oozaru" or when we don't call it "great ape?"

Personally, to me, a name change is an actual change like from Satan to Hercule, from Bra to Bulla, from whatever the minor characters' names are into Jimbo and all that. "Say-an" vs. "Sci-yan?" Yeah, I get it. "Kai-o-ken" vs. "K.O. ken?" Yep, I get it. "Freeze-ah" vs. "Freeze-ah?" Not so much.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:16 pm

Think of it this way: if I had in mind that romanizing the names into English counted as a "name change" in this case, I wouldn't have made the thread, at least not without being more clear. :P In other words, it's just what you'd expect - the names that are clearly different from the ones used in Japanese, like King Kai or Master Roshi (in most cases for the latter).

As for Freeza vs Frieza, it's like spelling Kris as Chris. It's pronounced the same way, but it's​ just irritating ​to see it spelled incorrectly when you know the correct​ spelling. Maybe that's not the best analogy, but hopefully you'll get what I mean.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Bajosexto » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:06 pm

PeanutSaiyan wrote:None. Some of it just doesn't translate into English very well and sounds downright silly so a few liberties have to be taken. You want a pure DBZ experience? Go watch the original sub which is available in multiple formats.
What do you mean by, "some of it just doesn't translate well into English"? And why should they change the characters names because some of them sound silly? I mean, aren't a lot of Dragon Ball names (Japanese and dubbed) silly?

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by floofychan333 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:21 pm

"Gohawn," "Yawmcha," and "Tien Shinhawn" bug me the most because of the horrendous mispronunciations. Hercule is stupid because it's unnecessary censorship too. Surprisingly, I don't really care about Frieza, though I use Freeza, because they're both pronounced the exact same way.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Rafa Fast » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:43 am

I never cared very much about this, but yeah some names in Funi annoys me, I don't like "Tienshinhan", I always said or wrote Tenshinhan, I never say "Hercule" too, for me is so stupid, I didn't liked "King Yemma" too, I always say Enma-Sama or Enma-Daioh, "Shenron" is not annoying for me, but I think "ShenLong" is a better name for a dragon, now "Omni King" for me is just stupid, I always said Zeno or Zenoh, seriously this is the only place that I said Omni King, "Grand Priest" or "Grand Minister" annoys me too, I always said Daishinkan, also, putting Black before Goku "Black Goku" don't annoys me too, but I prefer "Goku Black", also have "Bulla", like, I know "Bra" is already a unusual name for the character, but I prefer million of times to say Bra instead of Bulla, for me "Bulla" is just weird as hell, my friend always says Bulla and I always says too " what a ugly name lol"...now the last one is Great Ape, for me was just unecessary and stupid, for me saying "Great Ape" makes the transformation random, without anything special, I'll always say Oozaru, fits more with the transformation and don't make it sounds like that is just a random Giant Monkey.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Dagon » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:37 am

Kaboom wrote:I'm going to cast my vote for the names of all Bardock's teammates as a collective whole. Saiyan names are so difficult to screw up with the obvious vegetable puns and all, yet somehow Funimation managed it. You'd think maybe they just had nothing to go by and had to guess, but they still got sorta close with "Tora" for Toma, so...

"Bulla" and "Hercule" and "Dabura" and "Frieza" all get honorable mentions too.
"Bulla" is kind of necessary otherwise "Bra" would not be able to be taken seriously in English.
floofychan333 wrote:"Gohawn," "Yawmcha," and "Tien Shinhawn" bug me the most because of the horrendous mispronunciations. Hercule is stupid because it's unnecessary censorship too. Surprisingly, I don't really care about Frieza, though I use Freeza, because they're both pronounced the exact same way.
Tell me how "Gohawn" and "Gohan" differ. Like "Han Solo" is the same as "Hawn Sowe-low." Or would you prefer Chow-Yun Fat's pronunciation of "Go-hann" (han like in hand).
And you complain about "Yawmcha?" Would you prefer "Yuh-moo-chuh?" "Shinhawn," really? What's with all the "awns?" How is that different from the "an" written as-is? I don't get how "Han" and "Hawn" are different. They make the same sound, unless you use the "a" as in "apple."
uncutpokemon wrote:Never cared for the way some of the Ginyu force names were translated, kinda made the dairy puns confusing. Personally I would have used the following

Guldo = Gurt
Burter can stay the same since the pun still works
Jeice = Jheese (like it was in the manga)
Recoome = Recam
Ginyu can stay the same since the pun won't make sense in English no matter how you spin it

Oh and also Dabura should have been Dabra so that the pun on abracadabra makes sense, I used to think his name was a variant of diablo or something.
They kept it as "Dabura" because it fits with the mouth flaps better. Bafflingly, they changed "Toppo" to "Top," which required them to change the dialogue to match the lip flaps. Like his Kaioshin saying "Tell me, Top," rather than just "Toppo" by itself. And personally I think "Dabra" sounds kind of wimpy. The "u" in "Dabura" makes him sound more sinister. Kind of like if you changed "Sauron" to "Saron." It loses that sinister sound.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:00 am

After watching the sub, I can't stand how the dub says "Goku."
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Spider-Man » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:03 am

Top and Casserale bother me the most, especially Top.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:04 am

Dagon wrote:"Bulla" is kind of necessary otherwise "Bra" would not be able to be taken seriously in English.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Mosaic » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:28 am

I'm not sure if this counts, but changing Piccolo's alias from "Ma Junior" to "Junior" in Dragon Ball got on my nerves. Only because he uses the alias "Ma Junior" in the Boo saga dub. They created their own inconsistency!

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:43 am

Rafa Fast wrote:also, putting Black before Goku "Black Goku" don't annoys me too.
Isnt that something only some fans do?

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by sunsetshimmer » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:46 am

Bra -> Bulla
Super Yi Xing Long -> Omega Shenron (should've been Super Syn Shenron at least)
Tenshinhan -> Tien Shinhan
Super Uub -> Majuub
Metal Cooler -> Meta Cooler
Hyper Mega Rildo -> Hyper Meta Rildo
Metal Rildo -> Meta Rildo (makes it look like it was weaker form than HMR)
Kami -> Kami (just a fact they changed a 'god' title into damn name)

Also:
Kamehameha X10 -> Kamehameha :shock:
Final Shine Attack -> Final Flash :shock: (except for first use)
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