Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Khandom101
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by Khandom101 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:14 am
Polyphase Avatron wrote:GodKaio-Ken wrote:sintzu wrote:
Even UI didn't seem to do much against Jerin. The only way I see him going out is if he has to fight 2 UI fighters and even then he seems like he could hold them off.
Why do people not realize Goku couldn't hurt Jiren because HE COULDNT USE UI TO ATTACK YET.
It's really obvious but I see all these people saying Jiren beat UI Goku. No he did not. He couldn't touch Goku and stopped NORMAL ATTACKS.
Well he did get a good hit on Jiren at least once.
It was actually not once but thrice.
1. When he dodged Jirens punch, you could see a scratch on Jiren jawline.
2. When he kicked Jiren in the stomach midair.
3. When he hit him with the kamehameha like wave.
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BlueVegerot
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by BlueVegerot » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:03 pm
Jiren was also heavily suppressed. I think people are glossing over the fact that he's stronger than Gods of Destruction. Whis said he might have surpassed that level alltogether. When he goes 100% it will probably scare the living shit out of everyone below Angel level
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by Jigurashi » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:40 pm
GodKaio-Ken wrote:sintzu wrote:PsionicWarrior wrote:
For him to win he needs to attain UI during this arc, which I think would be a bad idea.
Even UI didn't seem to do much against Jerin. The only way I see him going out is if he has to fight 2 UI fighters and even then he seems like he could hold them off.
Why do people not realize Goku couldn't hurt Jiren because HE COULDNT USE UI TO ATTACK YET.
It's really obvious but I see all these people saying Jiren beat UI Goku. No he did not. He couldn't touch Goku and stopped NORMAL ATTACKS.
I mean he outlasted UI Goku and won the fight, so yes, he did beat UI Goku. He didn't actually knock UI out of him.
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by Asura » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:54 pm
Looked like Jiren was also hiding his power in that fight, given we see that strange red aura when he catches Goku’s punch. Goku will need more than UI to beat him and if Jiren thought Goku was a real threat right now he would eliminate him but instead still chooses to ignore fighting him.
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by buutenks » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:07 pm
Asura wrote:Looked like Jiren was also hiding his power in that fight, given we see that strange red aura when he catches Goku’s punch. Goku will need more than UI to beat him and if Jiren thought Goku was a real threat right now he would eliminate him but instead still chooses to ignore fighting him.
Goku's UI ran out before the punch connected. Hence why Jiren said, so this is your limit.
But, since Goku's Ui is incomplete, he wouldnt be able to ring out Jiren. I'm sure complete Ui would faceroll Jiren, since he would have the perfect defense and perfect offense, but since he only has defense and his offense is weak(seeing how Kefla was able to take the hits, who compared to Jiren, might as well be an ant), Goku wont be able to do significant damage to Jiren atm.
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by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:15 pm
Asura wrote:Looked like Jiren was also hiding his power in that fight, given we see that strange red aura when he catches Goku’s punch. Goku will need more than UI to beat him and if Jiren thought Goku was a real threat right now he would eliminate him but instead still chooses to ignore fighting him.
I think Jiren didn't eliminate him because he knows Goku is still becoming stronger and mastering his techniques so he wants him to fully master UI so he can have a good fight with him.
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by BlueVegerot » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:26 pm
buutenks wrote:Asura wrote:Looked like Jiren was also hiding his power in that fight, given we see that strange red aura when he catches Goku’s punch. Goku will need more than UI to beat him and if Jiren thought Goku was a real threat right now he would eliminate him but instead still chooses to ignore fighting him.
Goku's UI ran out before the punch connected. Hence why Jiren said, so this is your limit.
But, since Goku's Ui is incomplete, he wouldnt be able to ring out Jiren. I'm sure complete Ui would faceroll Jiren, since he would have the perfect defense and perfect offense, but since he only has defense and his offense is weak(seeing how Kefla was able to take the hits, who compared to Jiren, might as well be an ant), Goku wont be able to do significant damage to Jiren atm.
I doubt complete UI would faceroll jiren. Sure you can attack instinctively but your punches are based on your power and you can't dodge faster than your body can. Jiren true power and speed might overpower Goku's UI even mastered.