Why did Toei make their characters worse in DBS anime?

[super michael]

-Well, Gohan once sat on his ass for 20 hours and became Ultimate Gohan. This kind of asspull isn't new to the franchise, and while probably all of us couldn't believe Freeza got as strong with just 4 months of training, at least the reason was that he trained for it. I doubt they'll come up with a better explanation for when they bring Freeza back again to face UI Goku and need him to be relevant powerwise.

- You have a point there, Cell Jrs should have a much bigger potential than just an android. They should've gotten a considerable boost in power after that.

Elder Kaioshin used his magic to unlock Gohan potential, the explanation here is magic. However what explantion is there for Freeza to get strong by beating a weakling? I have no issue with Freeza 4 month training, it is the method of his training that is the issue.
Magic is treated like a huge thing in Dragon Ball like Babidi magic, Devilman magic technique to 1 hit kill those with evil, Dabura magic and now Moro magic.
Dende can heal beings way stronger than him without a problem, which is again magic. What about the Dragon Balls granting wishes beyond the user own power like reviving people.

Elder Guru used his magic to unlock Krillin and Gohan powers.

Cell Jrs are born with power greater than Freeza, so Cell Jrs should have more potential than Freeza.

[RandomGuy96]

My personal theory is that it's likely Toei took some influence from One Piece, either directly or indirectly, and made Goku more Luffy-like.

This makes way too much sense.

[Tai Lung]

- Actually Puar was talking while transformed, here is the video https://www.crunchyroll.com/dragon-ball ... oku-724601 however your right about distance. Then later Goku flew down and was near everyone, which is when Yamcha spilled the beans. He was close enough everyone to hear their voice, smell their scent, sense their ki, etc.
- King Kai considered Goku choice bad to take Cell to his planet. However at the current point behaviour, Goku didn't force King Kai to train him. Being annoyed by something someone did in the past isn't the same as being annoying in the present.
- I agree with you there such as Freeza let him reach full power, destroying the potara and refusing to fight with Vegeta. As for not using SS3 Goku said why he didn't want to use it since he didn't know how it work in the living world.
- Correct about Babidi Space Ship, when they saw Gohan struggle they should have helped him.
- Goku said his reason for not wanting to kill Dr Gero before the 3 years, he said it would be mean since he hasn't done anything wrong yet. Chapter 336. Although Goku does say he wants to fight the Androids.
- I agree with you here.
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actually goku no longer used his nose as an adult ..
and goku did not learn to feel the god ki until fnf arc .. so he technically would not have known to recognize the power of beerus ... also he can't sense ki god in base form

well at least we reason good about this

[super michael]

actually goku no longer used his nose as an adult ..
and goku did not learn to feel the god ki until fnf arc .. so he technically would not have known to recognize the power of beerus ... also he can't sense ki god in base form

well at least we reason good about this

So Goku just lost that ability for no reason? Why would he stop using such a useful ability? It was thanks to that ability that it helped him with finding Master Roshi stone in a huge forest.
I checked the video and Goku says that Beerus in the costume energy feels like Beerus. Goku didn't say that he couldn't sense his ki. Nowhere does it say that base Goku can't sense God Ki. There is also the costume breaking, but that didn't tip Goku of at all.

What does FnF arc stand for? Just incase that episode is after U6 vs U7.

@Magnificent Ponta@ Thanks for the information, so it is Revival of F. That episode is way beyond Revival of F. First it is BoG > RoF > U6 vs U7 and then the episode I mentioned.

[Magnificent Ponta]

What does FnF arc stand for? Just incase that episode is after U6 vs U7.

Fukkatsu no F (Revival of F).

[super michael]

What does FnF arc stand for? Just incase that episode is after U6 vs U7.

Fukkatsu no F (Revival of F).

Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure if it was Revival of F or not. Just curious how do I send notification to members? I thought doing @name would do it, but doesn't do anything here. Here another question how come some post I edit it doesn't say I edited?

[Magnificent Ponta]

What does FnF arc stand for? Just incase that episode is after U6 vs U7.

Fukkatsu no F (Revival of F).

Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure if it was Revival of F or not. Just curious how do I send notification to members? I thought doing @name would do it, but doesn't do anything here. Here another question how come some post I edit it doesn't say I edited?

By default, members are notified when you quote their posts and leave the details in the tag created by the quote function intact. If you delete that stuff from the tags and leave a bare quote tag, though, it doesn't. I don't think there's any other way of doing it, though of course you can also send PMs to members.

[Tai Lung]

actually goku no longer used his nose as an adult ..
and goku did not learn to feel the god ki until fnf arc .. so he technically would not have known to recognize the power of beerus ... also he can't sense ki god in base form

well at least we reason good about this

So Goku just lost that ability for no reason? Why would he stop using such a useful ability? It was thanks to that ability that it helped him with finding Master Roshi stone in a huge forest.
I checked the video and Goku says that Beerus in the costume energy feels like Beerus. Goku didn't say that he couldn't sense his ki. Nowhere does it say that base Goku can't sense God Ki. There is also the costume breaking, but that didn't tip Goku of at all.

What does FnF arc stand for? Just incase that episode is after U6 vs U7.

that is, Piccolo did not use his hearing ability when Dr. Gero caught him
In reality they should not except for Frieza, no other warrior other than a god was capable of that ... to how much they can feel a pressure


vegeta in the manga only assumes it is goku because he can't feel his ki
however he is not able to sense it to teleport