The Official Dragonball Evolution Game Thread

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:30 pm

DominatorLost wrote:Oh my god...

You know how the Budokai games follow that pattern of similarity? That's forgivable because they're a series meant to be like that. This is lazy, it should be a totally new game, instead, it's just going to be a re-skin of Shin Budokai, except possibly worse. I didn't even bring up Super DBZ, no one did, I don't see why you should because it has nothing to do with this.

Yes it does, just because games share a similar engine doesn't mean they are ripping each other off. I can't even fucking tell how you're saying it's a reskin when all you've seen of it are a few screenshots with somewhat similar fighting poses to the Budokai games. Let a gameplay trailer come out before you make accusations like that.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:38 pm

This reminds me of Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game. It makes the characters look more like their movie counterparts, but uses pretty much the same engine as Street Fighter II.

Same thing here except with Budokai 3.

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:39 pm

It's a movie-based game, for a movie that is probably gonna bomb, I don't see them putting a lot of effort into it when it's established the fanbase it's aimed at will eat up whatever shit is thrown at them. I never said it was ripping off, I just said it was lazy production. Seeing as how it's been mentioned and it won't die, Super DBZ felt different enough from Street Fighter II, and games that do use similar engines don't rip off, they only rip off if it's something obvious. Besides, we're not even talking about rip-offs here.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:44 pm

DominatorLost wrote:I don't see them putting a lot of effort into it when it's established the fanbase it's aimed at will eat up whatever shit is thrown at them.

I seriously resent that and you can bet that this fan who "eats up whatever shit is thrown at him" isn't going to buy it simply because it has the Dragonball name plastered on it.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:45 pm

DominatorLost wrote:It's a movie-based game, for a movie that is probably gonna bomb, I don't see them putting a lot of effort into it when it's established the fanbase it's aimed at will eat up whatever shit is thrown at them. I never said it was ripping off, I just said it was lazy production. Seeing as how it's been mentioned and it won't die, Super DBZ felt different enough from Street Fighter II, and games that do use similar engines don't rip off, they only rip off if it's something obvious. Besides, we're not even talking about rip-offs here.

1. You said it was nothing but a reskin of Shin Budokai, thus you're saying it's ripping Shin Budokai's engine off including the game's appearance and gameplay. Are you blatantly unaware of what the term "reskin" means? There is no other way to interpret that. You are literally saying it's Shin Budokai with different character models.

2. You haven't played this game yet, it could indeed "feel different enough".
Edit: Anyway we're getting ahead of ourselves who's to say it even plays like Shin Budokai to begin with?

3. I've played a ton of good movie based games such as the Spiderman trilogy.

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:46 pm

Good for you then, I just plan on saving my money.

I'd find "ripping off" to be more apt if it was not a Dragonball game, and a reskin is taking the same model and just changing the appearance of it so does the exact same thing. I wouldn't call it a rip off, because it's part of the Dragonball franchise.

Trust me, I'm not normally a prick like this but I'm surprisingly aggravated.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:56 pm

DominatorLost wrote: a reskin is taking the same model and just changing the appearance of it so does the exact same thing

Exactly, if all the characters moved and attacked like they did in Shin Budokai it would share the same combat engine which is impossible seeing as how there is about 3 KI attacks in this entire film. What would left circle be for Goku? If it was truly a reskin he would stretch his arms out and do the KI cannon attack he used against Jheese and Butta which wouldn't make much sense. Let's just say it shares the same combat engine as Shin Budokai and the KI cannon attack is replaced with something from the film. It wouldn't be a "reskin" anymore seeing as how Goku has new animation.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:56 pm

fps_anth wrote:This reminds me of Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game. It makes the characters look more like their movie counterparts, but uses pretty much the same engine as Street Fighter II.

Same thing here except with Budokai 3.

No. That game uses a broken wannabe Street Fighter II engine. I've never seen juggling that hardcore in a regular Street Fighter game.

I don't even own a PSP so I have no reason to really care about this game. I hope that the vast amount of Dragonball fighters out there already has given this game something of a base to work with so that it isn't a horrible license cash-in.

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:59 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
DominatorLost wrote: a reskin is taking the same model and just changing the appearance of it so does the exact same thing

Exactly, if all the characters moved and attacked like they did in Shin Budokai it would share the same combat engine which is impossible seeing as how there is about 3 KI attacks in this entire film. What would left circle be for Goku? If it was truly a reskin he would stretch his arms out and do the KI cannon attack he used against Jheese and Butta which wouldn't make much sense. Let's just say it shares the same combat engine as Shin Budokai and the KI cannon attack is replaced with something from the film. It wouldn't be a "reskin" anymore seeing as how Goku has new animation.

Fair enough I guess, I just want to cool down now.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:19 pm

This movie really does bring out the worst in people. Can't we have one movie relevant thread that doesn't degrade into swearing?

Just because I have low expectations for movie based games doesn't automatically mean they're not good. I didn't have high expectations for the Spider-man movie games, but I liked most of them.

Son Wukong wrote:Let me correct you on this one.

Bussani wrote: Isn't a PSP about as advanced as a PS2 in terms of graphics and such?
Yes, yes it is.

Observe PSP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgyTZ-1R7XI

Observe PS2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyFJ3Bd ... re=related

They clearly didn't put too much effort in this game. But I might get it anyway just for the lulz.

[Edited]

I have to admit, that Tekken game is very impressive for a PSP game.

Leotaku · Post by **Leotaku** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:23 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:I'm just glad this isn't a shitty platformer. So let's see what will the roster be?

Goku
Bulma
Yamcha
Roshi
Gohan
Piccolo
Mai
Chi Chi

Seems like a rather small array of fighters but we'll see. I'm more excited for the game then the movie in any event.

Maybe there'll be a Fullum Assassin (or whatever it's called).
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj52 ... fulum2.jpg

And perhaps Oozaru Goku. If he's not very big in the movie, he might be suitable for a fighting game like this.

Not that I have a PSP to play this game, but I don't think I'd want any school kid characters popping up in this.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:26 pm

Son Wukong wrote:Let me correct you on this one.

Bussani wrote: Isn't a PSP about as advanced as a PS2 in terms of graphics and such?
Yes, yes it is.

Observe PSP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgyTZ-1R7XI

Observe PS2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyFJ3Bd ... re=related

They clearly didn't put too much effort in this game. But I might get it anyway just for the lulz.

[Edited]

How can you tell thats a video of the PSP version? Wouldn't the video be in widescreen since the PSP is in widescreen? I looked up Tekken 5 PSP on youtube and got this review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MSLceiyaMQ

Looks nothing like the video you posted.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:34 pm

Taku128 wrote:
Son Wukong wrote:Let me correct you on this one.

Bussani wrote: Isn't a PSP about as advanced as a PS2 in terms of graphics and such?
Yes, yes it is.

Observe PSP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgyTZ-1R7XI

Observe PS2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyFJ3Bd ... re=related

They clearly didn't put too much effort in this game. But I might get it anyway just for the lulz.

[Edited]
How can you tell thats a video of the PSP version? Wouldn't the video be in widescreen since the PSP is in widescreen? I looked up Tekken 5 PSP on youtube and got this review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MSLceiyaMQ

Looks nothing like the video you posted.

Hm, that does look more like what I'd expect from the PSP. Still pretty good by PSP standards though.

Hao_Kaiser · Post by **Hao_Kaiser** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:56 pm

Scarz wrote:

I assume this is how Bulma and Yamcha's relationship worked.

The game (visually) looks horrible, admittedly, but, you can't judge a game's quality by its graphics.

If its (assumingly) using the Shin Budokai engine, chances are its probably going to play a bit like Shin Budokai (which, I've heard is pretty decent).

Just based off these initial screenshots, I'd much rather play this than pop Final Bout into my Ps2 again, so... Lets not be so hasty to dismiss it at horrible.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:10 pm

I've played a good amount of PSP games, and none of these shots strike me as "horrible." I think certain games have just set the bar a little higher than most games actually reach.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:15 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:I've played a good amount of PSP games, and none of these shots strike me as "horrible." I think certain games have just set the bar a little higher than most games actually reach.

I agree. Once it's on a PSP screen and moving, you really don't notice. Just look at a screenshot of Maverick Hunter X:

It looks awesome while you're playing it, the backgrounds have detailed little movements and such (those cars in the background move and you can see their headlights moving n all -- it's a really cool effect), but if you take a screenshot and put it on a computer monitor, just look at it...

Deep Thought · Post by **Deep Thought** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:18 pm

Hm, so this a game based off of a movie based off of an anime based off of a manga based off of a manga (Journey to the West), with the gameplay of a game based off of an anime based off of a manga based off of a manga (Journey to the West).

Yup, this game sounds like a winner to me.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:19 pm

Deep Thought wrote:Hm, so this a game based off of a movie based off of an anime based off of a manga based off of a manga (Journey to the West), with the gameplay of a game based off of an anime based off of a manga based off of a manga (Journey to the West).

Yup, this game sounds like a winner to me.

Journey to the West had a manga back then?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:29 pm

Bussani wrote:
Deep Thought wrote:Hm, so this a game based off of a movie based off of an anime based off of a manga based off of a manga (Journey to the West), with the gameplay of a game based off of an anime based off of a manga based off of a manga (Journey to the West).

Yup, this game sounds like a winner to me.
Journey to the West had a manga back then?

I don't know about back then, but...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyuki_(manga)

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:40 pm

Big Momma wrote:I don't know about back then, but...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyuki_(manga)

Yeah, there is that one, but obviously Dragon Ball predates it.

I was asking seriously though. There have been a lot of things based on Journey to the West, so it's possible that there was another manga. But I don't remember there ever being one that followed the story closely (like that one live action series did).