DBZ Movies 7 & 9 Double Feature Discussion

[NeptuneKai]

There was also the part that the dub changed Bojack's origin

Hm, I wasn't aware of that one. Could you please elaborate?

[jjgp1112]

Um...We must be watching different dubs, because King Kai clearly mentions that Bojack was sealed away by the 4 Kais and the seal was broken when King Kai's planet was destroyed and he died. Hell, they even kept the comparisons to Piccolo Daimao.

[Innagadadavida]

Um...We must be watching different dubs, because King Kai clearly mentions that Bojack was sealed away by the 4 Kais and the seal was broken when King Kai's planet was destroyed and he died. Hell, they even kept the comparisons to Piccolo Daimao.

OH MY GOD! THAT JOKE IN DBZ ABRIDGED FINALLY MAKES SENSE.

[Vekurotto]

Um...We must be watching different dubs, because King Kai clearly mentions that Bojack was sealed away by the 4 Kais and the seal was broken when King Kai's planet was destroyed and he died. Hell, they even kept the comparisons to Piccolo Daimao.

There was also the part that the dub changed Bojack's origin

Hm, I wasn't aware of that one. Could you please elaborate?

I don't have the dub on hand.

I remember something about him being a space pirate trapped in Kaioh's Planet in the dub rather than being a threatening menace that was sealed away somewhere else. And Once Goku and Cell blew it up the Kaioh seal was broken.

[jjgp1112]

There was also the part that the dub changed Bojack's origin

Hm, I wasn't aware of that one. Could you please elaborate?

I don't have the dub on hand.

I remember something about him being a space pirate trapped in Kaioh's Planet rather than being a threatening menace that was sealed away, not in Kaioh's planet. Once Goku and Cell blew it up the Kaioh seal was broken.

Um...We must be watching different dubs, because King Kai clearly mentions that Bojack was sealed away by the 4 Kais and the seal was broken when King Kai's planet was destroyed and he died. Hell, they even kept the comparisons to Piccolo Daimao.

[Vekurotto]

^But wasn't he trapped inside of Kaioh's planet in the dub?

[jjgp1112]

I'd check, but my friend has my Bojack DVD right now.

[Taku128]

I'm sorry for asking this stupid question every time a new product comes out but how's the dub for these movies? At least fairly accurate to the original script? Any blaring stupid dialouge or changes?I ask because if the dub is bad I'll have no reason to buy it and I'll just pick up the singles cheaper.

In one of the episodes of the podcast EX said he enjoyed the movie 9 dub. That ought to really say something.

^But wasn't he trapped inside of Kaioh's planet in the dub?

I think you're confusing the dub with DBZ Abridged, where they say Bojack is literally sealed inside of Kaio's Planet.

[Vekurotto]

^But wasn't he trapped inside of Kaioh's planet in the dub?

I think you're confusing the dub with DBZ Abridged, where they say Bojack is literally sealed inside of Kaio's Planet.

I hope I am. From the dub of the movie the only part that sticks in my head is how screwed the buildup to Gohan's transformation was.

It all started with Bojack saying "Was that GOKUU~!!!!!!" when he doesn't even freakin know what the hell a Goku is.

[PrincessVegeta]

^But wasn't he trapped inside of Kaioh's planet in the dub?

I think you're confusing the dub with DBZ Abridged, where they say Bojack is literally sealed inside of Kaio's Planet.[/quote]

Please don't bring up Abridged here since it isn't faitful or true to the original dub at all just a bunch of made up nonsence which makes you think about it too much... both Gozar and Team Four Star are full of fail ><

[jjgp1112]

I think you're confusing the dub with DBZ Abridged, where they say Bojack is literally sealed inside of Kaio's Planet.

Please don't bring up Abridged here since it isn't faitful or true to the original dub at all just a bunch of made up nonsence which makes you think about it too much... both Gozar and Team Four Star are full of fail ><

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Please, STOP POSTING.

[Taku128]

^But wasn't he trapped inside of Kaioh's planet in the dub?

I think you're confusing the dub with DBZ Abridged, where they say Bojack is literally sealed inside of Kaio's Planet.

Please don't bring up Abridged here since it isn't faitful or true to the original dub at all just a bunch of made up nonsence which makes you think about it too much... both Gozar and Team Four Star are full of fail ><

Yeah, wtf? It's like they're trying to be funny. How fail of them.

[NeptuneKai]

I think you're confusing the dub with DBZ Abridged, where they say Bojack is literally sealed inside of Kaio's Planet.

Please don't bring up Abridged here since it isn't faitful or true to the original dub at all just a bunch of made up nonsence which makes you think about it too much... both Gozar and Team Four Star are full of fail ><

Yeah, wtf? It's like they're trying to be funny. How fail of them.

Just when you thought some people couldn't get any dumber eh?

[Kaboom]

Please don't bring up Abridged here since it isn't faitful or true to the original dub at all just a bunch of made up nonsence which makes you think about it too much... both Gozar and Team Four Star are full of fail ><

Good lord, are you serious?

[VegettoEX]

PrincessVegeta, if you are attempting to be "funny", it's clearly not coming through. If you are genuinely serious, I'm sorry to explain that you are missing the points of several projects. If you simply don't enjoy them, that's an entirely separate matter.

Furthermore, people have already seen through your multiple accounts time and time again, and the charade is rather pointless. I'm not even sure why I haven't banned you for that...

Everyone else, please refrain from the personal attacks. You know that's nonsense.

[MagicBox]

There was also the part that the dub changed Bojack's origin and that Goku is some soft teddy bear to Gohan when he just figuratively told Gohan to grow the fuck up in the original. Which then screwed the movie's climax over.

I can't speak for Bojack's origin because I've already gotten rid of my old single (even though I'm 90% sure they got his origin right), but really, is the fact that Goku's more gentle with Gohan that big of a deal?

I remember that in the episode where Gohan defeats Cell, when Gohan has his billionth breakdown of the series, Goku gives him a pep talk. In the original version, he's extremely gentle. He's encouraging him and not being mean to him in the least. In the dub, though, he's the hardass. He tells him to quit attacking himself, shut up, and keep going.

So really, it balances out. In the series, original-Goku is the "gentle teddy bear" and dub-Goku is the hardass. In movie nine, it's reversed. Since that confirms both versions of the character are capable of both emotions, is it that big of a deal? Not attacking you or anything; just curious.

[NeptuneKai]

There was also the part that the dub changed Bojack's origin and that Goku is some soft teddy bear to Gohan when he just figuratively told Gohan to grow the fuck up in the original. Which then screwed the movie's climax over.

I can't speak for Bojack's origin because I've already gotten rid of my old single (even though I'm 90% sure they got his origin right), but really, is the fact that Goku's more gentle with Gohan that big of a deal?

I remember that in the episode where Gohan defeats Cell, when Gohan has his billionth breakdown of the series, Goku gives him a pep talk. In the original version, he's extremely gentle. He's encouraging him and not being mean to him in the least. In the dub, though, he's the hardass. He tells him to quit attacking himself, shut up, and keep going.

So really, it balances out. In the series, original-Goku is the "gentle teddy bear" and dub-Goku is the hardass. In movie nine, it's reversed. Since that confirms both versions of the character of capable of both emotions, is it that big of a deal? Not attacking you or anything; just curious.

I'm actually sort of confused as to why the Japanese version made Goku sort of an asshole. They also gave him similar dialouge in the Saiyajin saga when he tells Gohan to man up. I mean I couldn't picture him talking to Roshi or Kurirrin this way. I don't see where that harsh language is coming from.

[jjgp1112]

There was also the part that the dub changed Bojack's origin and that Goku is some soft teddy bear to Gohan when he just figuratively told Gohan to grow the fuck up in the original. Which then screwed the movie's climax over.

I can't speak for Bojack's origin because I've already gotten rid of my old single (even though I'm 90% sure they got his origin right), but really, is the fact that Goku's more gentle with Gohan that big of a deal?

I remember that in the episode where Gohan defeats Cell, when Gohan has his billionth breakdown of the series, Goku gives him a pep talk. In the original version, he's extremely gentle. He's encouraging him and not being mean to him in the least. In the dub, though, he's the hardass. He tells him to quit attacking himself, shut up, and keep going.

So really, it balances out. In the series, original-Goku is the "gentle teddy bear" and dub-Goku is the hardass. In movie nine, it's reversed. Since that confirms both versions of the character of capable of both emotions, is it that big of a deal? Not attacking you or anything; just curious.

"Will you STOP attacking yourself?! I don't know where you got it in your head that there's something with you - 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT. You've saved my life and our friends' lives so many times, and you're going to do it again - RIGHT NOW!"

[Vekurotto]

I'm actually sort of confused as to why the Japanese version made Goku sort of an asshole. They also gave him similar dialouge in the Saiyajin saga when he tells Gohan to man up. I mean I couldn't picture him talking to Roshi or Kurirrin this way. I don't see where that harsh language is coming from.

I go into that below but really, um, Gohan's being a pussy. There's nothing you can say to get around it. In this movie Gohan deserved to be yelled at for what he does here when

It's also acceptable since Kuririn and Roshi aren't the people that can save the world but Gohan is in my view.

but really, is the fact that Goku's more gentle with Gohan that big of a deal?

I remember that in the episode where Gohan defeats Cell, when Gohan has his billionth breakdown of the series, Goku gives him a pep talk. In the original version, he's extremely gentle. He's encouraging him and not being mean to him in the least. In the dub, though, he's the hardass. He tells him to quit attacking himself, shut up, and keep going.

So really, it balances out. In the series, original-Goku is the "gentle teddy bear" and dub-Goku is the hardass. In movie nine, it's reversed. Since that confirms both versions of the character of capable of both emotions, is it that big of a deal? Not attacking you or anything; just curious.

Well, the point of the transformation was supposed to be about Gohan finally maning up to being the only guy strong enough to save Earth. Countless times, throughout the movie, he wasn't even realizing that he could stop Bojack et all if he really wanted to but he tried doing it the easy way.

I also say that Goku was in character really. He told Goku the same things in the Cell Game and in the movie about showing his true power and things. And then it made since that he went from being fully confident into being pissed scared that Bojack would win which is why he came back and told him to man up. That is why I found it extremely lame that they tried to make Goku look like he was a teddy bear. It just wasn't necessary. And because of this Gohan's entire motives are changed. I felt that instead of maning up he just came around saying "WAHHH LOOK WHUT I CAN DO BOUJACKK!!!"

There's just so much of a difference in emotion for the dub portion and the original of that infamous scene.

[jjgp1112]

I agree. All that "I'M MY FATHER'S SON!!!!!" bullshit is cringe-worthy.