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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Senzu_Bean » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:02 pm

DNA wrote:As I pointed out, I figured Vegeta would be a bit more mature after the trauma.
That could happen... if in GT characters had development. Unfortunately they didn't. All in all GT doesn't add anything to the Dragonball story.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:19 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:That could happen... if in GT characters had development. Unfortunately they didn't. All in all GT doesn't add anything to the Dragonball story.
If you take away the good ending, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation, Baby and the Tsufuru revenge, the fact that the Dragon Balls themselves turn into enemies, showing Gohan actually working in Capsule Corp, showing Trunks as Capsule Corp's CEO, showing Vegeta having other concerns apart from "that pesky Kakarotto", I could go on but yeah, if you take those things, then we have nothing.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by MajinVejitaXV » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:01 pm

Oh, wow. SSJ3 Vegetto. Never saw that coming.

I'mma go take a nap. :P
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:40 pm

DNA wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:That could happen... if in GT characters had development. Unfortunately they didn't. All in all GT doesn't add anything to the Dragonball story.
If you take away the good ending, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation, Baby and the Tsufuru revenge, the fact that the Dragon Balls themselves turn into enemies, showing Gohan actually working in Capsule Corp, showing Trunks as Capsule Corp's CEO, showing Vegeta having other concerns apart from "that pesky Kakarotto", I could go on but yeah, if you take those things, then we have nothing.
So basically for the tournament we would have: weak as hell Gohan (not mystic), "normal" Goten and Trunks, stronger Uub, and stronger Vegeta with SSJ4 (goku would be gone).

That would be one universe. And another universe would be baby or another GT villain. Or several more universes, each one with one GT villain.

Hm, honestly I don`t think it would be that interesting... The only interesting thing would be SSJ4 Vegeta but I don`t think it would fit very well in the tournament. Actually a GT villain would probably be much more interesting than the normal GT universe.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:11 am

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:56 am

rereboy wrote:So basically for the tournament we would have: weak as hell Gohan (not mystic), "normal" Goten and Trunks, stronger Uub, and stronger Vegeta with SSJ4 (goku would be gone).

That would be one universe. And another universe would be baby or another GT villain. Or several more universes, each one with one GT villain.

Hm, honestly I don`t think it would be that interesting... The only interesting thing would be SSJ4 Vegeta but I don`t think it would fit very well in the tournament. Actually a GT villain would probably be much more interesting than the normal GT universe.
That's... exactly what I've said time and time again. The others probably wouldn't even fight, so you would add 2 more fighters: Vegeta and Uub, it would be interesting to see the interactions; the other Buus and Uub interacting with this Uub, and the other Vegetas making fun of this Vegeta's hair! And then being surprised by his Super Saiyan 4 transformation. Also you would have the other version of Pan walking around and becoming depressed for being so weak.

Another option would be instead of this universe, having the break at the end of the Baby saga. So you would have Vegeta with silly hair and chibi Goku with Super Saiyan 4, again, many interactions.

Or maybe the author could interpret that part of the series has Super Saiyan 4 being a special transformation and one can't tap to it just like that, it needs special conditions like tail and bruits waves. So you wouldn't even have Super Saiyan 4's running around, what you would have would be a different Pan, Bra, Goku, Vegeta and Uub for the others to interact with, and if you argue that would be pointless, remember that in universe #16 everyone is the same apart from Pan, Bra and Vegetto.

As for villains, like I said time and time again, the only interesting one would have been Baby, especially his interactions with the likes of Freeza, the savage Saiyans and the other Vegetas. Not only that, but he would probably bring his family to watch, so you would have interactions with the "evil" versions of Bulma, Trunks and Bra.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:16 am

I'd like to see Cell and Baby interact.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:20 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:I'd like to see Cell and Baby interact.
Not being funny... but how so?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:25 am

I'm not sure, but. They're similar. It's like if Gero fought Myu. Sorta.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:48 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:I'm not sure, but. They're similar. It's like if Gero fought Myu. Sorta.
I guess, I just don't see them has having much to talk about :P

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:53 am

DNA wrote:
Silver Sinspawn wrote:I'm not sure, but. They're similar. It's like if Gero fought Myu. Sorta.
I guess, I just don't see them has having much to talk about :P
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Senzu_Bean » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:47 am

DNA wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:That could happen... if in GT characters had development. Unfortunately they didn't. All in all GT doesn't add anything to the Dragonball story.
If you take away the good ending, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation, Baby and the Tsufuru revenge, the fact that the Dragon Balls themselves turn into enemies, showing Gohan actually working in Capsule Corp, showing Trunks as Capsule Corp's CEO, showing Vegeta having other concerns apart from "that pesky Kakarotto", I could go on but yeah, if you take those things, then we have nothing.
That isn't character development. That is merely things happening.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:18 am

Senzu_Bean wrote:That isn't character development. That is merely things happening.
DNA wrote:showing Gohan actually working in Capsule Corp, showing Trunks as Capsule Corp's CEO, showing Vegeta having other concerns apart from "that pesky Kakarotto"
I fail to see how this is not character development.

You could also argue about the Dragon Balls, if you consider them to be "characters".

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:33 am

DNA wrote:
That's... exactly what I've said time and time again. The others probably wouldn't even fight, so you would add 2 more fighters: Vegeta and Uub, it would be interesting to see the interactions; the other Buus and Uub interacting with this Uub, and the other Vegetas making fun of this Vegeta's hair! And then being surprised by his Super Saiyan 4 transformation. Also you would have the other version of Pan walking around and becoming depressed for being so weak.
But that`s just it... I don`t find those interactions that interesting... Think about it. Vegeta is practically the same Vegeta from universe 18. The Vegetas we saw in this manga were all very, very different from each other, which was nice and it was interesting. The only differences between GT Vegeta and universe 18`s Vegeta would be his hair and the SSJ4. And the only thing different enough about him to make the interaction between him and the others interesting would be the SSJ4, and that would probably make him as strong or stronger than Vegetto since the Rou Kaioshin said that SSJ4 Goku was the strongest fighter he had ever seen in GT and SSJ4 Vegeta must be as strong as SSJ4 Goku. And I don`t know if that would fit in the tournament very well. But who knows? Also I`m not sure I would like all the sayans making plans to, or trying to, achieve SSJ4, including Vegetto, at some point in the tournament. It just seems weird to me.

As for Uub, its the same problem. Him and 18`s Uub are practically the same. GT Uub would just be stronger. Not very interesting.

As for Pan I don`t see any difference between her and 18`s Pan. They both can`t go SSJ and they must have similar power.

As for just having a universe after the bebi saga, that just seems like a weird idea to me. But interactions with chibi Goku would probably be the best interactions we could get from the GT universe.

Anyway, like I said, a GT villain would probably be more interesting than the normal GT universe. To me at least.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Godo » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:58 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
DNA wrote:
Silver Sinspawn wrote:I'm not sure, but. They're similar. It's like if Gero fought Myu. Sorta.
I guess, I just don't see them has having much to talk about :P
Cell: So, how are you?

Babi: Yeah good. And you?

Cell: Good, good.

*Awkward Silence*
Baby: So you are the one called Cell? I've heard about you. Unlucky for you, I am the greater model, created with better scientific methods. In fact, I am probably much stronger than you!
Cell: I am made out of the cells of the Earth's greatest fighters, the ones you have had so much problems with. I only need to absorb people's power instead of taking over their bodies! I am a much more superior creation!
Baby: Do you want to find out who is the strongest!
Cell: Bring it on!

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Xyex » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:11 pm

Bebi: "So, you're Cell, eh? I heard about you."
Cell: "And you would be...?"
Bebi: "The name's Bebi. We're similar, you and I. You were created for revenge on Goku, I was created for revenge on the Saiya-jins as a whole."
Cell: "Bebi? I met a Bebi once. Annoying little parasite tried to steal my body, so I squashed it."
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Zephyr » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:21 pm

Xyex wrote:
Silver Sinspawn wrote:I TOTALLY KNOW HOW THIS WILL END
A GT villain will come along! I mean, people are in their GT age, but none of the villains are there.
That's because Salagir doesn't like GT, so it is being completely ignored. GT does not exist in DBM.
I don't care for GT myself, and for various reasons don't consider it canon, but it still should have shown up as another Universe. It would bring more mindfuck interactions to the story than Broly or Bojack would. Though I suppose Broly does add some sort of conflict.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Senzu_Bean » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:38 pm

The only interesting villain in GT is Bebi/Baby. Although the fact he is a genetically mutated parasite Tuffle sucks, since that make me remember the God awful Saiyan backstory filler. And the fact Gohan was original Bebi's host doesn't help either.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:10 pm

So this is where the Space Duck joke came from!

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kaboom » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:13 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:And the fact Gohan was originally Bebi's host doesn't help either.
Don't you mean Goten? He was the first one Baby possessed on Earth. Even still, he actually took over Trunks for a while first on Pital and before that w-- SWEET MERCIFUL MINTY MONSTROSITIES, LOOK AT THAT NEW PAGE.
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