"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Super Saiyan God » Sat May 06, 2017 8:59 am

Well even if frieza is bad guys this doesnt mean he cant join to tournament of power and i think he can even get prize instead of going to hell after tournament is end.
Look at the Frost he even worse then frieza but still joined the tournament
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Post by TheMikado » Sat May 06, 2017 9:00 am

Lord Frieza wrote:
Its called a red herring - a clue or piece of information which is or is intended to be misleading or distracting.

Caulifla exists to create speculation among the fan base, to get us talking. If she was the LSS then the magazine artical of her announcement would have had a big arrow pointing to the fact or words to that effect. Instead they show the images side by side with no information to connect them. Caulifla is there to make questions were none are, a red herring or simply put "Toei is f##king with us".

You say Caulifla and Kale sound alike in Japanese, I'm shore they must do and its a pretty cleaver idea because it makes the red herring sound even more believable.
It's also possible there is no red herring and a corporate entity like Toei has neither the time nor incentive to "trick" a handful of investigations fans. I think we may be giving to Toei way much credit here by suggesting they set up an elaborate ruse.

It's just as likely their marketing department got overzealous and started hyping up unfinished products. I mean the announcement for the universal survival arc contained rough black and white sketches. It's not a stretch to imagine marketing grabbed whatever they could and ran with it. Either way we will see soon but that's my theory on this.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat May 06, 2017 9:00 am

Super Saiyan God wrote:Well even if frieza is bad guys this doesnt mean he cant join to tournament of power and i think he can even get prize instead of going to hell after tournament is end
Hell three of U9's fighters are total scum bags so why shouldn't Frieza join?

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Post by MrBlackFox » Sat May 06, 2017 9:01 am

I call that a fake, but I think Frieza would prefer to help and go away after the tournament, rather that stay dead or continue to be killed again and again

Or maybe he'll take one of Gods of destruction place after the tournament?

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat May 06, 2017 9:02 am

TheMikado wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
Its called a red herring - a clue or piece of information which is or is intended to be misleading or distracting.

Caulifla exists to create speculation among the fan base, to get us talking. If she was the LSS then the magazine artical of her announcement would have had a big arrow pointing to the fact or words to that effect. Instead they show the images side by side with no information to connect them. Caulifla is there to make questions were none are, a red herring or simply put "Toei is f##king with us".

You say Caulifla and Kale sound alike in Japanese, I'm shore they must do and its a pretty cleaver idea because it makes the red herring sound even more believable.
It's also possible there is no red herring and a corporate entity like Toei has neither the time nor incentive to "trick" a handful of investigations fans. I think we may be giving to Toei way much credit here by suggesting they set up an elaborate ruse.

It's just as likely their marketing department got overzealous and started hyping up unfinished products. I mean the announcement for the universal survival arc contained rough black and white sketches. It's not a stretch to imagine marketing grabbed whatever they could and ran with it. Either way we will see soon but that's my theory on this.
Fair enough really we could sit here all day and discuss it but the information will be coming soon enough, so we'll let it be until the full facts come out. Its good to get both ideas out there though.

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Post by Super Saiyan God » Sat May 06, 2017 9:03 am

Lord Frieza wrote:
Super Saiyan God wrote:Well even if frieza is bad guys this doesnt mean he cant join to tournament of power and i think he can even get prize instead of going to hell after tournament is end
Hell three of U9's fighters are total scum bags so why shouldn't Frieza join?
Yes you are right and for example Frost is bad too but he still joined in universe 6 and 7's tournament. So golden frieza is enough to defeat enemy until cabba if he was on tournament 6 and 7. But Hit is still little stronger then Golden Frieza. but i would like to see Golden Frieza vs Hit in tournament of power

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Post by kinisking » Sat May 06, 2017 9:04 am

TheMikado wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
Its called a red herring - a clue or piece of information which is or is intended to be misleading or distracting.

Caulifla exists to create speculation among the fan base, to get us talking. If she was the LSS then the magazine artical of her announcement would have had a big arrow pointing to the fact or words to that effect. Instead they show the images side by side with no information to connect them. Caulifla is there to make questions were none are, a red herring or simply put "Toei is f##king with us".

You say Caulifla and Kale sound alike in Japanese, I'm shore they must do and its a pretty cleaver idea because it makes the red herring sound even more believable.
It's also possible there is no red herring and a corporate entity like Toei has neither the time nor incentive to "trick" a handful of investigations fans. I think we may be giving to Toei way much credit here by suggesting they set up an elaborate ruse.

It's just as likely their marketing department got overzealous and started hyping up unfinished products. I mean the announcement for the universal survival arc contained rough black and white sketches. It's not a stretch to imagine marketing grabbed whatever they could and ran with it. Either way we will see soon but that's my theory on this.
It was the manga that was shown, not just some rough black and white sketches. A promotional product was being used for promotion. I doubt this is meant to trick the audience, but I don't think they'd go ahead and use designs that aren't finished yet.
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Post by pacz360 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:05 am

Super Saiyan God wrote:Well even if frieza is bad guys this doesnt mean he cant join to tournament of power and i think he can even get prize instead of going to hell after tournament is end.
Look at the Frost he even worse then frieza but still joined the tournament
Nah frost is less worst then Frieza while frost is pos Frieza more or less exterminated entire races and tortured our heroes for shit and giggles.
Besides your better off trusting yamcha on the team then some asshole who will backstab you any chance.
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Post by Super Saiyan God » Sat May 06, 2017 9:05 am

MrBlackFox wrote:I call that a fake, but I think Frieza would prefer to help and go away after the tournament, rather that stay dead or continue to be killed again and again

Or maybe he'll take one of Gods of destruction place after the tournament?
Well if he bargain that. that might be discusable but i dont think he will be god of destruction but he will want to more and better thing than to be god of destruction.

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Post by emperior » Sat May 06, 2017 9:05 am

Super Saiyan God wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
Super Saiyan God wrote:Well even if frieza is bad guys this doesnt mean he cant join to tournament of power and i think he can even get prize instead of going to hell after tournament is end
Hell three of U9's fighters are total scum bags so why shouldn't Frieza join?
Yes you are right and for example Frost is bad too but he still joined in universe 6 and 7's tournament. So golden frieza is enough to defeat enemy until cabba if he was on tournament 6 and 7. But Hit is still little stronger then Golden Frieza. but i would like to see Golden Frieza vs Hit in tournament of power
If Freezer is brought back it will be just to show him against Frost. That would be a good battle. Maybe he could redeem himself along with Frost and start making money in a honest way together after the tournament.
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Post by Lujin_16 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:06 am

It makes sense they had a fight not long ago and Goku wants to be sure to win the tournament this is clever in my opinion

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Post by Super Saiyan God » Sat May 06, 2017 9:06 am

If Frieza would be in tournament power i just want to see Golden Frieza vs Hit

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Post by MrBlackFox » Sat May 06, 2017 9:07 am

Plus, Frieza and Frost interactions would be goat

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Post by emperior » Sat May 06, 2017 9:07 am

kinisking wrote:
TheMikado wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
Its called a red herring - a clue or piece of information which is or is intended to be misleading or distracting.

Caulifla exists to create speculation among the fan base, to get us talking. If she was the LSS then the magazine artical of her announcement would have had a big arrow pointing to the fact or words to that effect. Instead they show the images side by side with no information to connect them. Caulifla is there to make questions were none are, a red herring or simply put "Toei is f##king with us".

You say Caulifla and Kale sound alike in Japanese, I'm shore they must do and its a pretty cleaver idea because it makes the red herring sound even more believable.
It's also possible there is no red herring and a corporate entity like Toei has neither the time nor incentive to "trick" a handful of investigations fans. I think we may be giving to Toei way much credit here by suggesting they set up an elaborate ruse.

It's just as likely their marketing department got overzealous and started hyping up unfinished products. I mean the announcement for the universal survival arc contained rough black and white sketches. It's not a stretch to imagine marketing grabbed whatever they could and ran with it. Either way we will see soon but that's my theory on this.
It was the manga that was shown, not just some rough black and white sketches. A promotional product was being used for promotion. I doubt this is meant to trick the audience, but I don't think they'd go ahead and use designs that aren't finished yet.
And why would Toei even release the female SSJ design on that magazine, if it wasn't finished and confirmed to appear in the show? It makes no sense. There must be two female Saiyans.
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Post by Kanassa » Sat May 06, 2017 9:10 am

I doubt this Frieza thing has any weight, at least in our interpretation of it. If Frieza, the most iconic Dragonball villain, was going to show up in this tournament, Toei would of whored that info out before now.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat May 06, 2017 9:10 am

While I was against it in the past, thinking about it: Frieza is at heart a businessman, that makes him far more trustworthy most of the other villains. If you give him something he wants more then Goku dead he'll take it. If they offer him a chance out of hell he might just take the offer.

Also he practice not killing during his time with Tagoma, Frieza tortured him to near death but was always careful not to kill.

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Post by pacz360 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:11 am

emperior wrote:
Super Saiyan God wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
Hell three of U9's fighters are total scum bags so why shouldn't Frieza join?
Yes you are right and for example Frost is bad too but he still joined in universe 6 and 7's tournament. So golden frieza is enough to defeat enemy until cabba if he was on tournament 6 and 7. But Hit is still little stronger then Golden Frieza. but i would like to see Golden Frieza vs Hit in tournament of power
If Freezer is brought back it will be just to show him against Frost. That would be a good battle. Maybe he could redeem himself along with Frost and start making money in a honest way together after the tournament.
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Post by Kanassa » Sat May 06, 2017 9:13 am

pacz360 wrote: >Freeza
>Redeemed
That will be the dumbest and absolutely most retarded decision this franchise Could ever make.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat May 06, 2017 9:14 am

Freeza coming back would be so good, why wasn't he thought to be brought in for the tournament is till now bothers me actually..
Berrus has his life on the line, he is above freeza and cam hakai the shit outta him, freeza wants to not stay in hell, golden form will actually have a use instead if just killing the guy off, goku and freeza working together.. the possibilities are endless..

Swap out anyone for frezza, that guy will be an asset as long as berrus is there..

All of this is possible of course if this is true, Which i hope it is
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