"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Lord Frieza]

I just thought about the timing of this and the Super dub. It'll be like when the Great Saiyaman episodes were airing alongside the first arc of Buu Kai.

Your right, the timing could not have been more perfect.

[DainIronfoot]

I could only imagine the reactions of Piccolo and Kuririn hearing that they are going to team with Freeza. I'm very disappointed about Buu, I think even more so because it's the same reason as last time...which makes you go "OK come the f on..."

However, I also have a small feeling that maybe this might not come to pass either...maybe we are about to get Freeza but something happens and he can't. It'd be funny if our heroes think they're screwed and then Buu wakes up or Yamcha makes his appearance. I can definitely see this as a possibility at the very least.

[Boo Machine]

I could only imagine the reactions of Piccolo and Kuririn hearing that they are going to team with Freeza. I'm very disappointed about Buu, I think even more so because it's the same reason as last time...which makes you go "OK come the f on..."

However, I also have a small feeling that maybe this might not come to pass either...maybe we are about to get Freeza but something happens and he can't. It'd be funny if our heroes think they're screwed and then Buu wakes up or Yamcha makes his appearance. I can definitely see this as a possibility at the very least.

With the Yamcha joke going on I could totally seem him walking up to them at the last minute in a huff saying "What the hell guys!? Where is my invite?!" And everyone being like "Oh yeah! You kind of fight to, right?" and then have him come along.

But that would still have the unfortunate side of Buu sleeping for the 3rd time. Which sucks.

[Lord Frieza]

I wonder, is there some kind of unspoken rule that Frieza and Buu cannot both be active at the same time?

Kind of like how in the Super Robot Wars games they never once put Go Nagai's Grendizer and Mazinkaizer in the same game.

[precita]

The only way I can stomach this is if Buu wakes up in the last moment and they kick Roshi off the team. Roshi can still stay as a spectator.

[Overlord78]

Just when I thought Super couldn't get any worse than it already is they manage to pull this off. Bravo Super, not even I thought you could be this terrible

I think it's safe to say that I consider GT the superior product now.

It'll be interesting to see how many more supporters GT will get once Super is over cause the longer it goes on the more fan service we'll get.

So for this arc we have Female Saiyans, a Broly lookalike & now Freeza.
In the previous arc we had evil Goku, Future Trunks and Vegetto.
In the one before that we had alternate universe Saiyans and Freeza.
RF was of course Freeza coming back.

Another thing I'm looking forward to is what kind of fan service will we get in the next arc. Maybe Bardock ?

Consider how much Bardock is featured in other products such as DB Heroes and Xenoverse I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up showing up in a future arc. At this point I really don't care anymore since it's just the fanfiction show where literally anything can happen.

[TekTheNinja]

Obviously it is not going to just be Goku alone on screen, but just because a character exists in Dragon Ball, that doesn't mean they deserve any certain amount of screen time. Goku goes on his adventures, and anyone that Toriyama/Toei feels like drawing in gets to be a part of it. To say otherwise is absolutely naive...?

Ya know I'd go about this argument for the billionth time, but it's not very relevant anymore now that other characters will seemingly be getting spotlight, and I would much rather be discussing this overused Frieza asshole right now.

Never really understood the want for other characters to "shine" with this series. Like, I get it. People are tired of Goku, but he IS the main focus of the story whether anyone likes it or not, Lol.

I mean, plenty of times in the series have we seen others have their time to shine with Goku not in the arcs.

Goku dead training with Kaiosama during the Saiyan Arc.

Goku hospitalized and then in space for much of the Namek/Freeza Arc.

Goku in a coma for everything in the Androids arc up until Cell. Then it's all Gohan anyway.

Goku trying to stay dead in the Boo Arc.

The entire series has revolved around their one, critical character not being there for, I would say 50% of it, then showing up to save the day. Hell, this even happened in the BoG Arc and the Universe 6 Arc.

You're certainly entitled not to enjoy it, though, for sure. I just tend to scratch my head when people say too much Goku is bad for the show. Half of the time he isn't even involved.

You just mostly described Z. Z didn't have too much Goku. Super has had too much Goku. Simple. And why people like characters to get time to shine? People like seeing their favorite characters being relevant and doing cool things instead of only one character doing cool things. Also simple. Honestly it's all pretty simple. I don't know why it's so hard to comprehend for so many people.

[MajinMan]

This is stupid. It's not even the Freeza thing, really. It's the way that they keep writing Buu out of the story. "Oh, he fell asleep again." Good shit, Toriyama/Toei. You just COULDN'T get a little more creative than that, could you? I can already see the role Freeza might play in this arc. He's going to agree, then fight against Frost, and then backstab his team by knocking a member out, causing Team Universe 7 to remove him from the ring before he causes more trouble. If by some miracle they do something completely unexpected with him, then I can let this blatant Freeza fanservice slide.

[EXBadguy]

Why not brining Cell as well? Holz shit I'm so mad...

Poor Buu

Because with Piccolo, Vegeta, Frieza, Buu and even #17 all being stronger then him these day....Cell is pretty much the Yamcha of the cannon villains now.

Then he can train...JUST LIKE FRIEZA did, and then Frieza would be right back at the bottom.

[ekrolo2]

Bringing back Freeza makes a lot of practical sense since he remains in the top five strongest guys in their universe and the stakes are big enough I can see them resorting to this. It's total bull Boo has to go though, Roshi is a worthless ant and has no business being here. None the humans do and you can't convince Goten and Trunks are more wild and uncooperative than frickin Freeza.

[Totamo]

I can't believe this. Well, its good to see Toriyama has not lost his ability to troll. He knew this would piss us off and thats probably why he did it and I knew it would be Buu.


The worst part, is that it makes sense. From a power standpoint, which most of the powerscaling fuckers have been complaining about, Freeza is the most powerful nongod after Goku and Vegeta. Thanks, guys. Are you fucking happy now?!

From a merchandise standpoint, Freeza is the most popular villain in the franchise. His movie is the best selling dragon ball movie of all time. So I get that. Anime has to make money, dragon ball has to make money and it does. I get that.



If anyone has yet to learn, that super is nothing more than a cashgrab meant to sell toys, cards and dlc look no forward. The manga does it too, with the damn super saiyan god vegeta.


We need to accept what Dragon ball is now or leave it. Let's see Toriyama. Lets see how you can make another bad idea work, you did it all the time back in the old days, androids being stronger than the galactic emperor, gohan becoming the most powerful character by sitting on his ass, a stupid dance to make people powerful and earing powerups.


You are a master of taking stupid ideas and making them look good. I need you to do it again.


I can't even lie, I didn't see this coming and I was going to leave super for a month to binge these episodes but fuck all that, no no no. I want to see this, I want toEXPERIENCE this from beginning to end, because this is the dumbest idea this man has ever had and I want to see how he executes this.

[Kishido]

I bet Beerus will warn him not to screw them or he will hakai his ass in an instant

[Kanassa]

The problem with Frieza's prior returns is that they were basically always hte same damn thing. Frieza is back, and he's more powerful than ev- Oh, he's dead already. Shit.
I'm not gonna lie, him being forced to work with the people he hates? THAT'S a unique twist AND is a good reason to actually bring him back. So far, this isn't simply a rehash of his other returns, it's actually going somewhere; it has the possibility of adding a lot to the arc.

I can already see the running joke of Frieza being extremely petty and having Goku and Vegeta keep him in line.

[SansrivaaL]

I remember back in the earlier days people were complaining that why not take in Freeza? as his golden form introduced he was above SSJB if it wasnt for his stamina problems he woulda won, but now people see's it as something bad when in reality its logical to take him, they lost someone powerful so replace that powerful character with another powerful one, Boo isnt effective in team plays as well, Freeza fits that spot too, they basically just replaced a solo fighter with another solo fighter, but just more powerful, they cant all be solo fighters so changing Roshi or Tien would kinda destroy the built up teamwork that is for some reason effective now.

[Simere]

Why not brining Cell as well? Holz shit I'm so mad...

Poor Buu

Because with Piccolo, Vegeta, Frieza, Buu and even #17 all being stronger then him these day....Cell is pretty much the Yamcha of the cannon villains now.

Then he can train...JUST LIKE FRIEZA did, and then Frieza would be right back at the bottom.

There'll be no time to train, even if they go in the RoSaT.

Then again, Gohan might go from Ultimate to SSB in 9 hours, so what do I know.

[Kishido]

Btw why don't the put Buu into RoSaT to wake up

[Totamo]

This outrage seems very similar to the "Female broly" fiasco. But people seem to like her now. (or them I guess). Same thing with Goku Black. I'm just saying, maybe we should wait it out before we start blowing things up.

I know Freeza seems to get a lot of screen time now, but it's still the same response from fans. Outrage over something that hasn't happened yet and we have no details on. Criticism is valid but the anger is always so jarring no matter how many times I see it.

Of course, people are going to jump the gun. Its a bad idea but really thats all it is until we see it or read it, you can't really judge until it happens.



People were pissed about female broly, look at all the praise she gets and she hasn't even done anything yet.

[Boo Machine]

Btw why don't the put Buu into RoSaT to wake up

I guess it depends on how soon the tournament is when they find this out. If it's too close, then they wouldn't have enough time even with the chamber. 4 hours would be 2 months, I think, and next episode already starts with only 9 left.

[Simere]

Btw why don't the put Buu into RoSaT to wake up

I guess it depends on how soon the tournament is when they find this out. If it's too close, then they wouldn't have enough time even with the chamber. 4 hours would be 2 months i think and next episode already starts with only 9 left.

Does Boo sleep for months on end?

[Boo Machine]

Btw why don't the put Buu into RoSaT to wake up

I guess it depends on how soon the tournament is when they find this out. If it's too close, then they wouldn't have enough time even with the chamber. 4 hours would be 2 months i think and next episode already starts with only 9 left.

Does Boo sleep for months on end?

The episode summary says he won't wake up for 2 months. So I guess he does.