"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Lapislettuce]

I'm sure that the people who are againts the idea including me just love Frieza a lot as a villain and it will be awkward to see him fight on the good side but i'm waay too curious to see how this plays out so it's not bothering me one bit.

[MagmonKai]

Has anyone else realized that this Frieza stuff got announced the same week Alien Covenant is coming out?

Is that movie out already?

[jeffbr92]

You know, I'm wondering did any of you remember the dislike for Vegeta when he first joined the cast? Maybe Toriyama just wants Freeza to join the crew. Replace Majin Buu...how interesting that dynamic would be. Now that Vegeta has gone soft we need an unpredictable, unreliable ally...this is a bold move. I want to see how this plays out!

There was none, the only reason why Vegeta was not left killed on Namek was because of his popularity.

[MagmonKai]

You know, I'm wondering did any of you remember the dislike for Vegeta when he first joined the cast? Maybe Toriyama just wants Freeza to join the crew. Replace Majin Buu...how interesting that dynamic would be. Now that Vegeta has gone soft we need an unpredictable, unreliable ally...this is a bold move. I want to see how this plays out!

There was none, the only reason why Vegeta was not left killed on Namek was because of his popularity.

Well, Freeza is certainly popular, perhaps that's why he's been used so much this series?

[Lord Frieza]

Has anyone else realized that this Frieza stuff got announced the same week Alien Covenant is coming out?

Is that movie out already?

This Friday UK side.

[namekiansaiyan]

I am going to say that Frieza actually knows Frost and they are rivals and that is why Frieza agrees.

Is the news on Goku day going to be Frieza returning?.

[perucho1990]

Toriyama must hate Majin Buu. There's no other reason.
Forget bringing Freeza back, why replace Buu and not Roshi or Tenshinhan?! Seriously Roshi doesn't even make sense to be there, no matter how much excuses they come up with.

Buu was sleeping in ROF, failed to enter in Champa's tournament and now he's sleeping again. If the exhibition matches were a Toei thing, they probably smelled the bullshit of this and decided to give something to Buu's fans. Just like the SSB+Kaioken, Fit Buu is also most likely a Toei thing. I hope he at least keeps that as a transformation.

But Toei is also to blame though. What's all that promotion with the 10 warriors of Universe 7? They even did a recent video hyping each member and once again, Buu was there too.
At this point Toriyama should just suggest the team and let Toei have the final word and do their own thing. I doubt Toei would pull off the same card twice.

Toriyama's involvement is a double edged sword. He still creates awesome characters like no one and keeps Toei/Toyotaro in check, but the worst ideas also came from him - Freeza revive and die in the same Movie/arc, Gohan not going to the Tournament because he had a conference, Buu sacrificed by a gag, Frost turn out to be another evil guy from Freeza race, Piccolo told to back off by Vegeta without complaining, Monaka wasting a spot as a gag character...

Toei is also bringing more interesting plotlines to the table. BOG and FT Trunks arc were suggestions from them.
ROF, Champa arc and Universe Survival arc came directly from Toriyama. A old villain revival and two tournaments.

This is ridiculous. Freeza is my favourite villain ever, and even so I don't want to see him ever again.

I'm curious if this arc will be just the beginning of something bigger like the Buu arc, because the tournament will just be 48 minutes. What will Freeza do after that?! He will have a 24 hour license, like Goku had in Buu arc and that was longgg.

Hopefully they pull it off and ROF main plot finally leads to somewhere. This also may open new doors to both Freeza's and Frost's characters and may create some internal conflict between U7 team, because not everyone will be okay with this decision.

I already mentioned it before, but it should be with just Toyotaro being the main writer of DBS, and then the Dragon Ball Room are his filter/editors, its the perfect combo because Toriyama only cares about gags and nothing else.

I know Toei isnt 100% perfect but besides Anime Black, I liked how they have redeemed Gohan, who went from the biggest joke in the show to a respected top tier fighter.

[LightBing]

Why would it matter to Freeza if the Universe is destroyed? He's living his worst nightmare, the destruction of the Universe would mean his release into nothingness. I expect him to betray his own team. It's the only thing that makes sense to me, bar new information.

By the way glad Urunai Baba is back. Maybe she'll give us a juicy prediction.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Soo random question but considering we were told recently only 28 planets have life...how many could those poachers really be poaching from...and if they steal from everyone who are they selling to....

[HybridSaiyan]

I'm sure that the people who are againts the idea including me just love Frieza a lot as a villain and it will be awkward to see him fight on the good side but i'm waay too curious to see how this plays out so it's not bothering me one bit.

I want Frieza as a Z-Warrior, this will turn almost everyone off Super.
But what the heck, let him join the crew and they could all laugh and be friendly together because the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP CONQUERS ALL. Why not let Krillin and Frieza have a drink at Master Roshi's? It'll sure be a nice laugh.

[Lord Frieza]

Why would it matter to Freeza if the Universe is destroyed? He's living his worst nightmare, the destruction of the Universe would mean his release into nothingness. I expect him to betray his own team. It's the only thing that makes sense to me, bar new information.

By the way glad Urunai Baba is back. Maybe she'll give us a juicy prediction.

Well thats up to Goku, can he make an offer that will make Frieza care?

[jeffbr92]

Well, Freeza is certainly popular, perhaps that's why he's been used so much this series?

We all get it Freeza is popular and the number #1 villain of the franchise, the problem is that overusing him ruins his character

[MagmonKai]

Why would it matter to Freeza if the Universe is destroyed? He's living his worst nightmare, the destruction of the Universe would mean his release into nothingness. I expect him to betray his own team. It's the only thing that makes sense to me, bar new information.

By the way glad Urunai Baba is back. Maybe she'll give us a juicy prediction.

Goku most likely won't tell him about the destruction of the universe.

[MagmonKai]

Well, Freeza is certainly popular, perhaps that's why he's been used so much this series?

We all get it Freeza is popular and the number #1 villain of the franchise, the problem is that overusing him ruins his character

How is he being over used? He's a character in the story, you can't be over used can you? Is Goku over used? Vegeta? Beerus? By the way haven't Goku died and been resurrected like a gazillion times too?

[namekiansaiyan]

I'm sure that the people who are againts the idea including me just love Frieza a lot as a villain and it will be awkward to see him fight on the good side but i'm waay too curious to see how this plays out so it's not bothering me one bit.

I want Frieza as a Z-Warrior, this will turn almost everyone off Super.
But what the heck, let him join the crew and they could all laugh and be friendly together because the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP CONQUERS ALL. Why not let Krillin and Frieza have a drink at Master Roshi's? It'll sure be a nice laugh.

I don't like someone intruding into the team and stealing screen time and fights from other characters.

[Lapislettuce]

I'm sure that the people who are againts the idea including me just love Frieza a lot as a villain and it will be awkward to see him fight on the good side but i'm waay too curious to see how this plays out so it's not bothering me one bit.

I want Frieza as a Z-Warrior, this will turn almost everyone off Super.
But what the heck, let him join the crew and they could all laugh and be friendly together because the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP CONQUERS ALL. Why not let Krillin and Frieza have a drink at Master Roshi's? It'll sure be a nice laugh.

I don't like someone intruding into the team and stealing screen time and fights from other characters.

Translation: "I only want my favorite character to have cool fights and screen time."

[GodKaio-Ken]

Well, Freeza is certainly popular, perhaps that's why he's been used so much this series?

We all get it Freeza is popular and the number #1 villain of the franchise, the problem is that overusing him ruins his character

How is he being over used? He's a character in the story, you can't be over used can you? Is Goku over used? Vegeta? Beerus? By the way haven't Goku died and been resurrected like a gazillion times too?

I really dont see why people cant see the fate of the universe would trump a petty rivalry at least momentarily.

Not to mention...imagine youre in hell. Someone says you can leave for a day. You do it. I dont care how much you hate them...its hell....you leave.

[jeffbr92]

How is he being over used? He's a character in the story, you can't be over used can you? Is Goku over used? Vegeta? Beerus? By the way haven't Goku died and been resurrected like a gazillion times too?

Are you seriously making this comparison man? Goku, Vegeta and Beerus are part of the main cast, they are main characters, protagonists, Freeza is a villain, an antagonist. The whole concept of a villain that was defeated in the past to return is old and lazy IMO and that is the 8th or 9th time Freeza returns in the franchise, that's what I call overused, there's no need of that, I could take it if they did something satisfying in RoF like not having him alive again to be killed again, but that was not the case.

[precita]

Well, Freeza is certainly popular, perhaps that's why he's been used so much this series?

We all get it Freeza is popular and the number #1 villain of the franchise, the problem is that overusing him ruins his character

How is he being over used? He's a character in the story, you can't be over used can you? Is Goku over used? Vegeta? Beerus? By the way haven't Goku died and been resurrected like a gazillion times too?

We don't need villains constantly coming back from the dead.

Villains die, their story is over. Freeza already came back several times.

[Lord Frieza]

We all get it Freeza is popular and the number #1 villain of the franchise, the problem is that overusing him ruins his character

How is he being over used? He's a character in the story, you can't be over used can you? Is Goku over used? Vegeta? Beerus? By the way haven't Goku died and been resurrected like a gazillion times too?

We don't need villains constantly coming back from the dead.

Villains die, their story is over. Freeza already came back several times.

Marvel, DC and other western comic suggest otherwise.