"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kanassa]

So #91 looks like it's gonna be a recap-ish epsidoe then. I think we will start the ToP on #95.

That doesn't seem like a recap episode, it seems more like an excuse to explain the major players of the other teams.

[Lord Frieza]

So #91 looks like it's gonna be a recap-ish epsidoe then. I think we will start the ToP on #95.

I dont think its just a recap, they say "all the universes" so hopefully we get to see them all for a bit. Also I'm guessing thats gonna be the big revel for a lot of the fighters.

[SansrivaaL]

Watch the people who complained about 17 fighting SSB say nothing about Gohan getting ssb tier in a couple of hours because of "potential" (not talking about those who didn't complain so don't get triggered)

You sure have a habbit of repeating this everytime some of us or as I noticed when everytime I'm talking about it. SSJB>Ultimate>SSJ3 unlike 17's situation where SSJB>17>SSJ3>SSJ2>SSJ>17 (Cell Saga) 17's jump were massive, Gohan's jump was 1.

EDIT wait no Gohan didnt jump any level, its not like he's on par with SSJB or above it so he stays in the same tier.

[Draconic]

If we do get an introduction to other fighters from the unseen universes doesn't it mean next week the Toei site should update? It always does before the show introduces new contestants.

[Lapislettuce]

Watch the people who complained about 17 fighting SSB say nothing about Gohan getting ssb tier in a couple of hours because of "potential" (not talking about those who didn't complain so don't get triggered)

You sure have a habbit of repeating this everytime some of us or as I noticed when everytime I'm talking about it. SSJB>Ultimate>SSJ3 unlike 17's situation where SSJB>17>SSJ3>SSJ2>SSJ>17 (Cell Saga) 17's jump were massive, Gohan's jump was 1.

EDIT wait no Gohan didnt jump any level, its not like he's on par with SSJB or above it so he stays in the same tier.

But you can't compare we had an idea about Gohan's powers in buu saga but we didn't also they're different beings they probably don't gain strength the same way,Trunks kept up with his training but Gohan just gained his mystic form recently,i really don't mind him getting stronger though i just see how the fandom gives him a pass everytime he jumps a huge power gap just like that but find it "weird" when another character who has been gone for a decade gets just as strong.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So #91 looks like it's gonna be a recap-ish epsidoe then. I think we will start the ToP on #95.

That doesn't seem like a recap episode, it seems more like an excuse to explain the major players of the other teams.

Yeah that's why I put "'ish" it basically looks like it is gonna serve as one.

[perucho1990]

So #91 looks like it's gonna be a recap-ish epsidoe then. I think we will start the ToP on #95.

Not really, its more like we will get to know more about the characters that appeared in the opening like Smug Fox, teletubbie, Dahmon, and also who will be the top dogs in each of the Universes aside from U6,U7,U11.

And also I hope we get to know more about Daishinkan, he seems to have the last word over Zeno.

[incarnati0n]

Watch the people who complained about 17 fighting SSB say nothing about Gohan getting ssb tier in a couple of hours because of "potential" (not talking about those who didn't complain so don't get triggered)

You sure have a habbit of repeating this everytime some of us or as I noticed when everytime I'm talking about it. SSJB>Ultimate>SSJ3 unlike 17's situation where SSJB>17>SSJ3>SSJ2>SSJ>17 (Cell Saga) 17's jump were massive, Gohan's jump was 1.

EDIT wait no Gohan didnt jump any level, its not like he's on par with SSJB or above it so he stays in the same tier.

But you can't compare we had an idea about Gohan's powers in buu saga but we didn't also they're different beings they probably don't gain strength the same way,Trunks kept up with his training but Gohan just gained his mystic form recently,i really don't mind him getting stronger though i just see how the fandom gives him a pass everytime he jumps a huge power gap just like that but find it "weird" when another character who has been gone for a decade gets just as strong.

Except that we have precedent with Gohan of this happening, so in-universe it isn't a huge stretch for it to happen again while in 17s case we had no evidence of great potential apart from an interview from toriyama where he said the androids could get stronger.
Besides that, Gohan know what level he is trying to shoot for, this is something that has been exemplified before in the show, once someone reaches a certain level it is easier for others to reach it too, examples of this are the human after training with Kami becoming way stronger than Goku was after his training with him, the other saiyans becoming ssj after Gopku did it and then becoming ssj2 after Gohan unlocked it. That is why for me 17s power up is kind of bs, because he had no idea of what level to shoot for and just stumble onto god level while training alone in the wild. Sure it's a good number of years but it's not like he had been fighting someone around his level during that time.

[HeroR]

That was before they were chums, and he was desperately looking for the SSG he had a goal, unlike their fight after the U6, situations were different, he wasnt looking for anyone in particular and just wants to break loose, he was playing around.
Yes I absolutely do not have a problem with it because they were from my views playing around, Beerus wasnt serious at all and base Goku obviously has enough striking power to cause the earth go boom, its not like Whis said "The universe will get destroyed if you continue this"

Gohan had no problem? it looked like he was having quite a hard time and was even sweating, sweat in anime usually means it isnt an easy time for him, Goku had trouble from the get go because Krillin released kienzan's it wasnt a cqc unlike Gohan's and Krillin's it was plain melee combat until Krillin pulled out the solar flare.
The part with Boo could be Goku wanting to test out how his base form holds out against Boo, or he was putting him in a good mood by not beating him so he lost on purpose not transforming.

Chums or not, Beerus was clearly trying to beat Goku up and was going to take the planet with him. That is despite the same Beerus two-shotted Super Saiyan 3 Goku while looking bored. So you're trying to tell me that he was holding back that much when Whis said that Beerus was excited and he literally had to stop them from fighting? And Goku didn't nearly make the universe go boom when he fought Hit and he was fighting at full power with the Kaioken.

Sweat so much that he kicked Krillin like a rag doll.

And why would Buu want to test Goku? Goku wanted to spar him to see how strong Buu has become. There would be no point to the sparring match if Buu wasn't giving his all so Goku can see how much he's grown. Buu also knows how powerful Goku is, he saw him fight in the Exhibition match. There is literally no reason for Buu to hold back. And since when Goku cares about putting someone in a good mood, especially when he's testing them?

[Kishido]

Piccolo training, 17 poacher training and Roshi secret training >>>>> Whis training

[Lapislettuce]

You sure have a habbit of repeating this everytime some of us or as I noticed when everytime I'm talking about it. SSJB>Ultimate>SSJ3 unlike 17's situation where SSJB>17>SSJ3>SSJ2>SSJ>17 (Cell Saga) 17's jump were massive, Gohan's jump was 1.

EDIT wait no Gohan didnt jump any level, its not like he's on par with SSJB or above it so he stays in the same tier.

But you can't compare we had an idea about Gohan's powers in buu saga but we didn't also they're different beings they probably don't gain strength the same way,Trunks kept up with his training but Gohan just gained his mystic form recently,i really don't mind him getting stronger though i just see how the fandom gives him a pass everytime he jumps a huge power gap just like that but find it "weird" when another character who has been gone for a decade gets just as strong.

Except that we have precedent with Gohan of this happening, so in-universe it isn't a huge stretch for it to happen again while in 17s case we had no evidence of great potential apart from an interview from toriyama where he said the androids could get stronger.
Besides that, Gohan know what level he is trying to shoot for, this is something that has been exemplified before in the show, once someone reaches a certain level it is easier for others to reach it too, examples of this are the human after training with Kami becoming way stronger than Goku was after his training with him, the other saiyans becoming ssj after Gopku did it and then becoming ssj2 after Gohan unlocked it. That is why for me 17s power up is kind of bs, because he had no idea of what level to shoot for and just stumble onto god level while training alone in the wild. Sure it's a good number of years but it's not like he had been fighting someone around his level during that time.

What i'm getting from your whole comment is that it makes perfect sense for someone to get a huge power boost in a couple of hours but it doesn't when another one gets the same power boost in over a decade,you have no idea about 17's training i think we both agree right ? second Gohan hasn't done any impressive training we both know that Goku and Vegeta had to train with Whis to get to the level they are right now so how come it's okay for Gohan to get that level by training for 2 hours in the mountains ? sure you can say "potential" as a whole excuse but Toriyama said 17's potential is enormous too and didn't get the chance to showcase it,so what exacly is your point ? cuz i sadly don't get it,a bs power up is a bs power up even if you like the character you should just admit it.

[incarnati0n]

What i'm getting from your whole comment is that it makes perfect sense for someone to get a huge power boost in a couple of hours but it doesn't when another one gets the same power boost in over a decade,you have no idea about 17's training i think we both agree right ? second Gohan hasn't done any impressive training we both know that Goku and Vegeta had to train with Whis to get to the level they are right now so how come it's okay for Gohan to get that level by training for 2 hours in the mountains ? sure you can say "potential" as a whole excuse but Toriyama said 17's potential is enormous too and didn't get the chance to showcase it,so what exacly is your point ? cuz i sadly don't get it,a bs power up is a bs power up even if you like the character you should just admit it.

What I'm trying to say is that both power-ups have problems, Gohan is too little time and 17 just from a in-universe standpoint comes out of nowhere. Once again I think you didn't really read my post because anyone who criticizes 17 gets the same exact response from you, because if you actually read what I posted you would know that I knowledged that Toriyama had said that 17 could get stronger. But now honestly, tell me something, how do you justify 17 knowing what level of power to shoot for when he had no idea that such a level even existed. The only reason why Goku and Vgeeta got to that level in the first place was thanks to Beerus and Whis, and if Gohan gets to that level now is thanks to having seen Goku and Vegeta perform at it. 17 on the other hand grows in power without even having a clue about what he truly is accomplishing.

ps. I have no problem with 17 getting this powerful if that is what you think I'm saying, I just think it could've been accomplished in a much better way and same with Gohan, for now let's just appreciate the fact that both our favourite characters will hopefully have good roles in this arc since there is no need for having this argument since it really isn't going to contribute nothing to the show, since the harm is already done, or in Gohan's case, it's going to be done this weekend.

[Lapislettuce]

What i'm getting from your whole comment is that it makes perfect sense for someone to get a huge power boost in a couple of hours but it doesn't when another one gets the same power boost in over a decade,you have no idea about 17's training i think we both agree right ? second Gohan hasn't done any impressive training we both know that Goku and Vegeta had to train with Whis to get to the level they are right now so how come it's okay for Gohan to get that level by training for 2 hours in the mountains ? sure you can say "potential" as a whole excuse but Toriyama said 17's potential is enormous too and didn't get the chance to showcase it,so what exacly is your point ? cuz i sadly don't get it,a bs power up is a bs power up even if you like the character you should just admit it.

What I'm trying to say is that both power-ups have problems, Gohan is too little time and 17 just from a in-universe standpoint comes out of nowhere. Once again I think you didn't really read my post because anyone who criticizes 17 gets the same exact response from you, because if you actually read what I posted you would know that I knowledged that Toriyama had said that 17 could get stronger. But now honestly, tell me something, how do you justify 17 knowing what level of power to shoot for when he had no idea that such a level even existed. The only reason why Goku and Vgeeta got to that level in the first place was thanks to Beerus and Whis, and if Gohan gets to that level now is thanks to having seen Goku and Vegeta perform at it. 17 on the other hand show in power without even having a clue about what he truly is accomplishing.

ps. I have no problem with 17 getting this powerful if that is what you think I'm saying, I just think it could've been accomplished in a much better way and same with Gohan, for now let's just appreciate the fact that both our favourite characters will hopefully have good roles in this arc since there is no need for having this argument since it really isn't going to contribute nothing to the show, since the harm is already done, or in Gohan's case, it's going to be done this weekend.

I did read your whole previous comment though and it just came across like you were justifying Gohan and calling 17's power up BS sorry if i got the wrong idea,i just think that 17's training is complete mystery and he shouldn't really be compared to Goku,Vegeta or Gohan's training since we know how saiyans get stronger in general we've never had an artificial human train before especially for such a long time so even if 17 didn't know what power up he aiming for he could still surpass it without realising it oe comparing himself to someone else,we're talking about a being that doesn't get tired and never gets out of stamina and energy,and yes i know you're aware that Toriyama said 17 and 18 could train i just said that he specifically said that 17 has an enormous potential so maybe his strength will be explained later on ? and again i'm not mad at Gohan's power up lol just calling the double standard because i can't help it sorry :/

[SansrivaaL]

Chums or not, Beerus was clearly trying to beat Goku up and was going to take the planet with him. That is despite the same Beerus two-shotted Super Saiyan 3 Goku while looking bored. So you're trying to tell me that he was holding back that much when Whis said that Beerus was excited and he literally had to stop them from fighting? And Goku didn't nearly make the universe go boom when he fought Hit and he was fighting at full power with the Kaioken.

Sweat so much that he kicked Krillin like a rag doll.

And why would Buu want to test Goku? Goku wanted to spar him to see how strong Buu has become. There would be no point to the sparring match if Buu wasn't giving his all so Goku can see how much he's grown. Buu also knows how powerful Goku is, he saw him fight in the Exhibition match. There is literally no reason for Buu to hold back. And since when Goku cares about putting someone in a good mood, especially when he's testing them?

No he was clearly playing around with him laughing like an idiot, unlike their previous encounters. Yeah he was holding back that much because if he wasnt then there would have been no trace of U7 left.
Yes Whis had to stop them because they may destroy the earth, is that wrong? even if they are just playin around that still has enough power to destroy the earth from their clash. There was Vados' improved shield.

Still showed sweat and was getting combo'd by Krillin.

Goku's the one testing Boo, I take it as he wanted to know where his base stands against Fit Boo and was just testing Boo if he can follow the rules of not killing.

[SansrivaaL]

Watch the people who complained about 17 fighting SSB say nothing about Gohan getting ssb tier in a couple of hours because of "potential" (not talking about those who didn't complain so don't get triggered)

You sure have a habbit of repeating this everytime some of us or as I noticed when everytime I'm talking about it. SSJB>Ultimate>SSJ3 unlike 17's situation where SSJB>17>SSJ3>SSJ2>SSJ>17 (Cell Saga) 17's jump were massive, Gohan's jump was 1.

EDIT wait no Gohan didnt jump any level, its not like he's on par with SSJB or above it so he stays in the same tier.

But you can't compare we had an idea about Gohan's powers in buu saga but we didn't also they're different beings they probably don't gain strength the same way,Trunks kept up with his training but Gohan just gained his mystic form recently,i really don't mind him getting stronger though i just see how the fandom gives him a pass everytime he jumps a huge power gap just like that but find it "weird" when another character who has been gone for a decade gets just as strong.

We're not exactly giving him a pass, the reason why almost no one is complaining about Gohan's is because his form isnt exactly how the others works, Ultimate is a form where it just unlocks his potential, it doesnt get rusty, he just needs to re unlock it. There's no problem if 17 gets strong, they can have him stronger than SSJBKK for all I care that would just make Goku happier, but having him jump 3 freaking SSJ levels just from this comment "Its not like I was just sitting around" and poof instantly Low God tier level? wth haha.

[dbzfan7]

Wow so Gohan will be fighting SSJB Goku...I guess he got so sick of bullshit power ups, he decided to pull out what may be if this is the case, the biggest bullshit of all XD.

At this point just because he's been put through such garbage for most of his screen time til as of late, it's covering my BS alert even if it totally feels like it. My logic and fanboy sides are duking it out as I speak. I guess it's gonna be like Episode 66 for me. Awesome but incredibly stupid shit.

[Lapislettuce]

Wow so Gohan will be fighting SSJB Goku...I guess he got so sick of bullshit power ups, he decided to pull out what may be if this is the case, the biggest bullshit of all XD.

At this point just because he's been put through such garbage for most of his screen time til as of late, it's covering my BS alert even if it totally feels like it. My logic and fanboy sides are duking it out as I speak. I guess it's gonna be like Episode 66 for me. Awesome but incredibly stupid shit.

Speaking of episode 66 were people complaining here ? i wasn't a part of this site back then.

[HeroR]

No he was clearly playing around with him laughing like an idiot, unlike their previous encounters. Yeah he was holding back that much because if he wasnt then there would have been no trace of U7 left.
Yes Whis had to stop them because they may destroy the earth, is that wrong? even if they are just playin around that still has enough power to destroy the earth from their clash. There was Vados' improved shield.

Still showed sweat and was getting combo'd by Krillin.

Goku's the one testing Boo, I take it as he wanted to know where his base stands against Fit Boo and was just testing Boo if he can follow the rules of not killing.

Beerus was playing around too with Super Saiyan 3 Goku. So that doesn't work. And Vados shield only protected the audience and it broke several times.

Sweating doesn't mean he's working hard. Especially after he kicked Krillin around.

He didn't want to know where his base stood. He specifically said he wanted to test Buu to see how strong he has become. That would be ruined if Buu was holding back and why would he? Buu knows Goku is much stronger than him. He also wasn't trying to see if he could follow rules since that didn't even come up until the middle of the fight when Goku complimented him.

[Boo Machine]

Speaking of episode 66 were people complaining here ? i wasn't a part of this site back then.

Oh it was an absolute shit storm. One of those things the fans were really divided on for a good while.

[Lapislettuce]

Speaking of episode 66 were people complaining here ? i wasn't a part of this site back then.

Oh it was an absolute shit storm. One of those things the fans were really divided on for a good while.

I thought future Trunks was so popular that people gave him a pass lol