According to the movie, the Super Saiyan God appeared in planet Vegeta, not in Salada. This was removed on Super though, so it doesn't matter.Zelvin wrote:The thing about SSG, was that, from what we were already told, it was created and used by a group of Saiyans that disagreed with and separated themselves from their violent brethren, and created the SSG in order to stop them. Unfortunately, either we follow that he just ran out of time with the form, or the resulting conflict is what caused the destruction of Planet Salada in the 7th universe to begin with. Resulting in the Saiyans abandoning their homeworld and finding their way to the thusly renamed Planet Vegeta.
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Yeah, I doubt she is the definitive big bad, but for now it seems to me as if she is the one pulling the strings. Would be interesting to know what is the background to Whis-Vados. I mean, they are so outrageously strong compared to everyone else. How on earth did they achieve such power levels? Is it a race? What is their role? Just train the God of Destruction? Anyway, definitely my interest is picking upDainIronfoot wrote:A lot of people have speculated that, and while I'll admit i do sense a different feeling towards her than Whis, i don't think she will end up being the big bad one. Now, there's a possibility that maybe Champa and Vados are in coalition perhaps with another Haikishin and they're planning something...? There could be so many different possibilities!marcbret87 wrote:Even with the lack of details, I must say that so far I have been enjoying the manga much more than the anime. I guess that is because the anime so far has just been a re-hash of the two movies with poorer animation and hasn't even showed us how Goku/Vegeta reached SSB. In any case, let's hope it picks up and
As far as the current argument goes, given the amount of hinting done with Champa/Vados, it seems clear to me that the Universal Tournament is acting as a cover-up and will set up the "real" arc. For some reason, it seems to me the real big bad is Vados.
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With the latest episode there does seem to be something suspicious about her, the way she reacted when Champa told Beerus about the wish orbs. Then again if she was truly the big bad then why wait this long? Whis seemed pretty comfortable alongside her.
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You found that suspicious? Huh. I interpreted it as her being offended because she was the one to go through all the trouble of gathering the six balls they have, at least from what I know, and now Champa just wagers them all like they're nothing special.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:...the way she reacted when Champa told Beerus about the wish orbs.
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return of super vegetto? super blue vegetto ?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:if she was truly the big bad then
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After rewatched the episode, there are actually a few moments where Whis does look at her like (-.-)?. Though I think it's probably because they came unannounced and ruined his tea time. However, I'd actually agree that the way she reacted to Champa's mentioning of the SDB'S was interesting. I don't think it's because she went through the trouble of gathering them. The tone and look in her face told me that she was trying to say "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? THAT'S NOT THE PLAN!"Alruneia wrote:You found that suspicious? Huh. I interpreted it as her being offended because she was the one to go through all the trouble of gathering the six balls they have, at least from what I know, and now Champa just wagers them all like they're nothing special.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:...the way she reacted when Champa told Beerus about the wish orbs.Maybe that's just me?
All said though, I still don't think she will be the big bad, but I will be surprised if she ends being it.
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No return for Vegetto,but the birth of Champa x Beerus potara fusion.apex_pretador wrote:return of super vegetto? super blue vegetto ?
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Ah no how would beerus n champa fusion design look a muscular cat that exactly looks like beerus, it won't be something new since they are twins.....SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:No return for Vegetto,but the birth of Champa x Beerus potara fusion.apex_pretador wrote:return of super vegetto? super blue vegetto ?
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They would have a Super Boo type body.Ssgvegito30 wrote:Ah no how would beerus n champa fusion design look a muscular cat that exactly looks like beerus, it won't be something new since they are twins.....
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That's what I mean a muscular cat since super buu was muscular it won't look different when fat buu became super but they both looked different you could see super buus eyes, what would look different about chamrus lol except his size
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Nope,they can still look different.Super 17 for example.Ssgvegito30 wrote:That's what I mean a muscular cat since super buu was muscular it won't look different when fat buu became super but they both looked different you could see super buus eyes, what would look different about chamrus lol except his size
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Maybe a new outfit on upper body what else 17 had hair once they fused together he had bigger hair, beers and champa they both are hairless cats will chamrus have hair to make it look different lolSSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Nope,they can still look different.Super 17 for example.Ssgvegito30 wrote:That's what I mean a muscular cat since super buu was muscular it won't look different when fat buu became super but they both looked different you could see super buus eyes, what would look different about chamrus lol except his size
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-Frost tranformations and Zarama character design-
It would be a good suprise if Frost turn out to have different transformations from Freeza, but after the God forms and Golden Freeza, the chances of that happening are almost negative.
Zarama character design, in other hand:
It would be a good suprise if Frost turn out to have different transformations from Freeza, but after the God forms and Golden Freeza, the chances of that happening are almost negative.
Zarama character design, in other hand:
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I do hope the Dragon from the Super Dragon Balls does turn out be bigger than the Super DBs, but can change his height if necessary(which it would obviously be unless they find some way of communicating with a being bigger than a planet).
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Isn't Zarama the original one ? or did he forget about that already ?Toriyama wrote:With the Shenlong on Planet Namek (Porunga), I figured that since this was the original one, he should look even more incredible… I wanted him to be on a whole different level.
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The interview was done in October 2015...sintzu wrote: Isn't Zarama the original one ? or did he forget about that already ?
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It's perhaps understandable he wouldn't be bringing that up just yet, as the dragon from the SDBs has yet to be revealed.sintzu wrote:Isn't Zarama the original one ? or did he forget about that already ?Toriyama wrote:With the Shenlong on Planet Namek (Porunga), I figured that since this was the original one, he should look even more incredible… I wanted him to be on a whole different level.
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Thing is, from what was said in the manga, Zarama created the SDB's, and he is the Dragon God. All other sets of dragon balls were created by Namekians that summon dragons, which're much like imitations of the originals. The difference being that only the SDB's were actually created by a Dragon. I have said it before, but I believe very much that Zarama will be the one to be summoned when both sets of Super Dragon Balls are together. It would be kinda dumb to mention the character and then never have him show up. Like, saying Guru created the Namekian balls and say he's loafing around, and then never actually show him.dbgtFO wrote: It's perhaps understandable he wouldn't be bringing that up just yet, as the dragon from the SDBs has yet to be revealed.
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Dragon Ball doesn't talk about characters that won't never appear, as far I remember. Zarama will definitely appear and there's only one Super DB left to make it happen.
Even Monaka appeared, when we all assumed Beerus was talking about Whis being the strongest guy he ever fought.
Even Monaka appeared, when we all assumed Beerus was talking about Whis being the strongest guy he ever fought.
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I'm thinking Frost should be able to transform but can't for some reason. This could also link to my previous idea that, maybe, he's in a position he doesn't really want to be (Emperor) and he ended up different than the other members of his species.FortuneSSJ wrote:-Frost tranformations and Zarama character design-
It would be a good suprise if Frost turn out to have different transformations from Freeza, but after the God forms and Golden Freeza, the chances of that happening are almost negative.









