Saiga wrote:shonenhikada wrote:
Yet he shows up to the cell games, and actually tries to take a swing at cell when he goes for the senzu beans. I interpret Piccolo's statement as realizing he's facing someone on a higher celestial order and more important than he is, but not necessarily more powerful. Also think about it this way, if supreme kai were so powerful that Piccolo knew he was beat, his power would have been felt by Goku,Vegeta, Krillin who were standing like 10 feet away. Yet both Goku, and Vegeta have to ask how strong he is.
So did the humans, and they were clearly terrified of Cell. Besides, Kaioshin reacting differently to a Cell tier opponent doesn't make him weaker, it just makes him a different personality. And why would Goku and Vegeta ask Piccolo how strong he was if they thought Piccolo couldn't tell?
The poiint was that piccolo actually has the ball to attack cell in a death area, yet forfeits to kai-o-shin in a budokai contest where there is no killing, and who is weaker than cell, don't you find that quite strange seeing that Cell is stronger than kai-o-shin.
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P10.2
Context: as Piccolo and Kaioshin's match begins
Vegeta: “We’ll finally know: just how much is his battle power, which we haven’t even been able to estimate?...”
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P10.3
Piccolo: “Wh-why…is it so hard for me to fight him?...Ev-Even though I've only just met him…”
(Obvious Intervention by Kami playing on Piccolo body)
Chapter:439 (DBZ 245), P12.1)
*Piccolo forfeits to Kai-o-shin*
Kaioshin : "I see he use to be this worlds Kami, he's starting to see who i really am"
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P12.3-4
Context: after Piccolo resigns from his and Kaioshin's match
Goku: “That much, Piccolo?...”
Piccolo: “Yeah…Our dimensions…are too different…”
Kuririn: “Yo-you’re kidding, right? Stop joking around! I-I’ve got to fight him next.”
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To me i find it strange when some people say Kai-oshin is stronger from these instances. For one In order for Piccolo to asses this he would have had to have felt some of kai-o-shin ki or enough of it to believe that he was indeed out of his league, yet if that was the case then both Goku, Krillin, Vegeta would have been able to determine how strong he was, and Goku wouldn't have had to ask the question.
In short its like finding out your matched up against Jesus, who has greater role, and importance than you are so whether your physical stronger,than him in his mortal form or not is irrelevant, and you bow out as a sign of respect. This whole scene seems to be Piccolo being aware that he is facing someone who has more importance to the universe than he does and so bows out as a sign of respect having kami's knowledge of him. Its like basically going to a fighting tournament on weekend and getting matched up against your boss in short, whether you can beat him or not is irrelevant all that matters is that you don't want to be in the unemployment lines by monday.
