The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Rocketman]

This is what my argument hinges on. If Bardock is 10,000 even, that makes him somewhat stronger than either the anime or the manga version of Goku who fought Vegeta in his base form, so we can look to that for an example of how a one-on-one battle between Vegeta and Bardock might conceivably go.

Vegeta smacked regular Goku down without breaking a sweat. Even Kaioken x2 Goku was beaten with ease.

There's strength in numbers.

Not when they're outclassed as much as they would be by Vegeta.

[In Brightest Day]

Vegeta sits back and relaxes as Bardock and his crew make short work of Raditz & the Cultivars. Nappa puts up an OK fight and while Vegeta's coaching helps some what, he eventually goes down with medium difficulty. Then Vegeta steps in and kills them in a matter of moments. Well, Bardock probably last long enough to take a beating, but the rest are toast. Burnt toast.

[hleV]

If Bardock healed his injuries which he had when going against Freeza, then Vegeta might have problems. In any case I don't know how much canon the movie of Bardock is, I believe Toriyama said he liked it, that's all.

[CatouttaHell]

SSjin Goku (End of Z) vs. Innocent Boo

[Rocketman]

Innocent Buu is Mr. Buu/the fat one that Kid Buu spat up, right? Goku gets his shit wrecked. Even if by some stupid measure he trained enough on Earth with no willing partners to get up there, he wouldn't be able to summon enough force to defeat Buu.

[Kaboom]

Well, based on the whole power meter thing with Gohan's SSj2 energy, for a while I've figured that Fat Boo was roughly about twice as strong as SSj2 Goku or Vegeta. But then he presumably lost more than half his power when he expelled his evil side, right? So that alone would at least bring him down to SSj2 Goku's level already, assuming that's the Boo we're talking about. And if SSj3 Goku was even with Kid Boo and able to take him out with a big enough attack, I'd assume SSj2 Goku could do the same with Mister Boo. Another 10 years of even casual Earth-training, and it'd be easier.

[dbgtFO]

Team Bardock:

Bardock
Toma
Selypa
Totepo
Panbukin

vs.

Team Vegeta:

Vegeta (Saiyan-saga)
Nappa
Raditz
And five Saibamen

Vegeta has a battle power of 18,000, the second strongest guy tops out at "close to 10,000", which is not even close to catching up to Vegeta.
The gap is simply too big for it to be a fair match, even if everybody attacked Vegeta. It's like with Piccolo at the 23rd Tournament. Even if 100 guys just as strong as Tenshinhan attacked him, they wouldn't be able to win.

Chapter: 189, P2.5, P3.1-3
Kuririn: “If it comes down to that, we can all gang up and manage something!”
Piccolo: “Kukkukku…You think that you’ll be able to manage something by ganging up on me? Don’t make me laugh! Even if there were a hundred of the likes of you, you’d still be no match. God included. I’m already in a completely difference dimension than you!”
Kame-sennin: “Unfortunately, he’s right...Goku is the only one able to take in those stupendously fast movements of his…”

SSjin Goku (End of Z) vs. Innocent Boo

SSJ Goku(Cell Games) = SSJ Goku(Buu Arc) = SSJ Goku(End of Z), if you ask me, so Goku gets stomped.

[broly is god]

OK, after all the training for the Saiyans and Yamcha (is/was/got) killed by a damn Saibaiman. (If he were to) vs Veggie, Yamcha would 100 percent fucking die! I bet Bulma could beat Yamcha.

[broly is god]

1. SSjin 3 Goku (End of Z) vs. Gohan-Boo
2. SSjin 2 Teen Gohan vs. Super Perfect Cell
3. 100% Mecha-Freeza and King Cold vs. Final Form Coola

1) Nah, the way I figure it, Goku at SSj3 has maybe only just about caught up to Gohan by the end of the manga. Suffice to say that it's not enough to take on Gohan-Boo.

2) They were already supposedly close in power at the climax of the Cell Games. But now that Gohan's gotten weaker (or at the very least, his SSj2 state has), he would probably lose unless he generates more power by getting mad.

3) I have 'Super' Coola as the movies equivalent of Mecha-Freeza, meaning they're similar in power. Having King Cold as backup would probably be enough to tip the scales in Freeza's favor.

No no no no. 2nd form Cooler would win because Cooler's power level is like 14mil and Mecha Freeza's power level is like 12mil. Additionally, King Cold's a pussy so Cooler wins, especially since Goku was near death when he fought him.

[hleV]

coolers power lvl is like 14mil and mechafreeza's power lvl is like 12mil

No?

[CatouttaHell]

I haven't seen anybody claim those 12/15 numbers were valid since the old days of MFG. I didn't know there were still people like you around.

[Nex Carnifex]

I was wondering, who'd win in a fight between Mr. Satan and Kuririn when he first appears. Seeing as Kuririn is just some non well known human martial artist when he first appears, and apparently wasn't even dreaming of entering the Tenkaichi Budokai, I see Mr. Satan winning.

[LeprikanGT]

I was about to rip that a new one until i read when Krillin first appeared.

My vote is still Krillin as he took some bullets to the dome and was ifne, Satan got shot through the chest.

[Nex Carnifex]

Yeah but is that really fair, Kuririn was still human just like Mr. Satan and tanking bullets was more of a gag feat, later he is scared of taking on people since they have guns. When Bulma gets mad and her teeth turn razor sharp its not like its actually happening its just to show rage, just like when characters suddenly materialize an uzi and shoot things.

[Great Saiyaman I]

Definitely Mr. Satan. He may be weak among the protagonists, but among the humans he really is one of the strongest.

[Nex Carnifex]

Where do you think he cuts off at? Do you think he could be start Goku who so easily took down a giant bear?

[Great Saiyaman I]

EDIT: Hooray for moderators!

Anyway, while I think Mr. Satan could have a chance since several Red Ribbon folks nearly beat Goku when he was even more powerful, after the 21st Budokai Mr. Satan would lose to any of the protagonists, except maybe Yamucha.

[Kaboom]

Also, there is a thread for this.
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =8&t=17060

Aaaaaaaaand merged.

[Nex Carnifex]

Do you think he would beat Nam?

[Nex Carnifex]

Bear Thief vs Yamcha from the beginning or Kuririn from the beginning...