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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:44 am

fadeddreams5 wrote: I'm not saying he knew. I'm saying he never asked King Kai for the status of his family while he was dead. If he did, he'd know he has a new son.
Pretty sure Goku can't just ask Kai's to call his family. Goku is dead. Therefore Gokus family need to move on. It's life. Did Grandpa Gohan contact Goku? Nope.

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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:03 am

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fadeddreams5 wrote: I'm not saying he knew. I'm saying he never asked King Kai for the status of his family while he was dead. If he did, he'd know he has a new son.
Pretty sure Goku can't just ask Kai's to call his family. Goku is dead. Therefore Gokus family need to move on. It's life. Did Grandpa Gohan contact Goku? Nope.
I'm not saying ask permission to speak to them. I mean ask him how they are and give him info. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

I know it's not canon, but he saw the events of the Bojack movie without interacting with anyone.
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Post by ABED » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:55 am

I'm not saying ask permission to speak to them. I mean ask him how they are and give him info. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that.
We don't know Kaio's rules for that sort of thing.
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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by alakazam^ » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:10 am

Goku is also a murderer.
fadeddreams5 wrote:I'm not saying ask permission to speak to them. I mean ask him how they are and give him info. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

I know it's not canon, but he saw the events of the Bojack movie without interacting with anyone.
There isn't anything wrong with him not asking about them as well, you just have to accept that's his character and it does no harm to anyone.

Also, this is off-topic so you guys should cut it out already.

I really hate when people disrespect Toriyama, either by "AT"-ing him or just speaking like he has Alzheimers. A specific example is when people say he forgot Lunch. He didn't and you have no evidence to suggest otherwise, so don't say it like it is fact.

I also can't stand people not thinking. I know no one's forced to have read the whole manga, watched the whole anime or even be aware of all the tidbits there are in guidebooks and interviews but it doesn't harm one to just search a little bit before posting on a forum. This also goes for those that, in order to dismiss FnF, say that if fans need to think, then the story (Toriyama) failed. Yeah, I don't think our brains work like that. If someone can't be bothered to think about alternatives, then I don't know why people should be bothered with responding to your opinions as well.

Speaking about FnF, and having recently read all pages of its thread, I became really, really livid with the same three or four posters that derailed that thread for months on end with nothing more than toxicity (and, in one instance, bullying). I thought it was incredibly disrespectful to all the forum members (not to mention, the forum itself) and I don't know how they didn't get banned.

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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:47 am

alakazam^ wrote:Goku is also a murderer.
What!? :wtf:

Since when? :eh:

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:49 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:Goku is also a murderer.
What!? :wtf:

Since when? :eh:
Since the time he killed his own grandfather.

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Post by alakazam^ » Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:52 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:Goku is also a murderer.
What!? :wtf:

Since when? :eh:
Since he went on aventures with Bulma.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:03 pm

Who has Goku even murdered? I can only think of King Piccolo, Kid Buu and Golden Freeza (all of which HAD to be killed). RRA guys?
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Post by Doctor. » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:07 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Who has Goku even murdered? I can only think of King Piccolo, Kid Buu and Golden Freeza (all of which HAD to be killed). RRA guys?
HIS GRANDPA.

How can people forget this?

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:09 pm

Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Who has Goku even murdered? I can only think of King Piccolo, Kid Buu and Golden Freeza (all of which HAD to be killed). RRA guys?
HIS GRANDPA.

How can people forget this?
I meant directly/purposely. D:
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:14 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:Goku is also a murderer.
What!? :wtf:

Since when? :eh:
Since he went on aventures with Bulma.
Practically every person that Goku has ever killed are people that fucked with him first by either killing or beating up his friends or himself or threatening to destroy or take over the world. Goku never kills for the sake of it. That is the definition of murder.
Doctor. wrote:Since the time he killed his own grandfather.
That was a total accident. That like saying sitting on a caterpillar on a park bench that you didn't see before hand is also murder.

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Post by Cetra » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:20 pm

alakazam^ wrote:A specific example is when people say he forgot Lunch. He didn't and you have no evidence to suggest otherwise, so don't say it like it is fact.
And yet you claim something that cannot be proven but actually even proven wrong.

There are even youtube videos about how Chris Sabat said he met Akira Toriyama once and a fan asked him why Lunch did not reappear. And Chris Sabat himself said, he heard Toriyama-san saying, he forgot. Chris Sabat has no reason to lie.
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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:24 pm

Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Who has Goku even murdered? I can only think of King Piccolo, Kid Buu and Golden Freeza (all of which HAD to be killed). RRA guys?
HIS GRANDPA.

How can people forget this?
In America at least, Murder requires Malice Aforethought. So he didn't murder his Grandpa

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:24 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:That was a total accident. That like saying sitting on a caterpillar on a park bench that you didn't see before hand is also murder.
A caterpillar is an animal, not a human being. You can go to the forest right now and kill every caterpillar you find on purpose, and nobody will tell you anything despite how cruel an act it is. If you accidentally let your knife fall on your father's head and kill him, even if it wasn't on purpose, you'll suffer repercussion, you're going to be judged for murder even if it was an accident.

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:27 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:That was a total accident. That like saying sitting on a caterpillar on a park bench that you didn't see before hand is also murder.
A caterpillar is an animal, not a human being. You can go to the forest right now and kill every caterpillar you find on purpose, and nobody will tell you anything despite how cruel an act it is. If you accidentally let your knife fall on your father's head and kill him, even if it wasn't on purpose, you'll suffer repercussion, you're going to be judged for murder even if it was an accident.
Nope. By legal definition, an Accident is not Murder. Murder requires intent.

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Post by alakazam^ » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:25 pm

Cetra wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:A specific example is when people say he forgot Lunch. He didn't and you have no evidence to suggest otherwise, so don't say it like it is fact.
And yet you claim something that cannot be proven but actually even proven wrong.

There are even youtube videos about how Chris Sabat said he met Akira Toriyama once and a fan asked him why Lunch did not reappear. And Chris Sabat himself said, he heard Toriyama-san saying, he forgot. Chris Sabat has no reason to lie.
It can't be proven but was proven wrong? I can prove it, though. It's stated she left Kame House in pursuit of Tenshinhan. There. Why she never came back is another issue, one that is never answered to but the mere fact Toriyama wanted to include her giving energy to the Genki-dama is proof that he didn't forget about her. Even if you say he forgot about her between those two instances, which you could and it's possible, there's no proof of it and he ended up remembering her regardless.

Concerning Chris Sabat, I don't know why he would lie but his word doesn't mean much to me. It's strange that a Q&A with Toriyama or whatever it was isn't documented anywhere.
jcogginsa wrote:Nope. By legal definition, an Accident is not Murder. Murder requires intent.
Not everyone comes from America, though. My country's definition is simply a person killing another person and Goku did a lot of that. It's still murder even if the ones getting killed were villains.

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:04 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
Cetra wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:A specific example is when people say he forgot Lunch. He didn't and you have no evidence to suggest otherwise, so don't say it like it is fact.
And yet you claim something that cannot be proven but actually even proven wrong.

There are even youtube videos about how Chris Sabat said he met Akira Toriyama once and a fan asked him why Lunch did not reappear. And Chris Sabat himself said, he heard Toriyama-san saying, he forgot. Chris Sabat has no reason to lie.
It can't be proven but was proven wrong? I can prove it, though. It's stated she left Kame House in pursuit of Tenshinhan. There. Why she never came back is another issue, one that is never answered to but the mere fact Toriyama wanted to include her giving energy to the Genki-dama is proof that he didn't forget about her. Even if you say he forgot about her between those two instances, which you could and it's possible, there's no proof of it and he ended up remembering her regardless.

Concerning Chris Sabat, I don't know why he would lie but his word doesn't mean much to me. It's strange that a Q&A with Toriyama or whatever it was isn't documented anywhere.
jcogginsa wrote:Nope. By legal definition, an Accident is not Murder. Murder requires intent.
Not everyone comes from America, though. My country's definition is simply a person killing another person and Goku did a lot of that. It's still murder even if the ones getting killed were villains.
What country do you live in, and can you cite a source saying that?

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Post by alakazam^ » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:17 pm

jcogginsa wrote:What country do you live in, and can you cite a source saying that?
I'm from Portugal and my source is the Penal Code itself, Article 131. http://www.pgdlisboa.pt/leis/lei_mostra ... ao=#artigo

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:24 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:What country do you live in, and can you cite a source saying that?
I'm from Portugal and my source is the Penal Code itself, Article 131. http://www.pgdlisboa.pt/leis/lei_mostra ... ao=#artigo
Well i can't read portugese so i'll just take your word for it

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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by KameRule » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:56 pm

Even still, there's a mighty big difference between carelessly dropping a knife onto your dad's head, and literally transforming into a gigantic gorilla monster in your sleep and crushing your granddad.
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