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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:33 pm

Kanassa wrote:That makes me wonder, would Gotenks's personality change as the two grow up and develop? Or is the first fusion's personality one that sticks with him for eternity? Could it count as erasing the original gotenks? How pretentiously can I overthink this?
It would change to reflect their own matured personalities. In my opinion, it would be poor writing to retain his personality, unless one intentionally kept Trunks and Goten with the same characters.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:45 pm

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Kanassa wrote:That makes me wonder, would Gotenks's personality change as the two grow up and develop? Or is the first fusion's personality one that sticks with him for eternity? Could it count as erasing the original gotenks? How pretentiously can I overthink this?
It would change to reflect their own matured personalities. In my opinion, it would be poor writing to retain his personality, unless one intentionally kept Trunks and Goten with the same characters.
Which brings me to a question for Goten: what to do with him?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:47 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Which brings me to a question for Goten: what to do with him?
Go to the future and bring back GT Goten. He's one of the best characters in that show.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:49 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Which brings me to a question for Goten: what to do with him?
Make him young, innocent, full of potential, and have him look up to Gohan and Trunks. Of course, develop him well. I actually would envision quite some ease in writing him.
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Post by Alruneia » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:00 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Which brings me to a question for Goten: what to do with him?
Let him do his own thing. For example, you can build his character by having him hang with other people than Trunks. Goten can hang with Gohan... with Goku... with some random chick, bring back Valese for all I care... Just don't have him continue to be Luigi'd by Trunks. What his character is supposed to be is up to you, because he's very much a blank slate (based on canon).
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

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ekrolo2 wrote:Which brings me to a question for Goten: what to do with him?
Make him young, innocent, full of potential, and have him look up to Gohan and Trunks. Of course, develop him well. I actually would envision quite some ease in writing him.
Develop him into what though? He doesn't have the drive of his dad so best fighter is out, his brother already did the full of potential & vigilante thing so that's out. There aren't many avenues left for him that wouldn't just be retreads of what other characters did beforehand.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:09 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Which brings me to a question for Goten: what to do with him?
He's tired of being seen as a miniature version of his father and always being second to Trunks, so he goes on a quest to gain his own identity.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:11 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Develop him into what though? He doesn't have the drive of his dad so best fighter is out, his brother already did the full of potential & vigilante thing so that's out. There aren't many avenues left for him that wouldn't just be retreads of what other characters did beforehand.
How about you develop him into a dude who questions his position in the world? He simply cannot uncover where he has been placed, and slowly turns evil and becomes Goku Black begins a journey to find out! It'd give you time to figure out what you want him to end up being.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:31 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Develop him into what though? He doesn't have the drive of his dad so best fighter is out, his brother already did the full of potential & vigilante thing so that's out. There aren't many avenues left for him that wouldn't just be retreads of what other characters did beforehand.
How about you develop him into a dude who questions his position in the world? He simply cannot uncover where he has been placed, and slowly turns evil and becomes Goku Black begins a journey to find out! It'd give you time to figure out what you want him to end up being.
Goten becoming Black would make for a good development, we've never had one of the Son family go outright bad before.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:45 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Goten becoming Black would make for a good development, we've never had one of the Son family go outright bad before.
Go for it. I'd have no issue with it. :P I suppose the biggest issue would be how to develop him into a full-on evil Goku, but other than that, it shouldn't be too hard if you're going for some mystery. Have your Black one-shots on the side and a Goten story as the main dish. That way it'd be a lot more of a shocker when he becomes Black.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:47 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Goten becoming Black would make for a good development, we've never had one of the Son family go outright bad before.
Go for it. I'd have no issue with it. :P I suppose the biggest issue would be how to develop him into a full-on evil Goku, but other than that, it shouldn't be too hard if you're going for some mystery. Have your Black one-shots on the side and a Goten story as the main dish. That way it'd be a lot more of a shocker when he becomes Black.
That's gonna be hard, I already revealed Black as another Zamasu.

Still, this Goten as Black idea holds potential, I could very easily develop it into it's own thing.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:49 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:That's gonna be hard, I already revealed Black as another Zamasu.
How about two Blacks? Zamasu could play a key role in Goten becoming another Black, no?
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:00 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:That's gonna be hard, I already revealed Black as another Zamasu.
How about two Blacks? Zamasu could play a key role in Goten becoming another Black, no?
For the sake of my sanity, it's better I keep the one-shots their own thing, I'm already racking my brain trying to un-shit the Black arc enough as is :P
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:17 pm

I intend to modify the timeline system in my fic. There isn't an unseen timeline.

The timeline system in my fic:

Timeline 1: The original timeline. Goku kills Frieza and Cold, then dies of the heart virus. The Androids show up and kill everyone. Hoi shows up with the music box, which is opened using Capsule Corp. technology. To kill Hirudegarn, Trunks kills Tapion and Hoi, and keeps the Brave Sword as a reminder. Trunks goes back in time, creating Timeline 2.
Timeline 2: Cell's timeline. T1 Trunks arrives and kills Frieza and Cold, then gives the antidote to Goku and warns everyone about the androids. He returns to his timeline, and never comes back here. Thus, without his help, the androids manage to kill everyone, including Goku. Tapion event happens again. Trunks from this timeline goes back in time, creating Timeline 3. He returns with the blueprints, deactivates the androids, and prepares to go back in time. Cell shows up, kills him, and goes back in time, creating Timeline 4.
Timeline 3: Trunks's timeline. T2 Trunks doesn't interfere in this timeline. He makes a beeline for Gero's lab, steals the blueprints, and returns to his own timeline. Thus, Goku kills Frieza and Cold, dies of the heart virus. Androids triumph again. Again, Tapion event. Trunks goes back in time, and, along with T2 Cell, creates Timeline 4. Trunks returns triumphant, and kills the Androids and Cell. Much later, Goku Black arrives, kills Gowasu, and teams up with this timeline's Zamasu, who wishes for immortality, and they begin their plan of mass genocide. Trunks goes back in time again, creating Timeline 5. Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, and Bulma follow Black back here. Eventually, Black and Zamasu fuse, Trunks destroys Fusion Zamasu's body, but he fuses with the fabric of reality, leading to this timeline's Zen-Oh destroying everything. The survivors move to Timeline 5 temporarily.
Timeline 4: Goku Black's timeline. T2 Cell arrives in Age 763. T3 Trunks arrives in Age 764, and kills Frieza and Cold. He gives Goku the antidote, warns everyone, leaves. He returns 3 years later. They fight the Androids and Cell. No more time travel (besides Tapion) occurs. Much later, Zamasu and Goku fight. Zamasu wishes to switch bodies with Goku, becomes Goku Black, and kills the Son family, then goes to Timeline 3.
Timeline 5: Main timeline. T4 Trunks returns following the multiverse tournament and warns everyone. Black follows him. Eventually, Goku, Bulma, Vegeta, and Trunks head back to Timeline 3. They come back, accompanied by Mai and Zen-Oh, who befriends this timeline'sversion of himself. Whis creates a new timeline, Timeline 6, and takes Trunks and Mai to it.
Timeline 6: The new future timeline. Whis arrives, preempts Shin and Kibito's deaths, and warns this timeline's Beerus and Whis about Zamasu. Trunks and Mai stay here. It is made abundantly clear to Zamasu that if he attempts to enact any plans of genocide or murder, he will be severely punished. However, as he hasn't done anything yet, he's let off with a warning.
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:21 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote:That's gonna be hard, I already revealed Black as another Zamasu.
How about two Blacks? Zamasu could play a key role in Goten becoming another Black, no?
For the sake of my sanity, it's better I keep the one-shots their own thing, I'm already racking my brain trying to un-shit the Black arc enough as is :P
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:24 pm

If I were to re-write (never would, just hypothetically), I'd ditch time travel. Trunks can exist in an alternate universe, or something.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:32 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Is your rewrite publicly viewable?
Not yet, I'm currently making it the third part of a trilogy to which the second part isn't over. The first one is a rewrite of Resurrection F.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:If I were to re-write (never would, just hypothetically), I'd ditch time travel. Trunks can exist in an alternate universe, or something.
That's what I'm leaning towards too, it's too unnecessarily convoluted and I think you can make Zamasu a compelling antagonist all on his own without needing to introduce Black & Future Trunks.
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:52 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:If I were to re-write (never would, just hypothetically), I'd ditch time travel. Trunks can exist in an alternate universe, or something.
Why would he choose to come to our universe?

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:57 pm

Future Trunks' history can't work as its own universe period regardless of time travel. There's literally no way you can justify the dead warriors decision to sit on their asses and not contact New Namek. Nor is there a way to make them come back without being able to murder stomp the Androids effortlessly, I had to introduce Babidi & Majin Boo in my rewrite of FTs timeline just to have a story.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:59 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Future Trunks' history can't work as its own universe period regardless of time travel. There's literally no way you can justify the dead warriors decision to sit on their asses and not contact New Namek.
They all reincarnated ;)

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