"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[FortuneSSJ]

I'm actually expecting Freeza to work alone and even ring out one U7 fighter to increase the tension of have him as teammate.
Tenshinhan seems a good choice for that. He seems scared and doesn't even feel like he wants to be there.

[Kanassa]

Zeno will probably prohibit any restoration of the erased universes, since he wanted to delete most of them in the first place.

That would make too much sense for it to happen in Dragon Ball Super.

How does it make too much sense for Dragon Ball Super?

[Hellspawn28]

It seems like Freeza has a body in Hell after all. I always believe that he is a spirit wrap inside of a cocoon which can explain why he is brought back into pieces in ROF.

[Noah]

Can't wait to see [spoiler]Frieza and Frost together and to hear Ryusei Nakao talk with himself.[/spoiler]

Its the same feeling when Goku talks with his sons.

Not quite. Sure it's hard to differentiate Goku and Gohan when both are fighting, but in dialogue we can spot differences in their mannerisms: Goku is more hick-like when Gohan is more polite.

Frost and Freeza will be difficult because both talk with the same voice tone and manneirisms.

LSSJ Kale is happening next week, folks.

Buckle up. Shit's about to get crazy.

And that coming from the guy that was ready to flip off after her first reveal

Who voices Kale?

Yukana Nogami

Couldn't they bring Bin Shimada to voice her? I don't think Yukana Nogami will bring something like this when doing Kale transforming into LSSJ.

[Dbzfan94]

Super Saiyan 2 Caulifla already!?


[spoiler][/spoiler]

I'm really liking her so far but not sure how I feel about her getting SSJ1 and SSJ2 in the span of less than 3 hours

[DainIronfoot]

After all this, I cannot believe tien will last more than a minute up in the stage..

I legit think that he will be the first one on team U7 to get taken out.

I think Roshi and Tien are going to bite the bullet first. Whoever it is, I assume their fans are not going to be pleased. Can you imagine the outrage if Gohan falls first
Though, it would be hilarious if all the strong guys lose and Roshi is the only one left standing insuring the victory for the 7th Universe.

While one of the Earthlings is more likely to be taken out first, it wouldn't surprise me if they took out one of the more stronger fighters first like Piccolo/18 either. I'm any event, if Tien or Roshi is knocked out first, I'd want them to at least showcase some cool stuff before they do.

[MagmonKai]

How does it make too much sense for Dragon Ball Super?

It was meant to be sarcasm, but since you asked...I believe that when it comes down to common sense things that should have happened in DBS or DB for that matter, they don't happen. For example wouldn't have been smarter for Zamas to wish for immortality as well as invincibility? (No, the two aren't the same) Why didn't Goku Black take care of the Ultimate Gods before going on his rampage? (Like I would have wished for the Grand Priest and Zeno to be wiped out before I started) that way no matter what I'd be the "ultimate God". Maybe he didn't know about Zeno, I don't know. It just seems like sometimes the Villains or the Protagonists don't think it through. This is the case where people (I mean on the internet) assume that: Oh everything will be alright because they can just wish for the erased people back! The problem with that, I see is that would go against the Zenos' desire to wipe out lower mortal levels. Some people have already argued that he could just wipe the universes but keep the people yada yada yada. They say this because that's the current theme of the show, consequences be damn nearly 99.999% of the time. With a few exceptions. Everything can just be undone with the dragon balls - Future Trunks Timeline being the .001% difference. The Tournament of Power hasn't concluded so I don't want to debate something that hasn't happened yet. I'm just debating peoples theories.

[precita]

So since Goku was seriously considering giving Mr. Satan a spot in the roster for the tournament when he knows he would literally be killed in an instant, does that prove Goku's not thinking properly in terms of fighters having the ability to perform well?

[ArchedThunder]

It was meant to be sarcasm, but since you asked...I believe that when it comes down to common sense things that should have happened in DBS or DB for that matter, they don't happen. For example wouldn't have been smarter for Zamas to wish for immortality as well as invincibility? (No, the two aren't the same) Why didn't Goku Black take care of the Ultimate Gods before going on his rampage? (Like I would have wished for the Grand Priest and Zeno to be wiped out before I started) that way no matter what I'd be the "ultimate God". Maybe he didn't know about Zeno, I don't know. It just seems like sometimes the Villains or the Protagonists don't think it through. This is the case where people (I mean on the internet) assume that: Oh everything will be alright because they can just wish for the erased people back! The problem with that, I see is that would go against the Zenos' desire to wipe out lower mortal levels. Some people have already argued that he could just wipe the universes but keep the people yada yada yada. They say this because that's the current theme of the show, consequences be damn nearly 99.999% of the time. With a few exceptions. Everything can just be undone with the dragon balls - Future Trunks Timeline being the .001% difference. The Tournament of Power hasn't concluded so I don't want to debate something that hasn't happened yet. I'm just debating peoples theories.

Zeno's immortality wish gave him perfect regeneration, it wasn't until he fused with someone who wasn't immortal that his body could be destroyed.
Zeno and the Grand Priest are probably too powerful to be destroyed by the Super Dragon Balls, Zeno especially.

[Boo Machine]

So since Goku was seriously considering giving Mr. Satan a spot in the roster for the tournament when he knows he would literally be killed in an instant, does that prove Goku's not thinking properly in terms of fighters having the ability to perform well?

More like it was a small gag played for laughs, and goku only considered it because he was pressed for time. Even then he made sure to tell Satan how out matched he would be instead of out right accepting him.

[Kanassa]

For example wouldn't have been smarter for Zamas to wish for immortality as well as invincibility?

They're not the same thing, but he basically got the same thing. He got a body that couldn't die, no matter the wound inflicted upon it, though the show seems inconsistent on whether he can feel pain or not (Though I always just assumed he gets off on pain after the reality of ''Can not die'' settled in)...

Why didn't Goku Black take care of the Ultimate Gods before going on his rampage? (Like I would have wished for the Grand Priest and Zeno to be wiped out before I started) that way no matter what I'd be the "ultimate God". Maybe he didn't know about Zeno, I don't know.

While there is the chance that Zamasu doesn't know about Zeno (I wouldn't be surprised if that's not knowledge given to Apprentice Kaioshin), why would Black go after Zeno? Black is a pragmatic character who does acknowledge when there's people more powerful than him, he would be smart enough to know that there'd be no point in going to Zeno because Zeno would simply kill him. Zeno is the most powerful being in existence, likely more powerful than any type of Dragon Ball, and Dragon Balls can not effect beings more powerful than them.

Plus, Zeno was completely unaware about any of Zamasu's plans until Goku dragged him to Earth, despite the fact that all the other Gods were dead.

They say this because that's the current theme of the show, consequences be damn nearly 99.999% of the time. With a few exceptions. Everything can just be undone with the dragon balls - Future Trunks Timeline being the .001% difference. The Tournament of Power hasn't concluded so I don't want to debate something that hasn't happened yet. I'm just debating peoples theories.

Actually, a repeated theme of this show has been in building up the fact that the protagonists always count on the Dragon Balls to bail them out as well as the Gods (Which really isn't Dragon Ball Super exclusive, that's most of Dragon Ball when the Dragon Balls became so easy to get). Future Trunks arc being what shows them what they'd be without such things to fall back on, yet they still don't acknowledge it. This arc seems to be building up to a situation where there is nothing to fall back on, as well as moving forward with the line about the Gods.

[perucho1990]

As long as every main character gets at least one win, I won't mind. What will bother me is characters just immediately getting destroyed or barely lasting 10 minutes, essentially making all this build up poointless.

I think Krillin will last until the end, Beerus told him to survive until the end of the battle royal.

[IntoTheFire]

I personally think Gohan, Goku and maybe Frieza are most likely to stay till the end. Considering that it doesn't have to be just one person left standing I suspect there will be at least two contestants from 7 left. If we win that is. I think at least one of the them will be Gohan. But I would also like it if the ones left are those most don't expect like 18 and Tien, for example.

[BlueBasilisk]

Cauli puts our saiyans in U7 to shame, with SSJ yeah I can understand since Cabba taught it to her, but even Cabba doesnt have SSJ2 let alone knows it exists, for all he knows its just base-SSJ-SSJB. Goten and Trunks had the hybrid excuse but Cauli's is just ridiculous maybe female saiyans are more gifted than male saiyans? or she's just that much of a genius.

I think what's happening in Universe 6 is what could have happened in Universe 7 if Goku and Vegeta weren't a couple of pigheaded jackasses who'd rather re-invent the wheel than work together and compare notes. They're making life harder for themselves and everyone else.

[Hellspawn28]

It won't surprise me if U9 ends up being disqualified due to lack of team members.

[Noah]

Zeno is the most powerful being in existence, likely more powerful than any type of Dragon Ball, and Dragon Balls can not effect beings more powerful than them.

The Super Dragon Balls has no limits, even though you say is likely true, it's just an assumption. I hope in this arc we actually see that Zeno(s) is nothing less than a Glass Cannon (that's why he need guards and Daishinkan assist)

[IntoTheFire]

It won't surprise me if U9 ends up being disqualified due to lack of team members.

Me neither, but I hope they have enough sense to choose a full team, even if they have to rely on complete weaklings. They wouldn't do much, but at least it would give their universe a chance.

[TheSaiyanGod]

I like Freeza planning something with Frost, it would be very interesting an interaction between them.
But I do not know if I'd like to see Freeza betraying his team.
He is treacherous, Goku knows this, but I hoped he would at least create a little sympathy for Goku and his friends, while remaining a villain or an evil one. He wanted them to really help others in the tournament.

I hope it's a TOEI bug with Caulifla's SSJ2, it's strange that she has hair so much like Goku's SSJ2, each one has its own particularity.
She got SSJ pretty fast, so I hope she can not get SSJ2 for now.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Not quite. Sure it's hard to differentiate Goku and Gohan when both are fighting, but in dialogue we can spot differences in their mannerisms: Goku is more hick-like when Gohan is more polite.

Frost and Freeza will be difficult because both talk with the same voice tone and manneirisms.

Yeah which is why I prefer the dub giving a different voice for Frost.

Side note- You defintely can't spot the differences between Nozawa's Son family when they start fighting though #90 was ridiculous it always bugs me when Nozawa's Gohan goes into Goku screams , for Super given Nozawa's age I think they should re-cast Goten and Gohan.

[Gog]

Is it bad that I want Freeza to humiliate Caulifla in the tournament?