Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[ABED]

Technical question: How much more disc space does an audio track take up in comparison to video?

[kidglov3s]

I think that paying attention to things like audio/video quality heavily depends on your aproach to art itself. I'm not talking about the term of "video quality". It's not about "quality" for "quality", because somebody is a fan of "quality". All these technical things have one purpose: To present audiovisual footage as respective and as faithfully rethreading the original as possible. Original authors were those who decided about color palette, size, aspect ratio, contrast, sharpness and brightness. FUNimation is going completely against that. They are using blu-ray to achieve VHS quality... Despite of people's preference - it is stupid.

You are misinterpreting people's intentions. I'm not interested in HD because I'm a fan of quality and videophile. I'm interested in Dragon Ball art, that's why I want HD release. It allows to see what was invisible in SD format. I can see more detail and small imperfections. I believe that all people who have the same kind of approach to art and understands technical things think the same.

If you're a fan of the original work logically you'd be buying the full colour mangas and other books with artworks by Akira Toriyama not the anime series/films which were designed by various artists.

And no, the Season BDs aren't VHS quality you're just exaggerating and for you to say that you mustn't remember what the quality looked like. The Season BDs are a low budget release so that's all there is to it, there's no point bashing it any more.

Dragon Ball Z: Season Three on Blu-ray basically costs 50 cents per episode (32 in total) which is insanely cheap and you can't get an authentic release cheaper than this.

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Blu-r ... A+Season+3+[Blu-ray]

A few points:

1. The anime as created is as much a work of art as the manga or anything else, and deserves as much accuracy in presentation.

2. The low budget of the release is irrelevant. The problems are a result of things being done, work being done, changes being made, not the lack of it. They start with a master that has the fine detail, and then they obliterate it. It would be cheaper and easier to do a faithful and accurate release. This is a question of principles and philosophy, not of resources.

[RocktheDragon]

I'm sorry, but I gotta touch on this one - while I agree that these Blurays look pretty bad (though some shots certainly seem to look better than others), there is something to be said for having too high of a standard when it comes to video quality too. Not all of us have this...this burning desire for things to look the best they could. So long as something is adequate enough, some of us prefer to actually sit down and watch something and enjoy it, rather than burn with righteous fury about how much better it could totally look. So if someone else actually doesn't mind how a release looks, then hey, that's okay. They're allowed to enjoy it and think it looks good to them, even if it doesn't make any sense to you.

I guess it just varies from person to person (obviously) but I do think there are times when a movie or TV show's presentation can be downright insulting to the product. There is nothing wrong with having people enjoy an inadequate release, and as you've stated it's their right to do so! I totally agree with that kind of statement and I do think that the vilification of those who enjoy the Orange Bricks and new BD sets can go a bit too far. Yet at the same time it is quite distressing to see the way DBZ is treated with respect to its original presentation and a lack of respect for how it's supposed to be presented. That's really my only personal qualm with the way DBZ has been treated by Funimation but even then I don't think too hard on it or get emotionally angry about it. It is what it is and the majority of people will still find a way to enjoy the releases (as even I have).

[Ajay]

Technical question: How much more disc space does an audio track take up in comparison to video?

Pretty small. Depends on the format really.

My personal 4GB rip of Battle of Gods has a 900MB audio track. You'll see similar ratios on commercial discs. Obviously it depends heavily on the format - is it 5.1 or mono etc but you get the idea!

[RocktheDragon]

Technical question: How much more disc space does an audio track take up in comparison to video?

Here is an unoffical Blu-ray Audio and Video Specifications Thread from AVS forums: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1155731/new-u ... ons-thread

Then here is a great explanation of finding the file sizes for video and audio:

Go down the page and click on one of the movies that has a link in its title. Here for example is Sword Of The Stranger:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1155731/new-u ... t_17127461

Check out the audio section of the BDInfo report, scanned directly from the actual digital file on the Blu-ray. Here is the English soundtrack on Sword of the Stranger:


Dolby TrueHD Audio English 1614 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1614 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)


The TrueHD soundtrack runs at 16-bit/48kHz, pretty standard for a modern movie. You can calculate the total audio file size by taking the 1614 kbps figure and multiplying it by the total length in seconds of the movie. That gives you the total audio size in kilobits, which can be converted to megabytes.

[RocktheDragon]

Technical question: How much more disc space does an audio track take up in comparison to video?

Pretty small. Depends on the format really.

My personal 4GB rip of Battle of Gods has a 900MB audio track. You'll see similar ratios on commercial discs. Obviously it depends heavily on the format - is it 5.1 or mono etc but you get the idea!

Yeah the DTS-MA audio track for Avatar stands at around 5.0GB. So it can definitely get up there in size!

[Ajay]

Technical question: How much more disc space does an audio track take up in comparison to video?

Pretty small. Depends on the format really.

My personal 4GB rip of Battle of Gods has a 900MB audio track. You'll see similar ratios on commercial discs. Obviously it depends heavily on the format - is it 5.1 or mono etc but you get the idea!

Yeah the DTS-MA audio track for Avatar stands at around 5.0GB. So it can definitely get up there in size!

Yeah man, the video on that thing is like 30GB+!

[ABED]

Didn't FUNi clean up DBZ a little bit for their ultimate uncut releases?

[Daimo-Rukiri]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Dragon ... PDKIKX0DER
Seems the $16-17 releases end here, could be updated later.

[qjz123]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Dragon ... PDKIKX0DER
Seems the $16-17 releases end here, could be updated later.

It'll go down amazon originally listed season 2 for $40.

[ABED]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Dragon ... PDKIKX0DER
Seems the $16-17 releases end here, could be updated later.

It hasn't been released yet, they often drop in price shortly around or after release.

[ShadowDude112]

Kinda want to pick up Season 1 and 2, but amazon is still out of Season 1. Like, geez. It's taking way to long to stop being under review.

[samuraix123]

Kinda want to pick up Season 1 and 2, but amazon is still out of Season 1. Like, geez. It's taking way to long to stop being under review.

Yeah I hope you can get it. I was lucky when I got mine. almost as soon as I ordered it the price shot up

[dbboxkaifan]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Dragon ... PDKIKX0DER
Seems the $16-17 releases end here, could be updated later.

It's 2014 and yet Amazon allows people to post reviews for something that isn't out. If only they owned it to be reviewing but they don't.

Anyway, I'm curious what'll the cover be with, perhaps King Cold, Mecha Freeza, Trunks and Cell 1st Form. It'd be funny to see Vegeta with his t-shirt "Badman" in the background though.

[Patrick]

I might just grab Season 4 seeing as it's the only other season I don't have on DVD (the other being season 2).

[samuraix123]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Dragon ... PDKIKX0DER
Seems the $16-17 releases end here, could be updated later.

It's 2014 and yet Amazon allows people to post reviews for something that isn't out. If only they owned it to be reviewing but they don't.

Anyway, I'm curious what'll the cover be with, perhaps King Cold, Mecha Freeza, Trunks and Cell 1st Form. It'd be funny to see Vegeta with his t-shirt "Badman" in the background though.

I actually just told my brother about Vegeta wearing that shirt for the next cover! haha Also has anyone had any problems with the season 2 box? mine is coming in the mail and I was just curious if I should check all the discs and such.

[Big Momma]

I saw Season 2 at an FYE this weekend and they had it for $64. I'm guessing that's the MSRP but after seeing the Amazon prices that just seems outrageous.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Dragon ... PDKIKX0DER
Seems the $16-17 releases end here, could be updated later.

It's 2014 and yet Amazon allows people to post reviews for something that isn't out. If only they owned it to be reviewing but they don't.

Anyway, I'm curious what'll the cover be with, perhaps King Cold, Mecha Freeza, Trunks and Cell 1st Form. It'd be funny to see Vegeta with his t-shirt "Badman" in the background though.

I actually just told my brother about Vegeta wearing that shirt for the next cover! haha Also has anyone had any problems with the season 2 box? mine is coming in the mail and I was just curious if I should check all the discs and such.

Mine came with a part of the tab broken, no scratches on any of the disks so I'm fine with it.

[Kendamu]

The thing that holds the disc holder in place at the bottom is broken on mine. I didn't realize it right away, though. I'm not too worried about it. I'm not gonna return it to Amazon. The top one's in good shape and does the job just fine considering that the case spends pretty much all of its time just sitting there doing nothing.

[RocktheDragon]

I saw Season 2 at an FYE this weekend and they had it for $64. I'm guessing that's the MSRP but after seeing the Amazon prices that just seems outrageous.

Absolutely bonkers! I always carry around a smart phone in those situations and I never trust brick and mortar stores anymore. There is no trust left sadly.

My second order of my Season 2 BD came in Friday after I requested a return on Thursday! Amazon was very fast in their return and I love the service! I won't be opening up my BD's and am just into the collecting aspect at this point. I have no reason to watch since I have the U.S. Dragon Boxes but I enjoy the novelty and connected cover art of this release. Hopefully Funimation is smart and releases a large poster showcasing all of the cover art together. Now that would be something everyone could get behind, I hope.