Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[bkev]

Hey guys hoping the zoom will be fixed, remember that the orange bricks used the same credits for every episode on both angles. Somehow, I doubt they'll change this.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

This is just terrible. I think I've only noticed it on this set, but that blurriness!!! Its all over this set, its disgusting! How are the few that do find this acceptable? I just don't get it.
http://i.imgur.com/5stuqv2.jpg

I think that shot look's great, don't see the problem.

[VegettoEX]

I think that shot look's great, don't see the problem.

The lines around the background characters are literally doubled up on each other (Vegeta in particular).

[sumpter360]

I think that shot look's great, don't see the problem.

The lines around the background characters are literally doubled up on each other (Vegeta in particular).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a shot where only the foreground (Ginyu Frog) is supposed to be in focus? The fact that Goku, Vegeta, etc are blurry is just as much a result of the nature of the original shot than it is of this remastering. Out of focus things aren't supposed to be clear. Look 5 feet past your computer monitor. While looking past it, are the words on the monitor as clear or sharp as when you look directly at it? No? Blasphemy! This release of life is awful! Everyone should boycott it!

All joking aside, I feel like (if) the intention of that shot is that we look at the foreground, why do we get so violent about the background?

[Ajay]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a shot where only the foreground (Ginyu Frog) is supposed to be in focus? The fact that Goku, Vegeta, etc are blurry is just as much a result of the nature of the original shot than it is of this remastering. Out of focus things aren't supposed to be clear. Look 5 feet past your computer monitor. While looking past it, are the words on the monitor as clear or sharp as when you look directly at it? No? Blasphemy! This release of life is awful! Everyone should boycott it!

All joking aside, I feel like (if) the intention of that shot is that we look at the foreground, why do we get so violent about the background?

It's out of focus but it's their extreme DNR that's causing the ghosting:



And we get 'violent' because it's just more examples of how this bizarre process is butchering the artwork. I mean, take a look at the ship - it looks like a tacky watercolour in the Season sets.

[dbboxkaifan]

Whoa the Season BD shot looks extremely blurry and the Dragon Box Z not that much better anyway but by any chance does anyone have a screen of Kai HD's version?

[Ajay]

Yup. Still no ghosting:

Spoiler:

[dbboxkaifan]

Yup. Still no ghosting:

Spoiler:

Looks definitely much better and another reason why I wish Toei Animation would take care of remastering Dragon Ball Z in HD for the definitive Blu-ray release.

When TOEI releases DBZ in HD then I'll get rid of my US Dragon Boxes Z.

[eledoremassis02]

Yup. Still no ghosting:

Spoiler:

As bad as the orange bricks can be at times, I wish we could just get 4:3 transfers of these (eshally the later seasons). This shot does not look bad at all

[qjz123]

Yup. Still no ghosting:

Spoiler:

That looks great although even the level sets wouldn't have stood a chance in this scene it's from one of the 35mm episodes.

[Metalwario64]

This is just terrible. I think I've only noticed it on this set, but that blurriness!!! Its all over this set, its disgusting! How are the few that do find this acceptable? I just don't get it.
http://i.imgur.com/5stuqv2.jpg

I agree. Although I'm a bit torn on this set, because while I think most of the later episodes look better on the DVD, the Blu-ray doesn't have the brightness issue a few of the DVD episodes have, and some of the earlier episodes look better on the Blu-ray.

It's kinda funny that the S2 DVD starts out blurrier, and then the Blu-ray ends up blurrier, from what I've seen. If I recall, it's the fake Namek stuff that looks blurrier in the DVD, and once they reach Namek it seems noticeably sharper, and the Blu-ray episodes of Fake Namek look very yellow, so I assume the Namek stuff has different masters, which would explain the quality differences. It looks like they get carried away with the filters during the Namek stuff, so in an odd twist, the DVD actually tends to look sharper. They're both really crappy releases.

Blu-ray:


DVD:


Look how blurry Vegeta's armor is in the Blu-ray shot compared to the DVD. Also, from that image, it looks like they may have stopped cleaning the damage now (though I don't have the set to make that assumption).

[bkev]

Yup. Still no ghosting:

Spoiler:

As bad as the orange bricks can be at times, I wish we could just get 4:3 transfers of these (eshally the later seasons). This shot does not look bad at all

That... appears to be from Kai. No idea what it looks like on the brick.

Also, in response to Metalwario64, one instance of film damage does not imply that they stopped cleaning. I'm assuming that this, much like the bricks, came out of an automated process. Of course it's going to miss some here and there.

[Metalwario64]

Also, in response to Metalwario64, one instance of film damage does not imply that they stopped cleaning.

While that's true, I just can't imagine them spending all of that time and money into cleaning the damage, only the cake the footage up with filters and cropping.

But then, this is FUNimation we're talking about. When it comes to Dragon Ball, they don't always make the best business decisions.

[Kuwabara]

But then, this is FUNimation we're talking about. When it comes to Dragon Ball, they don't always make the best business decisions.

Sure they do, the best business decisions for making money anyway.

[TheGmGoken]

But then, this is FUNimation we're talking about. When it comes to Dragon Ball, they don't always make the best business decisions.

Sure they do, the best business decisions for making money anyway.

Hey as long they make the money they don't care(To a degree). They still please the fans. I honestly don't think we need Blu Rays(We...not yet anyways) of DB. When they still haven't dubbed Reborn .

Though maybe I don't care as much as you guys but I don't see as MUCH issues with Blu-rays(Besides cropping) as you guys pointed out. Y'all be noticing those small details like blur on Vegeta's amour.

[Metalwario64]

But then, this is FUNimation we're talking about. When it comes to Dragon Ball, they don't always make the best business decisions.

Sure they do, the best business decisions for making money anyway.

Not when they're competing with themselves by having so many products out at once (the DVD Season Sets, Dragon Boxes, Level Sets and Kai were all out on the market at the same time). That's what I was getting at with that remark.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

But then, this is FUNimation we're talking about. When it comes to Dragon Ball, they don't always make the best business decisions.

Sure they do, the best business decisions for making money anyway.

Not when they're competing with themselves by having so many products out at once (the DVD Season Sets, Dragon Boxes, Level Sets and Kai were all out on the market at the same time). That's what I was getting at with that remark.

If the consumers are eating it up, then it's working.

[samuraix123]

Yup! And it'll continue to work until they release a perfect release that's remastered frame by frame in 4x3 that has both English and Japanese title cards and credits and it has the US broadcast score and the Japanese score. But that will never happen! And even if it does we'll still keep buying their other crap releases hahaha

[RocktheDragon]

Yup! And it'll continue to work until they release a perfect release that's remastered frame by frame in 4x3 that has both English and Japanese title cards and credits and it has the US broadcast score and the Japanese score. But that will never happen! And even if it does we'll still keep buying their other crap releases hahaha

I really don't think there could ever really be a "definitive" release of DBZ, either in Japan or America. People will eventually find something to fault a release no matter how good it is (Japanese and U.S. Dragon Boxes included).

[samuraix123]

I agree buddy. I've heard some people who hate the pink on the Dragon-boxes. doesn't bother me.