"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[MagmonKai]

I have no investment in new characters getting their own ships. They wanna sail, let 'um sail. Even if I'm not gonna care either way about them, someone somewhere will.

I'm with you on this! I'm not even sure if that's actually what's going on. It doesn't explicitly reveal a love interest between Kale and Cauli. These people are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I just want them to focus on wrapping up this recruiting arc.

[sintzu]

Kale is pretty much Dragon Ball Multiverse Broly. Her power continually rises

That'll explain how she'll be able to fight SsjB Vegeta (If the toy leak is anything to go by).

[Chuquita]

I have no investment in new characters getting their own ships. They wanna sail, let 'um sail. Even if I'm not gonna care either way about them, someone somewhere will.

I'm with you on this! I'm not even sure if that's actually what's going on. It doesn't explicitly reveal a love interest between Kale and Cauli. These people are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I just want them to focus on wrapping up this recruiting arc.

At least the monthly episode titles should be out some time in the next week or so. I also want to see the tournament started and those should hopefully reveal which weekend that'll be.

[precita]

Why do people get so offended by ships or pairings? Who cares what people like? Especially in a show like Dragonball where relationships are like the least thing focused on.

[SaiyanGod117]

Because sometimes there's no need for them.

[Ki Breaker]

Freeza Goku interactions cannot be any better..
Those two have faught to death and know each other so well they might as well be soul mates..
I love it!

Also, I am confused, is kale crushing on Cabba or Cauliflowa?

[Kanassa]

Also, I am confused, is kale crushing on Cabba or Cauliflowa?

Seems more like a "Get your fifthly hands way from my daughter/sister!" type of deal

[jcogginsa]

Freeza Goku interactions cannot be any better..
Those two have faught to death and know each other so well they might as well be soul mates..
I love it!

Also, I am confused, is kale crushing on Cabba or Cauliflowa?

She definitely isn't crushing on Cabba, that's for sure.

[SansrivaaL]

Freeza Goku interactions cannot be any better..
Those two have faught to death and know each other so well they might as well be soul mates..
I love it!

Also, I am confused, is kale crushing on Cabba or Cauliflowa?

She definitely isn't crushing on Cabba, that's for sure.

I'd say she's crushing him.. rather literally wanna crush him.

[Ki Breaker]

Freeza Goku interactions cannot be any better..
Those two have faught to death and know each other so well they might as well be soul mates..
I love it!

Also, I am confused, is kale crushing on Cabba or Cauliflowa?

She definitely isn't crushing on Cabba, that's for sure.

I'd say she's crushing him.. rather literally wanna crush him.

Ha!
Say, did anyone find the new Saiyan females personalities interesting at all?
Cauliflowa is your below average tsundere, and kale is your below average Yandere or berserker whatever you wanna call it..

There's nothing to look forward to here, expect if toriyama has plans for cauliflowa getting videled by Goku..
That get her to stop being a bossy prick

[TheQuazz]

I cannot, for the life of me, understand this "interaction" crap. Why do people want characters interacting with each other over a good story? Yeah, Freeza talked to Goku like how Freeza would talk to Goku, so what? Oh boy, Freeza's going to be really wacky having to work with all these former enemies! This is stuff that excites little children, demand a little bit more from your entertainment. I still can't get over the fact that they dropped a potentially interesting character from the cast only to shove in Mr Merchandise-Seller, and people act like it's somehow a good idea that benefits the show. The way this has been implemented is so cynical, they just throw Freeza right in like he's the only possible way to save the universe, they didn't even acknowledge that Gotenks exists. "Oh, but Gotenks is waaay to risky and uncooperative!" And Freeza isn't?! Besides, it could be a good opportunity to give Gotenks some kind of development, maybe he had to be trained or something? I don't know, anything's better than FREEZA again. The show could have at least made some kind of excuse for Gotenks themselves, but no, we're stuck with whatever crap people come up with to defend a decision obviously driven more by corporate greed than actually creativity or a desire to tell a good story. Speaking of which, the story of Super (you know, the thing that's actually important in a series) has been very lacklustre recently too. I don't think anything's been better than serviceable since the Krillin episode, every event has just kind of happened on screen without any kind of character development or heart to it. The animation and music have been good I guess, but nothing makes me feel any emotion whatsoever. Whenever I tune in to Super it just feels like I'm dead for 20 minutes. Some things have been offensively stupid too, like the Kale stuff today. Wow, a shy and fragile girl getting really mad and turning into a raging brute, what a creative idea for a character! These recent episodes have really been a wake-up call that I've been wasting too much of my time caring about a show for little kids with as much intelligence and substance as a little kids' show and with fans that have the same requirements for good entertainment as little kids. Silly me for thinking that whoever's responsible for Super actually tried to make a good show after the whole "reboot" it got after the Black arc. I've given Dragon Ball way too many second chances, nothing made since the Bardock Special (and maybe Battle of Gods) has actually been good enough to warrant my time, yet I still keep coming back expecting the series to magically produce some kind of worthwhile content. Well, it hasn't. So unless one of my friends tells me that something really damn good happens in this arc, I'm done with Dragon Ball. No point in obsessing over something that has stagnated in mediocrity for over 25 years. (This is probably a contender for the worst post ever, but I sunk too much time into it to not Submit it)

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I cannot, for the life of me, understand this "interaction" crap. Why do people want characters interacting with each other over a good story? Yeah, Freeza talked to Goku like how Freeza would talk to Goku, so what? Oh boy, Freeza's going to be really wacky having to work with all these former enemies! This is stuff that excites little children, demand a little bit more from your entertainment.

Sorry... WHAT? The character interactions are the story! Judging by the rant that comes after what I've quoted, your problem seems to be more that you didn't get the character interactions you wanted. You even quite stereotypically blame it on the evil capitalist machine. It's a little ridiculous.

[TheQuazz]

So, if an entire arc consisted of characters talking to each other, that would be a story? Okay, sure. If seeing your "favourite" characters "interacting" is what you like to see in entertainment, eat it up. But I actually want to see an engaging plot unfold, and I wouldn't be excited for "interactions" no matter what characters were involved. I mean sure, I'd probably like them, but I'd understand that they don't really make the show any good. After all, Freeza is one of my favourites. Characters are only one part of a story, what happens to them over the course of it is what's investing.

[DainIronfoot]

Now we know why they made this image of Sidra back in January!



Universe 4 and 9 are bad guys.

I too wondered about Sidra getting showed that early and the fact that in the opening he's in the front looking scary. However, remember, that Angel in the pic is U8's angel.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

So, if an entire arc consisted of characters talking to each other, that would be a story? Okay, sure. If seeing your "favourite" characters "interacting" is what you like to see in entertainment, eat it up. But I actually want to see a plot unfold, and I wouldn't be excited for "interactions" no matter what characters were involved. That's the kind of stuff you get from a video game or something. Characters are only one part of a story, what happens to them over the course of it is what's investing.

Okay... I'm legitimately not sure what you're talking about at all. Maybe you don't understand what an interaction is? You can't have a plot without character interactions, because then all you have left is an empty cardboard box alone in a closet for 20 minutes a week.

Perhaps there's a disconnect in your mind between what characters do and how events unfold?

No matter what angle I look at this from, you're either communicating poorly, haven't thought this out, or you aren't putting these ideas out in good faith.

[Freeza9000]

So, if an entire arc consisted of characters talking to each other, that would be a story? Okay, sure. If seeing your "favourite" characters "interacting" is what you like to see in entertainment, eat it up. But I actually want to see an engaging plot unfold, and I wouldn't be excited for "interactions" no matter what characters were involved. I mean sure, I'd probably like them, but I'd understand that they don't really make the show any good. After all, Freeza is one of my favourites. Characters are only one part of a story, what happens to them over the course of it is what's investing.

You do realize that character interactions and dialogue are also what makes the story worth investing, right? You speak of them like they are very trivial when they aren't.

[Boo Machine]

So, if an entire arc consisted of characters talking to each other, that would be a story? Okay, sure. If seeing your "favourite" characters "interacting" is what you like to see in entertainment, eat it up. But I actually want to see an engaging plot unfold, and I wouldn't be excited for "interactions" no matter what characters were involved. I mean sure, I'd probably like them, but I'd understand that they don't really make the show any good. After all, Freeza is one of my favourites. Characters are only one part of a story, what happens to them over the course of it is what's investing.

Without character interactions, you don't get a plot. You would just have characters walking around not acknowledging each other. At best. Freeza is as popular as he is because of how he interacts with our heros and his victims.

[precita]

I'm starting to think some people think Dragonball is only about characters fighting and yelling for entire episodes. It seems these last batch of episodes are making people aware of what Dragonball actually is.

[TheQuazz]

Yeah, I don't think I explained myself well. Of course "interactions" are essential to a story, how are we supposed to know anything about the characters if they don't talk? What I'm taking issue with are interactions for interaction's sake, people are just looking forward to Freeza interacting with everybody whether or not it's a part of a good narrative. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how adding Freeza into the mix is going to make the story any better.

[precita]

Yeah, I don't think I explained myself well. Of course "interactions" are essential to a story, how are we supposed to know anything about the characters if they don't talk? What I'm taking issue with are interactions for interaction's sake, people are just looking forward to Freeza interacting with everybody whether or not it's a part of a good narrative or not. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how adding Freeza into the mix is going to make the story any better.

The fact that Freeza is a villain, that most of the main cast hates him, and that he has an uneasy alliance with them for the tournament, is exactly why they want or are looking forward to seeing how he interacts with the cast. For others it's merely curiosity.

For example I want to see 17 and 18 finally interact on screen again since we haven't seen that since the mid-Cell saga over a decade and a half ago. It's character dynamics.