"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

If Freeza goes to a different universe, then I'll hate his inclusion. I only liked it because I thought they were doing something different with the character.

[Marlowe89]

Frieza betraying Universe 7 makes no sense and doesn't benefit him in any way, nor does it really give him a big shot at presumably getting revenge on Goku. Maybe he's actually planning to betray Universe 9 in the end?

Bizarre "leaks" either way.

[precita]

Frieza betraying Universe 7 makes no sense and doesn't benefit him in any way, nor does it really give him a big shot at presumably getting revenge on Goku. Maybe he's actually planning to betray Universe 9 in the end?
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Why not? I keep seeing people say this.

Freeza gets out of Hell, he gets a chance of being revived with the Super Dragonballs, and he doesn't give a damn about Goku and co. either way. Likewise his entire army is practically dead or nothing in U7 now. And as said, he'll take his revenge on Goku and others yet again.

If anything it makes more sense for Freeza. Why should he care about U7? Now that he knows there are other universes out there he could potentially try to take over other ones if he got the chance

[Simere]

What makes this weird for me is he knows he's fighting Goku and Vegeta again if he goes to U4, dont tell me he thinks he's good enough to match up to either one of them? I thought Freeza was better than that. He knows first hand how powerful Goku is and even admits it, his best chance of resurrection is with Goku, not with some random universe who he has no idea how powerful is to begin with, at least with Goku's proposal he can get stronger after he trains when the ToP ends, as he is right now with that stamina issue he is done for.

But he's not alone is he. People keep forgetting this is a team game. Frieza will have the U4 team and 6 other teams behind him.

Yeah, exactly. Freeza defecting to another universe means he not only has a shot of resurrecting, but also taking immediate revenge on top of it. Why wouldn't Freeza accept that? Should he just forget the people who put him in hell in the first place and work with them? Or try and make them all die right away? Besides, Universe 7 vanishing would mean his hell would be gone too, regardless of getting his wish granted or not. I have a feeling that will come up when he's offered a deal by the U4 people.

I might be misunderstanding you, but Freeza wouldn't be in hell if he got his wish. With U7 he has two chances at getting it.

[Zamasu55]

Bleh. As I said before, this is getting highly ridiculous.

If Yamcha joins, there are going to be literally three useless characters (Him, Roshi and Tiensinhan). Bleh.
Anyway, that "he" is gonna be either Yamcha or Buu. But the latter is unlikely, since he needs two months to wake up. So, unless the leaks are fake, which I surely hope they are, Yamcha'll be the 10th warrior. Bleh.

[precita]

If Yamcha joins, there are going to be literally three useless characters (Him, Roshi and Tiensinhan). Bleh.

You don't know if they'll be useless, and chances are they won't be. They wouldn't bother to bring so many main characters in this if they were all going to lose in 30 seconds.

I mean in all seriousness, do people expect all the humans to lose quickly? What would be the point then?

[Totamo]

yeah, people are split on this.

Some people want Freeza to do this because it goes against his character to fight for the side of good, which is what he will do.


Some don't want it because its not interesting or new.



I'm in the former camp

[TheSaiyanGod]

Freeza has not become a good person, he is fighting for his own interests.

He does not care about Goku and the others, he just wants to win the tournament to be revived.

He has no guarantee of being revived if he joins the universe 4.
The God of Destruction there tried to kill him, and the emperor barely knows this universe.

If he stays with the team in the 7th Universe he has much more guarantee of being revived (He has the Super Dragon Balls, the Earth Dragon Balls and the Namek Dragon Balls)

Incidentally, Dragon Garow Lee posted this on his twitter.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

'' I brought the tenth member ''

Is some kind of confirmation that Freeza will actually leave the team or did he just want to make a joke out of it?

[Sandubadear]

Freeza has not become a good person, he is fighting for his own interests.

He does not care about Goku and the others, he just wants to win the tournament to be revived.

He has no guarantee of being revived if he joins the universe 4.
The God of Destruction there tried to kill him, and the emperor barely knows this universe.

If he stays with the team in the 7th Universe he has much more guarantee of being revived (He has the Super Dragon Balls, the Earth Dragon Balls and the Namek Dragon Balls)

Incidentally, Dragon Garow Lee posted this on his twitter.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

'' I brought the tenth member ''

Is some kind of confirmation that Freeza will actually leave the team or did he just want to make a joke out of it?

This drawing was posted before the leak.

[Black_Liger]

What if Freeza acts like the double agent and catches off guard the main guns of U4 (Or maybe the entire team) to reduce the competition and then goes back to U7 to secure victory or make it easier? That seems like the type of thing Freeza would do, later he joins Frost but does the same and betrays him then sistematically removes some of U6's team members too.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Freeza has not become a good person, he is fighting for his own interests.

He does not care about Goku and the others, he just wants to win the tournament to be revived.

He has no guarantee of being revived if he joins the universe 4.
The God of Destruction there tried to kill him, and the emperor barely knows this universe.

If he stays with the team in the 7th Universe he has much more guarantee of being revived (He has the Super Dragon Balls, the Earth Dragon Balls and the Namek Dragon Balls)

Incidentally, Dragon Garow Lee posted this on his twitter.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

'' I brought the tenth member ''

Is some kind of confirmation that Freeza will actually leave the team or did he just want to make a joke out of it?

This drawing was posted before the leak.

Oh really?
So the only clue we have about this possible Freeza's betrayal and the introduction of a new member is what Yamcha's Seyuu posted on Twitter

I think we will only know around the 10th, that the scans of the magazines Newtype and Animedia

[Araki]

But he's not alone is he. People keep forgetting this is a team game. Frieza will have the U4 team and 6 other teams behind him.

Yeah, exactly. Freeza defecting to another universe means he not only has a shot of resurrecting, but also taking immediate revenge on top of it. Why wouldn't Freeza accept that? Should he just forget the people who put him in hell in the first place and work with them? Or try and make them all die right away? Besides, Universe 7 vanishing would mean his hell would be gone too, regardless of getting his wish granted or not. I have a feeling that will come up when he's offered a deal by the U4 people.

I might be misunderstanding you, but Freeza wouldn't be in hell if he got his wish. With U7 he has two chances at getting it.

You probably was, as that has nothing to do with it. I was saying that even in the possible outcome of U4 wins/Freeza doesn't get his wish, U7 would be gone, his hell would be gone. We don't know exactly how it works if a dead person doesn't have a place of "eternal rest" holding him back anymore (there's no precedent in the series, is there?), and that's what i feel will come up when the U4 makes contact with Freeza. I wouldn't be surprised if they promise him freedom. I think this is an important point that some people are missing.

On the other hand, if he remains in U7, they win AND he gets his wish, even so there will always be the chance he gets killed again the very next day and is sent back to that same hell he hates again. Could the U4 people try to kill him? Sure, but then again, how many times the U7 guys killed him already? 3? Why wouldn't they do it again? Goku could keep his word, but what about Vegeta? There are many risks he will take remaining there and fighting to keep U7 alive, anyway. He probably does have better odds if he leaves.

That said, i'm not convinced Freeza will have a big role in the tournament. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if Golden Freeza gets crushed to hype someone else.

[Terez]

Toshio Yoshitaka confirmed that he wrote 94. That's our first confirmation of anything in the leaks. (Thanks to Kagari for asking him.)

[Venus]

I don't know why most people believe Frieza is going to prepare a sheme with Frost, so far we have seen Frost is not even half as bad as Frieza, yes he is a ass, I won't deny it, but I can't imagine him being a complete Frieza Clone.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Toshio Yoshitaka confirmed that he wrote 94. That's our first confirmation of anything in the leaks. (Thanks to Kagari for asking him.)

I only saw the synopses and titles.

In the spoilers that came out today, it appears that Toshio Yoshitaka is on the Staff of episode 94?

Is that part of these leaks?

[Totamo]

Freeza has not become a good person, he is fighting for his own interests.

He does not care about Goku and the others, he just wants to win the tournament to be revived.

He has no guarantee of being revived if he joins the universe 4.
The God of Destruction there tried to kill him, and the emperor barely knows this universe.

If he stays with the team in the 7th Universe he has much more guarantee of being revived (He has the Super Dragon Balls, the Earth Dragon Balls and the Namek Dragon Balls)

Incidentally, Dragon Garow Lee posted this on his twitter.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

'' I brought the tenth member ''

Is some kind of confirmation that Freeza will actually leave the team or did he just want to make a joke out of it?

But if he is fighting on our side what makes him different from cell saga vegeta, who may have still not been good couldn't be called purely evil.

[BlueBasilisk]

I don't know why most people believe Frieza is going to prepare a sheme with Frost, so far we have seen Frost is not even half as bad as Frieza, yes he is a ass, I won't deny it, but I can't imagine him being a complete Frieza Clone.

Frieza's VA said at a convention that he had recently recorded dialogue with Frieza talking to Frost and that they might be scheming.

[Terez]

I don't know why most people believe Frieza is going to prepare a sheme with Frost

Because their VA said so at Animazement. We got reports on that from people we trust.

Toshio Yoshitaka confirmed that he wrote 94. That's our first confirmation of anything in the leaks. (Thanks to Kagari for asking him.)

I only saw the synopses and titles.

In the spoilers that came out today, it appears that Toshio Yoshitaka is on the Staff of episode 94?

Is that part of these leaks?

I posted staff upthread a bit (not far).

[Psykomatik]

Toshio Yoshitaka confirmed that he wrote 94. That's our first confirmation of anything in the leaks. (Thanks to Kagari for asking him.)

https://twitter.com/toshio916/status/866122210439827457
He already said it two weeks ago.

[JulieYBM]

Hmmm...I much rather Freeza not be replaced here. He can switch sodes, but I want that to count against Universe Seven and then eventually leave the door open for Freeza to rejoin mid-tournament.