The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:03 am

Mjb1985 wrote:Base Vegeta vs Suppressed Piccolo

During the Androids Saga.
Depends if you believe in Base Saiyans>Piccolo or Piccolo>Base Saiyans. If you believe in the the former, then it's Vegeta. If you believe in Piccolo>Base Saiyans then it would be Piccolo winning.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:13 am

Which is why the topic is interesting. Which side do you lean on? Why?

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Post by In Brightest Day » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:29 am

It's not interesting when every single argument that can be made for either side has been done to death.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:17 am

I highly doubt this Versus has been debated to death. Perhaps you should re-read who is actually matched up.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:15 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Piccolo Complete vs SSJ3 Gotenks

Piccolo complete is when in supersonic warriors he combined with Piccolo Daimao. He was equal with Super Boo. Though he said he couldn't destroy him. Gotenks can though. So they may have a minor difference in power between them.
If that's so, then Piccolo would win, due to superior intelligence, skill, experience, and that Gotenks is an arrogant showboater who'd probably underestimate Piccolo at first anyway and eventually end up running out of his five minutes.
Mjb1985 wrote:Base Vegeta vs Suppressed Piccolo

During the Androids Saga.
Piccolo wins easily.
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Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:12 am

So what to make of Gero's statement that now that Vegeta has arrived, things can get interesting?

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:20 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:So what to make of Gero's statement that now that Vegeta has arrived, things can get interesting?
Gero's still relying on his outdated and now incorrect calculations of Vegeta being stronger than Piccolo, like he was back in the Saiyan arc. And before you say, "Well, he had a power sensor; couldn't he have just compared Vegeta and Piccolo's power then and there?" Piccolo later mentions that he was suppressed, part of the reason why Gero was so surprised when Piccolo was effortlessly dominating him, and besides, Gero just knows, following his data, that Vegeta's meant to be stronger than Piccolo. Literally all of his data is based on what happened before the heroes went to Namek, but a lot changed on Namek. He's simply not a reliable figure to base strength estimations on, considering that he gets pretty much everything wrong about the main warriors.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:18 pm

Exactly why the fight is

Base Vegeta vs Suppressed Piccolo

And not FP Piccolo.

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Post by In Brightest Day » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:04 pm

Kuririn vs. Kami-Sama.

Both are at their beginning of Z battle powers.

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Post by Kaboom » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:39 pm

Pretty sure Kami would still be a decent bit ahead of Kuririn in power, and having not trained under him yet, Kuririn would still be lacking the ki-sensing skills and other such tricks required to tip the scales of an even-power fight, much make up for a difference in power. Kami wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:29 am

Tenshinhan can't see Son Goku ( w/o weights )

Tenshinhan knows that wasn't Son Goku's full power.

Tenshinhan couldn't imagine that anyone could be as strong as Shen.

Shen wasn't the full abilities of Kami.

Whew that was a lot.

Now 5 years is enough any to close any gap do to plot determining power , but it doesn't seem anyone got significantly stronger over the course of the 5 years. Kuririn and Co. aren't that far ahead of Muten Roshi .

So I doubt they closed the enormous gap Kami had on them.

Also don't forget that the humans were completely useless in the battle of Goku vs Piccollo.

There's a lot of evidence that suggests the humans weren't on par with Kami during the beginning of Z based on all of that IMO.

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Post by Saiga » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:32 am

Kaboom wrote:Pretty sure Kami would still be a decent bit ahead of Kuririn in power, and having not trained under him yet, Kuririn would still be lacking the ki-sensing skills and other such tricks required to tip the scales of an even-power fight, much make up for a difference in power. Kami wins.
Agreed, though I think Kurilin would still put up a good fight considering his showing against Piccolo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:48 am

Kuririn didn't fight Piccolo at his maximum power though, I wouldn't look too too much into that fight.

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Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:10 am

Neither was Piccolo against Kami. No one is saying Kuririn was on his level, just that it was impressive despite being outmatched.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:23 am

In Brightest Day wrote:Kuririn vs. Kami-Sama.

Both are at their beginning of Z battle powers.
Kami wins. easily.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:32 am

She is kind of in the Universe so I'm setting this up anyways.

Arale vs Dragonball

Not everyone at once. This is 1 on 1 with Arale and every fighter in the dragonball universe. DB-GT. How far would Arale go. Personally I'm not sure she can be beat. I have never seen her actually go all out, and her playing around feats pretty much destroy dragonball strength feats. Not sure about her maximum speed but this is a good example.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:37 am

As said in the Kochikame crossover, gag characters can't be defeated!!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:52 am

In Brightest Day wrote:Kuririn vs. Kami-Sama.
Kami wins, but not very easily.
dbzfan7 wrote:Arale vs Dragonball
Arale eventually destroys Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. No one in Dragon Ball has the feats Arale has, plus she is a gag character.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by hleV » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:30 am

Vegetto destroys Arale without problem.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:53 am

Couldn't one say that Tao's feat on General Blue was superior to Arale's?

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