"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:00 am

Lord Frieza wrote:Well nothing's disproved yet. While Frieza will slaughter the assassins that dose not change the fact the Goku at least would have trouble since we already know he cannot sense their ki. Also Frieza out right murdering people against Goku's wishs could also support the idea that he'll join U4 since he's already trying to spite Goku.

But it dose confirm one thing, U9 is screwed. They are going to lose their fighters and that will be the end of them once the tournament starts.
The leaks from the summary of 95 already had a big difference in it, the leaks says they were having a hard time fighting against those assassins because of the ki thing being different again, the scans that came out from Herms mentioned none of the ki stuffs, just Freeza murdering those assassins and Goku trying to cover up Freeza's killing spree by defeating the ones near him, basically the earlier leaks were implying they were having a hard time against those enemies while the scans from herms were implying Freeza was having the time of his life killing them while Goku's covering up Freeza. Another big difference is the scans from Herms says the assassins were a bunch of mysterious gangs, the leaks says the assassins were the participants of the ToP.

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Post by Kanassa » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:03 am

precita wrote:
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DBZ_Lee wrote:Either way, it seems as though Yamcha's VA is busier than usual, and clearly has knowledge he can't yet share.

https://mobile.twitter.com/torushome/st ... 8956097536

It doesn't prove Yamcha is in the team, but it seems as though he has a lot of dialogue at least.
This is definitely something we can't deny.

I doubt we'll get a Yamcha spin-off OVA produced before the much needed (canon) Jaco one, so I can only imagine that this is what it's for.
I can't imagine why Yamcha's VA would be "exhausted" from recording lines either. Yamcha's been in 3 episodes since this new arc started, and he's only been in short scenes in all of them.

The only possible way his VA would get exhausted is if Yamcha is in a full episode or has a lot of fighting or yelling scenes...I dunno.
This could mean that something could be happening on Earth while the tournament is happening
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:09 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:Well nothing's disproved yet. While Frieza will slaughter the assassins that dose not change the fact the Goku at least would have trouble since we already know he cannot sense their ki. Also Frieza out right murdering people against Goku's wishs could also support the idea that he'll join U4 since he's already trying to spite Goku.

But it dose confirm one thing, U9 is screwed. They are going to lose their fighters and that will be the end of them once the tournament starts.
The leaks from the summary of 95 already had a big difference in it, the leaks says they were having a hard time fighting against those assassins because of the ki thing being different again, the scans that came out from Herms mentioned none of the ki stuffs, just Freeza murdering those assassins and Goku trying to cover up Freeza's killing spree by defeating the ones near him, basically the earlier leaks were implying they were having a hard time against those enemies while the scans from herms were implying Freeza was having the time of his life killing them while Goku's covering up Freeza. Another big difference is the scans from Herms says the assassins were a bunch of mysterious gangs, the leaks says the assassins were the participants of the ToP.
First off, who are U9 going to send other then their own best guys...? They have got none stronger who could potential be a threat to Frieza.

Also only Goku would have trouble with guys he cannot sense the ki of, which Herms's translation pretty much supports given that he cannot stop Frieza. Frieza on the other hand has never been able to sense ki, so him having any issue would not makes sense

So no, the preview dose not disprove anything and we have had multiple previews give us varying details on the events of an episode before. Unitl we see that its not the U9 team, their is no reason not to suspect it wont be and until we see Frieza not join U4 then those leaks have not been disproved.

Edit: Even Herms has acknowledge such things by putting "yet" next to his translations.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:14 am

Lord Frieza wrote:
First off, who are U9 going to send other then their own best guys.... They have got none stronger who could potential be a threat to Frieza.

Also only Goku would have trouble with guys he cannot sense the ki of, which Herms's translation pretty much supports given that he cannot stop Frieza. Frieza on the other hand has never been able to sense ki, so him having any issue would not makes sense

So no, the preview dose not disprove anything and we have had multiple previews give us varying details on the events of an episode before. Unitl we see that its not the U9 team, their is no reason not to suspect it wont be and until we see Frieza not join U4 then those leaks have not been disproved.

Edit: Even Herms has acknowledge such things by put "yet" next to his translations.
The "leak" said that Freeza was having trouble with the assassins too, not just Goku. We've never had two legit previews have conflicting info.
Also Freeza has been able to sense Ki since the F arc, he specifically mentioned being able to sense Goku, so just like Vegeta he taught himself.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:15 am

Lord Frieza wrote: First off, who are U9 going to send other then their own best guys.... They have got none stronger who could potential be a threat to Frieza.

Also only Goku would have trouble with guys he cannot sense the ki of, which Herms's translation pretty much supports given that he cannot stop Frieza. Frieza on the other hand has never been able to sense ki, so him having any issue would not makes sense

So no, the preview dose not disprove anything and we have had multiple previews give us varying details on the events of an episode before. Unitl we see that its not the U9 team, their is no reason not to suspect it wont be and until we see Frieza not join U4 then those leaks have not been disproved.
Obviously assassins who are good with... I dont know.... assassin stuffs? sending off their participants and risk them getting injured this close to the tournament would be pretty dumb unless the rat GoD and Sidra forgot Goku's fight with Bergamo and Toppo.

Well you just added why the leaks didnt make sense, those leaks made it sound like they were having a hard time because those guys doesnt have ki, not just Goku but both of them, while Herms' scans never implied that Goku nor Freeza was having a hard time, just Goku covering up Freeza and Freeza going wild.

So yes it disaproves everything.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:21 am

ArchedThunder wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
First off, who are U9 going to send other then their own best guys.... They have got none stronger who could potential be a threat to Frieza.

Also only Goku would have trouble with guys he cannot sense the ki of, which Herms's translation pretty much supports given that he cannot stop Frieza. Frieza on the other hand has never been able to sense ki, so him having any issue would not makes sense

So no, the preview dose not disprove anything and we have had multiple previews give us varying details on the events of an episode before. Unitl we see that its not the U9 team, their is no reason not to suspect it wont be and until we see Frieza not join U4 then those leaks have not been disproved.

Edit: Even Herms has acknowledge such things by put "yet" next to his translations.
The "leak" said that Freeza was having trouble with the assassins too, not just Goku.
Also Freeza has been able to sense Ki since the F arc, he specifically mentioned being able to sense Goku, so just like Vegeta he taught himself.
Were did it state that please? Specifically which episode.

Beside in his Golden Form none of the U9 lot, not even Bergamo in his base would stand a chance. The assassins getting slaughters was already a very likely outcome given that Goku and Frieza were going to walk away from all this.

So tell me what stopping events from going like this "the assassins show up and attack, the get the drop on Goku and Frieza because they cannot sense their ki, they fight for a bit then Frieza goes Gold and starts murdering them while Goku is held up since his fighting nicely. As one of the assassins falls down died his hood is pulled back revealing one of the brothers much to Goku's shock. Then Quitela shows up and makes his offer to Frieza while Goku is still distracted".

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:29 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote: First off, who are U9 going to send other then their own best guys.... They have got none stronger who could potential be a threat to Frieza.

Also only Goku would have trouble with guys he cannot sense the ki of, which Herms's translation pretty much supports given that he cannot stop Frieza. Frieza on the other hand has never been able to sense ki, so him having any issue would not makes sense

So no, the preview dose not disprove anything and we have had multiple previews give us varying details on the events of an episode before. Unitl we see that its not the U9 team, their is no reason not to suspect it wont be and until we see Frieza not join U4 then those leaks have not been disproved.
Obviously assassins who are good with... I dont know.... assassin stuffs? sending off their participants and risk them getting injured this close to the tournament would be pretty dumb unless the rat GoD and Sidra forgot Goku's fight with Bergamo and Toppo.

Well you just added why the leaks didnt make sense, those leaks made it sound like they were having a hard time because those guys doesnt have ki, not just Goku but both of them, while Herms' scans never implied that Goku nor Freeza was having a hard time, just Goku covering up Freeza and Freeza going wild.

So yes it disaproves everything.
Read my above post "The assassin could just get the drop on them due to their lack of ki first and Goku is trying not to kill them"

So no I have not included why it dose not make sense. Also its never said that Quitela would ever get his hands dirty, its only Sidra. And their in lies another of my points.

A previous preview for this episode has already told us Sidra would get involved and the new one dose not mention him at all. Different previews can and do tell you different information about the episodes events.

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Post by Totamo » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:31 am

The leaks said they were struggling, Herms says they were slaughtering assassins. Thats pretty conflicting.


I don't think they are real, sorry Yamcha fans.

However, this is only 94-95, we have to see 96 to confirm.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:33 am

Lord Frieza wrote: Were did it state that please? Specifically which episode.
Right when he goes Golden in episode 25.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:34 am

I'm hoping Yamcha's getting to play a major role for once, but I'm not holding my breath. I REALLY hope he gets to be the tenth member though. I'd rather Frieza not be in this arc at all, but I'd rather him fuck off to another team than be on universe 7's.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:40 am

Lord Frieza wrote: Read my above post "The assassin could just get the drop on them due to their lack of ki first and Goku is trying not to kill them"

So no I have not included why it dose not make sense. Also its never said that Quitela would ever get his hands dirty, its only Sidra. And their in lies another of my points.

A previous preview for this episode has already told us Sidra would get involved and the new one dose not mention him at all. Different previews can and do tell you different information about the episodes events.
You're reconstructing the summaries in favor of it making sense, of course it would make sense since youre adding/implying stuffs and giving out your own theories, nothing implies what you say can come true, what we do know is the leaks and scan that Herms got contradicts each other as well as the title does, the leak title was implying this was gonna be a huge opportunity for U4 making the title sound like Goku and Freeza are trapped by U4, while the scans was hyping Freeza up.
Leaks mentions Goku and Freeza were forced to fight opponents that doesnt have ki and they're having a hard time against them.
The leaks mentions who in particular are the ones that will attack, the scans mention its a mysterious gang which makes more sense, why in the world would they send their fighters instead of assassins who's better suited for the job? thats like them giving out more info about their fighters fighting style.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:40 am

Totamo wrote:The leaks said they were struggling, Herms says they were slaughtering assassins. Thats pretty conflicting.


I don't think they are real, sorry Yamcha fans.

However, this is only 94-95, we have to see 96 to confirm.
Yup! The title is different too now the summary itself is conflicting and doesn't even mention Quitela. I'm now thinking they're fake and this goes with the animation staff being off too.

I was a fool to even entertain the idea these were legit.

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Post by emperior » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:46 am

Why would they even make a Freezer's picture which would fit with the main team visual, if he isn't fighting with U7? It would make no sense. I also don't think Quitela will be able to offer him a better deal than what Goku offered.
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emperior wrote:Why would they even make a Freezer's picture which would fit with the main team visual, if he isn't fighting with U7? It would make no sense. I also don't think Quitela will be able to offer him a better deal than what Goku offered.
Goku offered him the Dragon balls that can't really help Frieza... so perhaps that Rat can actualy revive him some other way.

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emperior wrote:Why would they even make a Freezer's picture which would fit with the main team visual, if he isn't fighting with U7? It would make no sense. I also don't think Quitela will be able to offer him a better deal than what Goku offered.
Lets be honest with ourselves, Goku offered him a pretty crappy deal.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:54 am

Totamo wrote:
emperior wrote:Why would they even make a Freezer's picture which would fit with the main team visual, if he isn't fighting with U7? It would make no sense. I also don't think Quitela will be able to offer him a better deal than what Goku offered.
Lets be honest with ourselves, Goku offered him a pretty crappy deal.
Eh it was a pretty ok deal, he gets revived what more can he ask for? universal domination?

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Post by IM21 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:56 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Totamo wrote:
emperior wrote:Why would they even make a Freezer's picture which would fit with the main team visual, if he isn't fighting with U7? It would make no sense. I also don't think Quitela will be able to offer him a better deal than what Goku offered.
Lets be honest with ourselves, Goku offered him a pretty crappy deal.
Eh it was a pretty ok deal, he gets revived what more can he ask for? universal domination?
Shenlong can't revive Frieza again, so has Goku actually done something very smart or did Toei forget that.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:00 am

IM21 wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Totamo wrote: Lets be honest with ourselves, Goku offered him a pretty crappy deal.
Eh it was a pretty ok deal, he gets revived what more can he ask for? universal domination?
Shenlong can't revive Frieza again, so has Goku actually done something very smart or did Toei forget that.
That or Goku will use the namekian balls instead, or Dende can just upgrade it when the time comes,I just dont see Goku as the type of character who would be so smart like that.

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Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:03 am

These leakes seem to be fake, as Freeza isn't struggling at all against the assassins, unlike the leaks said. Thanks, God.

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Post by Basako » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:10 am

emperior wrote:Why would they even make a Freezer's picture which would fit with the main team visual, if he isn't fighting with U7? It would make no sense. I also don't think Quitela will be able to offer him a better deal than what Goku offered.
The same reason they made Boo part of all the promotion before. To make fans talk about it and then come with the surprise.

Quitela can offer the same wish for the winner that is the prize of the tounament. Also, a chance to screw Goku again, that's something Freeza will accept.

I'm pretty sure Freeza going to U4 will come to be, I have more doubts about Yamcha. We'll have to wait.
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