"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:29 am

alakazam^ wrote:Also, why is this Youtube drama nonsense continuing? It's a waste of time idolizing those people and giving them money for stuff they steal from here, might as well just come to the forums anyway and you'll end up with less misinformation and less entitled egos on the internet.
Unsure about whom you are referring to, but as far as Youtubers stealing things, if they steal anything from anybody, its from Herms on Twitter, not you or anything else on this board. If yours have been used w/o being credited, well, it wasn't me, and I cant control anybody.

Also, not everybody wants to come to the forums and search for things. I've promoted Herms on every single video I have ever done and I've done several discussions with Jake (more than anybody else on Youtube). Youtube is the 2nd largest search engine on Earth, not the Kanzenshuu Forum (unfortunately because I like this forum). And despite me promoting Herms harder than anybody, a very very large number of people would rather hear the thoughts of someone they respect AND the spoilers vs just reading the spoilers. Even though I like to read, not everybody does.
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Post by MagmonKai » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:36 am

We still need the summaries, it would be funny if some parts are true. But I'm hoping they aren't for the simple fact that I was getting sick of all the Yamcha speculation.

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Post by MagmonKai » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:41 am

Geekdom101 wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:Also, why is this Youtube drama nonsense continuing? It's a waste of time idolizing those people and giving them money for stuff they steal from here, might as well just come to the forums anyway and you'll end up with less misinformation and less entitled egos on the internet.
Unsure about whom you are referring to, but as far as Youtubers stealing things, if they steal anything from anybody, its from Herms on Twitter, not you or anything else on this board. If yours have been used w/o being credited, well, it wasn't me, and I cant control anybody.

Also, not everybody wants to come to the forums and search for things. I've promoted Herms on every single video I have ever done and I've done several discussions with Jake (more than anybody else on Youtube). Youtube is the 2nd largest search engine on Earth, not the Kanzenshuu Forum (unfortunately because I like this forum). And despite me promoting Herms harder than anybody, a very very large number of people would rather hear the thoughts of someone they respect AND the spoilers vs just reading the spoilers. Even though I like to read, not everybody does.
Before I came here I didn't know about Herms, thanks to Geekdom101 I heard about him and followed him on Twitter and from there to Kanzenshuu.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:43 am

Hit!! wrote:The internet can be so harsh sometimes.

Guys, despite the outstanding job Geekdom101 has done for the community through YT, he's only human and things like this can happen to anyone. Absolutely every one of us thought these leaks were true. The most influencial people in the fandom thought these leaks were true, even people like Ajay if i recall correctly. The truth is, the fake news was so well elaborated, that it was really credible and the news came from a page that has a lot of credibility.

Sometimes people are too judgemental and forget that the community leaders are also human and can make mistakes.

Other people just look for easy targets to discharge all of their frustration at them.
You know what's more reliable than influential community members? Time. Not a tremendous amount of time, just a few days maybe. Time enough to reliably and without a shadow of a doubt confirm what's a leak and what's a forgery.

Can we not make excuses? It was dumb, it was insanely preventable, and literally noone of note cares anyway. Quite frankly, I see no reason why the discussion need continue, as if Geekdom is some lowly peasant boy who tripped and had his trusty dog stolen from him. "Oh! The injustice!" I can say with relative certainty that he's a big boy capable of speaking for himself, apologizing for himself, and learning for himself.
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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:45 am

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Hit!! wrote:The internet can be so harsh sometimes.

Guys, despite the outstanding job Geekdom101 has done for the community through YT, he's only human and things like this can happen to anyone. Absolutely every one of us thought these leaks were true. The most influencial people in the fandom thought these leaks were true, even people like Ajay if i recall correctly. The truth is, the fake news was so well elaborated, that it was really credible and the news came from a page that has a lot of credibility.

Sometimes people are too judgemental and forget that the community leaders are also human and can make mistakes.

Other people just look for easy targets to discharge all of their frustration at them.
You know what's more reliable than influential community members? Time. Not a tremendous amount of time, just a few days maybe. Time enough to reliably and without a shadow of a doubt confirm what's a leak and what's a forgery.

Can we not make excuses? It was dumb, it was insanely preventable, and literally noone of note cares anyway. Quite frankly, I see no reason why the discussion need continue, as if Geekdom is some lowly peasant boy who tripped and had his trusty dog stolen from him. "Oh! The injustice!" I can say with relative certainty that he's a big boy capable of speaking for himself, apologizing for himself, and learning for himself.
Like I said man, EVERY TIME i have been wrong, I have manned up. There hasn't been a single time I haven't. But people are legit acting like I poisoned their children over this... and the funny part is,i was the LAST one to upload. Every other "Youtuber" did it first.
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Post by HeroR » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:51 am

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Like I said man, EVERY TIME i have been wrong, I have manned up. There hasn't been a single time I haven't. But people are legit acting like I poisoned their children over this... and the funny part is,i was the LAST one to upload. Every other "Youtuber" did it first.
Geekdom, you should know better than anyone that, "they did it first" doesn't reflect well on you.

I am glad you are willing to admit that you made a mistake and you get more points for that then others. At the same time, this was a mistake that could have been avoided if you came here and followed the thread for at least day. That way, you would have found out that the source that you used to verify the leaks was already known for two weeks. You should have also made it extremely clear that the leaks were still questionable and could have been false, even if you believe that wasn't the case. Most of all, you should have pulled the video the moment the real staff listing came out instead of just making an update video.

We all make mistakes and I am glad you own up to them. What makes this frustrating on my part is that this could have been avoided if people were willing to wait for more proof for jumping the gun. Also, even as I checked your page, you still haven't pulled the video. So you really haven't owned up to your mistake. At the very least, put a disclaimer that spoiler maybe false.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:08 am

The official announcement thread is hardly the place to discuss a fan..
At the end of the day he is also a fan who gives his thoughts just on a different platform, many do the same thing here and wait for further confirmation as well..

If discussing a member of the community is so important, take it to somewhat appropriate threads please..
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Post by DainIronfoot » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:32 am

I think we are delving too much into the youtube side of things. We here at Kanzenshuu should know better to wait for official scans before thinking things are confirmed, even though we all love specualtion lol. Anyways, remember some aspects of these "prediction style" leaks may end up coming to some type of fruition, we just don't know yet for sure.

Regardless, I think it's best for people to move on and if the leaks turn out fully false then it's just going to look bad for those that kept saying it to is 100 percent confirmed real. Like I said though, until we get the true summaries, we don't know what could possibly happen!

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Post by Bullza » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:51 am

Make it simple for me.

What were these leaks? Were they fake or not?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:53 am

Bullza wrote:Make it simple for me.

What were these leaks? Were they fake or not?
There were some initial fake leaks that had Freeza switching teams before the tournament, only to be replaced by Yamcha. They were close enough to sounding legitimate that, aside from a few odd staff listings, they seemed believable. We learned they were false when the real leaks surfaced.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:56 am

Bullza wrote:Make it simple for me.

What were these leaks? Were they fake or not?
They were episode and staff leaks with summaries..
They were fake, as the staff is different and so are the titles
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Post by Psykomatik » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:56 am

Bullza wrote:Make it simple for me.

What were these leaks? Were they fake or not?
LEAKS said:
Ep 95: Goku and Freeza Unite - Trap of Universe 4
Goku and Freeza don't intend to make it a long fight and are forced to fight together.

Ep 96: Emergency, Again! The Last Warrior is Him?
Freeza leaves and joins Universe 4 instead, so Universe 7 is one member short yet again.


REAL THING said:
Ep 95: The Wickedest! The Evilest! Freeza Runs Wild!!
Freeza transforms into his Golden form and mercilessly slaughters his enemies. Goku is too busy covering Freeza's surroudings to stop him.

Ep 96: The Time Has Come! To the World of Void, Where the Universes' Fates Will Be Decided!!
No summary yet.


We don't know if the leaks were accurate or not, but they seem pretty fake as of now.

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Post by Bullza » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:59 am

Oh those leaks. I'd be happy with them being fake, I said the other day it would be far more interesting to see Frieza actually work with the others rather than it being borng and predictable by having him betray them and be an enemy again.

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Post by DainIronfoot » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:03 am

Psykomatik wrote:
Bullza wrote:Make it simple for me.

What were these leaks? Were they fake or not?
LEAKS said:
Ep 95: Goku and Freeza Unite - Trap of Universe 4
Goku and Freeza don't intend to make it a long fight and are forced to fight together.

Ep 96: Emergency, Again! The Last Warrior is Him?
Freeza leaves and joins Universe 4 instead, so Universe 7 is one member short yet again.


REAL THING said:
Ep 95: The Wickedest! The Evilest! Freeza Runs Wild!!
Freeza transforms into his Golden form and mercilessly slaughters his enemies. Goku is too busy covering Freeza's surroudings to stop him.

Ep 96: The Time Has Come! To the World of Void, Where the Universes' Fates Will Be Decided!!
No summary yet.


We don't know if the leaks were accurate or not, but they seem pretty fake as of now.
Indeed, though I'm still waiting for official summaries to be absolutely 100 percent sure lol. I've seen you speak with Toshio too! :D


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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:52 am

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We all make mistakes and I am glad you own up to them. What makes this frustrating on my part is that this could have been avoided if people were willing to wait for more proof for jumping the gun. Also, even as I checked your page, you still haven't pulled the video. So you really haven't owned up to your mistake. At the very least, put a disclaimer that spoiler maybe false.
I haven't pulled the video because Animedia may confirm the 2chan leaks to be truthful. If I pull that video now and it turns out to be true, it would accomplish nothing. I also did a follow up video saying that it could be false.

I wish people wouldn't question EVERYTHING I do but I guess that's how it is.
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Post by vashter » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:58 am

Geekdom101 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
We all make mistakes and I am glad you own up to them. What makes this frustrating on my part is that this could have been avoided if people were willing to wait for more proof for jumping the gun. Also, even as I checked your page, you still haven't pulled the video. So you really haven't owned up to your mistake. At the very least, put a disclaimer that spoiler maybe false.
I haven't pulled the video because Animedia may confirm the 2chan leaks to be truthful. If I pull that video now and it turns out to be true, it would accomplish nothing. I also did a follow up video saying that it could be false.

I wish people wouldn't question EVERYTHING I do but I guess that's how it is.
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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:00 am

vashter wrote:
Geekdom101 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
We all make mistakes and I am glad you own up to them. What makes this frustrating on my part is that this could have been avoided if people were willing to wait for more proof for jumping the gun. Also, even as I checked your page, you still haven't pulled the video. So you really haven't owned up to your mistake. At the very least, put a disclaimer that spoiler maybe false.
I haven't pulled the video because Animedia may confirm the 2chan leaks to be truthful. If I pull that video now and it turns out to be true, it would accomplish nothing. I also did a follow up video saying that it could be false.

I wish people wouldn't question EVERYTHING I do but I guess that's how it is.
Think your 15 mins fam is up man, someone in here is roast living hell out of you somewhere.
15 minutes?

I've been around for 2 years.

Try again troll.

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Post by HeroR » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:08 am

Geekdom101 wrote:
I haven't pulled the video because Animedia may confirm the 2chan leaks to be truthful. If I pull that video now and it turns out to be true, it would accomplish nothing. I also did a follow up video saying that it could be false.

I wish people wouldn't question EVERYTHING I do but I guess that's how it is.
No offense, but you really think that the Animedia will confirmed completely different titles and staff?

And since you have a big platform that can spread misinformation in a fanbase that is already misinformation prone, of course I am going to ask questions when you still have a video up in which the information on it has largely been proven incorrect. Especially since your first video have more than double the views of your update video.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:23 am

C'mon guys lets stop with the Youtube misinformation talk, tho I'm not one to complain since I've been off topic for a lot of times but.... this has been going on for quite a while now, let him do what he wants, its not like we wont get further confirmation when the summary/episode is out. Getting misinformed isnt rare. (so this is how it feels like to be on the other side of the field :lol: ) it may be a very long shot but those leaked summaries can still happen despite how low the probability is, it still aint 0 until official ones comes out. They dont always spoil certain events in the title, one in particular that I remember is ep 61, title'd "Zamasu's Ambition - Presenting the Terrifying 0 Mortals Plan" when we got 2 big stuffs happened in the actual episode like Goku going on a rampage after finding out what Black did to his alternate family and Future Trunks got a new form.

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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:26 am

HeroR wrote:
Geekdom101 wrote:
I haven't pulled the video because Animedia may confirm the 2chan leaks to be truthful. If I pull that video now and it turns out to be true, it would accomplish nothing. I also did a follow up video saying that it could be false.

I wish people wouldn't question EVERYTHING I do but I guess that's how it is.
No offense, but you really think that the Animedia will confirmed completely different titles and staff?

And since you have a big platform that can spread misinformation in a fanbase that is already misinformation prone, of course I am going to ask questions when you still have a video up in which the information on it has largely been proven incorrect. Especially since your first video have more than double the views of your update video.
It could be... that the REASON the first video has more views, is because it went up a day before.

So if the vid did 10,000 views, nobody would bat an eye, but because it did more views, it makes it worse and I should be attacked for it? Views are irrelevant to the point. Don't turn this into another "greedy Youtuber" nonsensical argument. If the Animedia Titles don't match up, I will do an update video and correct myself as I ALWAYS have. I am in complete agreement with you about me jumping the gun (despite all of the double checking and conversations I had prior to and holding off), but that doesn't mean I have to delete the video because you told me to. The point of an update video is to UPDATE people, and one WILL be produced once everything comes out, I assure you.
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