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by LiamKav » Thu May 24, 2012 6:50 pm
Saimaroimaru wrote:After reading that Fan Trailer thread, a unpopular opinion of mine is that the Z is pronounced zee. And as someone pointed out in that thread its just how Americans say their Z's, its a part of the American dialect. Go after English doctorates and teachers. As such I pronounce, Dragon Ball Z as Dragon Ball Zee. Sorry, if I don't speak British English but I wasn't raised in England or by British English using parents, or by British English using teachers.
I think almost everyone pronounces it "Zee", both British and Americans, because that's how it is pronounced in the dub of every single episode. So, er, no, that's not unpopular in the slightest.
(Although if I'm correct, the Japanese actually pronounce it something like "zetto", right? I can't work out if that's closer to "Z" or "Zed".)
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by Bussani » Thu May 24, 2012 7:37 pm
Saimaroimaru wrote:After reading that Fan Trailer thread, a unpopular opinion of mine is that the Z is pronounced zee. And as someone pointed out in that thread its just how Americans say their Z's, its a part of the American dialect. Go after English doctorates and teachers. As such I pronounce, Dragon Ball Z as Dragon Ball Zee. Sorry, if I don't speak British English but I wasn't raised in England or by British English using parents, or by British English using teachers.
I think you misread that thread. Like LiamKav said above me, pretty much everyone, British or American, pronounces it "Dragon Ball Zee" because that's what the English version of the show uses. No one's expecting you or anything else to use Zed--especially if you're not even British!
LiamKav wrote:(Although if I'm correct, the Japanese actually pronounce it something like "zetto", right? I can't work out if that's closer to "Z" or "Zed".)
I wouldn't say either one is "closer", really. All three pronunciations are appropriate for where they're used.
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by Ringworm128 » Thu May 24, 2012 9:11 pm
Gonstead wrote:Hades wrote:I personally think that Nadolny, had she returned for Kai, would have improved even more, like most of the cast did (there was a huge leap between the apocalyptic season 3 and the "meh" Buu Saga, and from that to the brilliant Kai).
If Nadolny did return to Kai and had a better performance than before, I would possibly love Kai even more than I currently do.
Not to say that Colleen is bad, hell no, she is fantastic as Gohan but having 10+ years of voices you associate with certain characters, you tend to develop an attachment to said voices.
If she did return to voice Gohan I'm guessing she would have been less raspy and maybe a tiny bit more high pitched. That said I'm more disappointed that she didn't return to voice Kid Goku in the redub of DB Movie 1. After hearing her great performance in Revenge of King Piccolo I reckon she could have been even better in the movie redub.
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by Gonstead » Fri May 25, 2012 6:17 am
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by superrayman3 » Fri May 25, 2012 7:34 am
Hades wrote:If she did return to voice Gohan I'm guessing she would have been less raspy and maybe a tiny bit more high pitched.
Maybe but we'll never know for sure Nandoly would've been a great fit for Gohan if she would've used her kid Goku voice instead of the voice she did use.
Hades wrote:That said I'm more disappointed that she didn't return to voice Kid Goku in the redub of DB Movie 1. After hearing her great performance in Revenge of King Piccolo I reckon she could have been even better in the movie redub.
I agree Nandoly would've probably fit kid Goku a lot better than Colleen did in the Movie 1 redub, especially since she's had more experience in voice acting since doing DB back in the early 2000's (Colleen did a great job as Goku in the Movie 1 redub but her voice sounded OOC during certain moments).
With that said here's another possibly unpopular opinion, The voice actors for Master Shen and Tao Pai Pai in Harmony Gold's dub of Movie 3 are 10x better than the people who voiced Shen and Tao in the FUNimation dub of Movie 3 (who voiced Shen and Tao in FUNi's Movie 3 dub anyway?).
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by Metalwario64 » Fri May 25, 2012 7:41 am
superrayman3 wrote:With that said here's another possibly unpopular opinion, The voice actors for Master Shen and Tao Pai Pai in Harmony Gold's dub of Movie 3 are 10x better than the people who voiced Shen and Tao in the FUNimation dub of Movie 3 (who voiced Shen and Tao in FUNi's Movie 3 dub anyway?).
I haven't seen Dragon Ball movie 3, but Shen's in it? What role would he serve if the movie (from what I understand from my limited knowledge) has nothing to do with Piccolo?
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by Saiga » Fri May 25, 2012 7:57 am
Metalwario64 wrote:superrayman3 wrote:With that said here's another possibly unpopular opinion, The voice actors for Master Shen and Tao Pai Pai in Harmony Gold's dub of Movie 3 are 10x better than the people who voiced Shen and Tao in the FUNimation dub of Movie 3 (who voiced Shen and Tao in FUNi's Movie 3 dub anyway?).
I haven't seen Dragon Ball movie 3, but Shen's in it? What role would he serve if the movie (from what I understand from my limited knowledge) has nothing to do with Piccolo?
You're thinking of the wrong Shen. He's talking about Tenshinhan's master, the crane hermit.
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by TripleRach » Fri May 25, 2012 8:58 am
Saiga wrote:You're thinking of the wrong Shen. He's talking about Tenshinhan's master, the crane hermit.
Yeah. The dub named the crane hermit "Master Shen" for whatever reason. And then come the 23rd Budoukai, God's alter ego/hapless human dude was named "Hero" in the dub to get around that problem.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Fri May 25, 2012 1:32 pm
Goddamn retarded dub terminology!
superrayman3 wrote:(who voiced Shen and Tao in FUNi's Movie 3 dub anyway?)
I believe it was Chuck Huber and Kent Williams respectively.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Fri May 25, 2012 1:54 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:superrayman3 wrote:(who voiced Shen and Tao in FUNi's Movie 3 dub anyway?)
I believe it was Chuck Huber and Kent Williams respectively.
It was, yeah. Pilaf, Shu, and Mai however, had different actors from their show ones. I can't remember off of the top of my head who played Pilaf (definitely wasn't Huber though) or Shu, but Mai in that movie was Cynthia Cranz.
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by superrayman3 » Fri May 25, 2012 2:17 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:superrayman3 wrote:(who voiced Shen and Tao in FUNi's Movie 3 dub anyway?)
I believe it was Chuck Huber and Kent Williams respectively.
It was, yeah. Pilaf, Shu, and Mai however, had different actors from their show ones. I can't remember off of the top of my head who played Pilaf (definitely wasn't Huber though) or Shu, but Mai in that movie was Cynthia Cranz.
Oh ok now I know who voiced the Crane hermet and mercenary Tao in FUNi's dub thanks for the help guys

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by jpdbzrulz4sure » Fri May 25, 2012 3:57 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:I can't remember off of the top of my head who played Pilaf (definitely wasn't Huber though)...
I believe it was Mike McFarland.
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by Gonstead » Fri May 25, 2012 6:47 pm
jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:Gyt Kaliba wrote:I can't remember off of the top of my head who played Pilaf (definitely wasn't Huber though)...
I believe it was Mike McFarland.
It is actually Huber.
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by LiamKav » Fri May 25, 2012 8:18 pm
superrayman3 wrote:I agree Nandoly would've probably fit kid Goku a lot better than Colleen did in the Movie 1 redub, especially since she's had more experience in voice acting since doing DB back in the early 2000's (Colleen did a great job as Goku in the Movie 1 redub but her voice sounded OOC during certain moments).
Nandoly is a lot better with Goku than Gohan, although I can't tell if that's due to general voice acting improvementsa, or because her Goku voice isn't quite as raspy as her Gohan one. I also wonder if the DragonBall dub was directed differently to the DBZ one. Since they knew they were keeping the original background music, maybe the got everyone to act a bit "calmer". Certainly Roshi's voice is 100% better in DB than in DBZ, although again I can't tell if that's due to voice acting improvement or not. The muting of the western accent probably helps.
I'm still planning on watching Kai properly to try and give Clickenbeard a proper review. New voice actors are hard. The first time I heard season 3 Kuririn, I was appalled. Now, I think that Sonny Strait is one of FUNi's best actors and a million times better than Terry Klassen ever was. Giving a fair judgement can take time.
(I do wonder why FUNi didn't keep Nandoly for their redub of DB movie 1. Unless they were planning on going back and redubbing ALL of DB, I would have thought being consistent would have been important. It doesn't apply for DBZ, because Gohan isn't in DB, and he's voice by someone else again for the stuff set after Kai.)
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by Gonstead » Fri May 25, 2012 8:53 pm
LiamKav wrote:
(I do wonder why FUNi didn't keep Nandoly for their redub of DB movie 1. Unless they were planning on going back and redubbing ALL of DB, I would have thought being consistent would have been important. It doesn't apply for DBZ, because Gohan isn't in DB, and he's voice by someone else again for the stuff set after Kai.)
I think it was due to the fact that Nadolny has a singing career and she probably couldn't make it to come back for Kid Goku or Gohan.
A shame really, since I'm sure her time as a singer would have helped improve her voice for voice acting if she does decide to ever act again. She also seemed to really be into her roles and enjoy them.
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by Pokewhiz7 » Fri May 25, 2012 8:57 pm
It still wouldn't have been consistent. Movies two and three have different casts than the TV series also. Doesn't excuse inconsistency, but, there you go.
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by jpdbzrulz4sure » Fri May 25, 2012 9:33 pm
Gonstead wrote:It is actually Huber.
I was talking about in DB movie 3, which Gyt Kaliba was talking about.
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by DoomieDoomie911 » Sat May 26, 2012 7:16 pm
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I don't know if I'd call this unpopular, but I absolutely hated the Penguin Village scenes in Dragon Ball. I hate it so much that I extend the hatred to Dr. Slump in general. When I first saw that crap in DB, I felt uneasy the entire time seeing these retarded characters somehow exist when they shouldn't have. I think it was Toriyama getting carried away with how awesome his previous work was, when in reality it sucks. Keep that garbage to its own devices, and leave it out of Dragon Ball, I say. The General Blue saga was awesome without it, and then they ham the whole thing by going to this dumb town to do stupid things with the worst characters in DB. I ALWAYS skip these episodes when I watch DB.
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by Ringworm128 » Mon May 28, 2012 7:32 pm
I actually like the added dialog for the Gohan SSJ2 scene and I think it works really well in it's own way. And it also works pretty well when you place Unmei no Hi with it. I also like Kyle Herbert as the narrator.
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by Saimaroimaru » Mon May 28, 2012 10:07 pm
During the Gohan vs Dabura fight, Gohan started out as a SSJ1 but later upgraded to SSJ2 during the fight.