Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
Bullza wrote:There's a website called Adorocinema.com which is a Brazilian site and DBZ was the #1 most anticipated movie on a list that includes Minions and Batman vs Superman. There's a huge banner at the top of the homepage for DBZ actually.
Wow. That's crazy.
Now I'm expecting really big numbers from South America, especially Brazil now.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I'm not sure if it had been mentioned but it does release in Paraguay on the 26th.
Two things to point out.
1. The Dollar is stronger now than it was when BoG came out. The movie is going to have to make a decent amount more in local currency just to match what BoG did in US dollars.
For example when BoG released in Brazil $1 = 2.17 Real. Now though $1 = 3.06 Real.
2. BoG came out in these countries in September/October when there's nothing out. This one is coming out in June when there's a lot of big films out.
That might not matter as these films are fan driven anyway but it's best to keep expectations on the low side.
I got a bit of news for you here and it's good news.
According to Ultracine, in Peru Dragon Ball Z was rank #1 on opening day selling 48,288 tickets which is slightly more than triple what Jurassic World and Pixar's Inside Out (which opened the same day) did.
It actually sold more tickets opening day than what Jurassic World did opening day.
In Chile it sold 6,427 tickets which again made it #1 on opening day and sold over twice as many tickets as Jurassic World and Inside Out (which again opened on the same day).
This information is based on a portion of theatres that Ultracine track. It would have sold more than what I listed when all theatres were taken into account, especially for Chile as that's only based on 11 theatres when it might be shown in 70+ theatres.
Bullza wrote:I got a bit of news for you here and it's good news.
According to Ultracine, in Peru Dragon Ball Z was rank #1 on opening day selling 48,288 tickets which is slightly more than triple what Jurassic World and Pixar's Inside Out (which opened the same day) did.
It actually sold more tickets opening day than what Jurassic World did opening day.
In Chile it sold 6,427 tickets which again made it #1 on opening day and sold over twice as many tickets as Jurassic World and Inside Out (which again opened on the same day).
This information is based on a portion of theatres that Ultracine track. It would have sold more than what I listed when all theatres were taken into account, especially for Chile as that's only based on 11 theatres when it might be shown in 70+ theatres.
Wow. That is great news. And give how much Jurrasic World is dominating the international box office and the rave reviews Inside Out is getting, this is quite an accomplishment.
Only Dragon Ball Z can pull this off.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
It looks as though it gets updated throughout the day because it now has Peru's ticket sales at 58,987 across 122 screens and Chile's ticket sales at 13,571 across 32 screens.
Bullza wrote:It looks as though it gets updated throughout the day because it now has Peru's ticket sales at 58,987 across 122 screens and Chile's ticket sales at 13,571 across 32 screens.
The early indications really seem positive so far. How much do you think it would cost per ticket for admission in Peru and Chile?
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I can't really give a good answer for that. I tried having a look on some Theatre chain websites for Peru earlier and the prices are all over the place from one another, the prices change depending on the day and even between the same chains the prices vary drastically. At a guess based on what I saw, maybe $5.
I didn't look into the Chile one so much but it could be a little more.
All I was told by someone was that for Peru $1 million+ OW should happen, Jurassic World had a $1.8 million OW and DBZ could reach $2 million.
Bullza wrote:I can't really give a good answer for that. I tried having a look on some Theatre chain websites for Peru earlier and the prices are all over the place from one another, the prices change depending on the day and even between the same chains the prices vary drastically. At a guess based on what I saw, maybe $5.
I didn't look into the Chile one so much but it could be a little more.
All I was told by someone was that for Peru $1 million+ OW should happen, Jurassic World had a $1.8 million OW and DBZ could reach $2 million.
Damn. $2 million in the opening weekend would be really damn good. That would more than what Peru produced in the box office during its entire run for BOG. But I'm guessing Peru must have had many more screenings for ROF than they did for BOG.
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Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
It would be fantastic for it but I never expect the best case scenario. I'd be happy with $1.5 million, that'd still be a big increase over the last one.
BoG was shown on 210 screens. RoF is on 122 screens, depends how large the portion is that Ultracine isn't tracking if it's actually more or not.
In Brazil DBZ was #3 across the Cinemark theatre chain which is the largest in Brazil. That's pretty good again.
Bullza wrote:It would be fantastic for it but I never expect the best case scenario. I'd be happy with $1.5 million, that'd still be a big increase over the last one.
BoG was shown on 210 screens. RoF is on 122 screens, depends how large the portion is that Ultracine isn't tracking if it's actually more or not.
In Brazil DBZ was #3 across the Cinemark theatre chain which is the largest in Brazil. That's pretty good again.
No that's just how many screens they're tracking the ticket sales over. The actual full screen count would be higher and possibly higher than the last one.
They've updated it again and now it's up to 139 screens and 90,801 tickets sold between Thursday and Friday.
Edit: It was #3 in Brazil yesterday across all theatre chains too.
Well the overseas gross for all movies will be announced later on today. It's 1.30pm for me here and they usually seem to come out around 8pm or so, sometimes earlier like last week.
All being well DBZ will get some kind of mention and they might say how it did in certain countries. ScreenDaily already mentioned in a new article that it comes out in Latin America this week.
It made $7 million for the weekend. They also give a Worldwide total of $37.9 million.
That doesn't fit with the number I had and I'm not sure why. It could possibly be because of how they've converted the gross for Japan or maybe the Taiwan gross wasn't in US dollars or maybe they're just off because they aren't tracking it in certain countries.
"Fox International Productions’ Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F, already a massive local hit in Japan at $30.9M, blasted off in Latin America to a fantastic $7M. It opened No. 1 in Peru and Chile and grossed $3.5M in Mexico on 713 screens."
Battle of Gods had an opening of $2.77 million in Mexico.
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Bullza wrote:"Fox International Productions’ Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F, already a massive local hit in Japan at $30.9M, blasted off in Latin America to a fantastic $7M. It opened No. 1 in Peru and Chile and grossed $3.5M in Mexico on 713 screens."
Battle of Gods had an opening of $2.77 million in Mexico.
If they have it at making $30.9 million in Japan and then it made $7 million this weekend then that might be why it came to $37.9 million in which case that means the figure isn't including Malaysia, Hong Kong and Taiwan.
So the movie could be be at $40.2 million. I'll look into it more.
I know the Latin American fanbase would do really well. I think now that ROF could possibly reach $50 million before it screens in the US.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Edit: It would seem the movie is indeed at $37.9 million. That $1.85 million it said it had made in Taiwan is actually more like $185,000.
I assume Deadline got that Japanese figure just by taking the $7 million off the $37.9 million without realising it had also been released in a few other smaller market.
Depending on the exchange rate about $30-30.5 million in Japan, about $0.2-0.25 million in Hong Kong and Malaysia each and about $0.18 million in Taiwan and then $7 million this weekend and yeah you get $37.9 million.
"The film scored Fox’s sixth biggest number one debut in Peru on $1m from 171. The studio earned its sixth biggest opening weekend in Ecuador, where the film placed second on $518,000."
Thought it would have done more in Peru and it looks to have less screens than BoG however it opened to about the same. It also looks to have opened higher in Ecuador though not by a significant amount.
That leaves about $1.98 million between Brazil, Chile and Central America.
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