Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by InfernalVegito » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:12 pm

He will go from a bad guy to a good guy. This will be his transformation.
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Post by Avenged » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:12 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Abo & Cado didn't transform. Chilled didn't transform. Virus didn't transform. That's 4 years of 3 villians never transforming. How's that old?
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Post by Saiga » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:15 pm

Fusion is a form of transformation.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:18 pm

Saiga wrote:Fusion is a form of transformation.
No, it isn't. A fusion is a creation of a new character of previously two fusees. Transformation is a change of one's appearance and powers to higher level.
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Post by Avenged » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:19 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
Saiga wrote:Fusion is a form of transformation.
No, it isn't. A fusion is a creation of a new character of previously two fusees. Transformation is a change of one's appearance and powers to higher level.
Pretty sure their power level raises and their appearance changed once they fused. *facepalm*
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:29 pm

Liquid transforms into solid. Hydrogen and oxygen fuse to become water. Both are not the same thing.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Insertclevername » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:15 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Abo & Cado didn't transform. Chilled didn't transform. Virus didn't transform. That's 4 years of 3 villians never transforming. How's that old?
I'm referring to the main villains like Freeza, Cell and Boo.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:12 am

I somehow feel it's still more likely for Goku to get a new powerup/transformation late in the film than for Birusu to have another form. Since they're dealing with enemies who have special, magical powers and not just pure physical strength, I'm also curious as to who will last the longest back on Earth until Goku's inevitable re-arrival (and what condition the others will be in). I want to see how crazy things will get.
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Post by Fox666 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:44 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:No, it isn't. A fusion is a creation of a new character of previously two fusees. Transformation is a change of one's appearance and powers to higher level.
Going by the dictionary, a fusion is closer to the definition of a "transformation" than the Super Saiyan.

trans·for·ma·tion
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1. the act or process of transforming.
2. the state of being transformed.
3. change in form, appearance, nature, or character.
4. Theater . a seemingly miraculous change in the appearance of scenery or actors in view of the audience.
5. Logic. . Also called transform. one of a set of algebraic formulas used to express the relations between elements, sets, etc., that form parts of a given system.

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Post by DNA » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:37 am

@DragonBallKaiHD The whole franchise is built on characters transforming in one way or another from the very beggining. Oolong transformed, so did Mutenroshi by buffing up, Tenshinhan by gaining more arms, Daimao by going from old to young and Junior by going giant. Nearly every Z movie features some kind of transformation. Chilled didn't transform, but Bardock did. And you've just been told how a fusion is a transformation. So honestly, you're just being pedantic because you can't admit you're wrong. Like I said, the whole franchise features transformation and nearly every main villain transformed; so yeah, transformations ARE getting old.

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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:06 am

Herms wrote:OK, here's a full translation of the updated Story Page. It's basically the same as the old plot summary, but with a few things added, though it's not really anything we hadn't already gotten from other sources.
Several years after the titanic battle with Majin Boo that determined the fate of the entire universe, the Earth was at peace, but now faces a new danger…

“If there’s a god who creates planets and life in this world, then there is also a god who destroys…” The god of destruction Bilus, who maintains the balance of the entire universe, has awakened from a long slumber! Bilus is said to push the limits of destruction once displeased, and his awakening throws not merely Kaio but even Kaioshin into a panic. Hearing rumors of a Saiyan who defeated Freeza, Bilus and Whis track down Goku on Kaio’s planet. Thrilled to see a strong opponent after so long, Goku ignores Kaio’s warning and challenges Bilus to battle, but is helpless before his overwhelming power and defeated! “I hope there’s someone on Earth more worthwhile to destroy” With those unnerving words, Bilus departs. The threat of Bilus creeps up on Vegeta, Gohan, and the other warriors on Earth…Will Goku and co. be able to stop Bilus’ destruction!? The Earth’s mightiest warriors rise up again to face this overwhelming destroyer!!
I'm starting to really like the premise of this film, with Goku being sorta sidelined and the other Z Fighters having to buy time before his return... Sounds like a typical DBZ plot, as in the Saiyan, Namek and Androids Sagas.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:59 pm

I won't mind if Bils has a transformation, so long as it doesn't seem like a cop-out and it looks cool.

I'm totally down with him going 'Super' ala Super Neko Majin.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:31 pm

DNA wrote:@DragonBallKaiHD The whole franchise is built on characters transforming in one way or another from the very beggining. Oolong transformed, so did Mutenroshi by buffing up, Tenshinhan by gaining more arms, Daimao by going from old to young and Junior by going giant. Nearly every Z movie features some kind of transformation. Chilled didn't transform, but Bardock did. And you've just been told how a fusion is a transformation. So honestly, you're just being pedantic because you can't admit you're wrong. Like I said, the whole franchise features transformation and nearly every main villain transformed; so yeah, transformations ARE getting old.
Insertclevername was talking about villians transforming to add more powers to their advantage, just like Freeza, but I will say that some of the characters you pointed who transformed did not transform. Oolong is the exception because he's a shapeshifter. Of course he can transform, but he's a gag character. He's not important.

Muten Roshi's Buffed-Up is not transformation. Just like Grade 2 and 3 are not transformation. Piccolo Daimao didn't transform. Piccolo Daimao is still in his base form, same as Piccolo Jr. Tenshinhan just grew his arms. The list you mentioned are pointless because they are irrevelant to what I was talking about.

Chilled is a villian, yet he didn't transform. Bardock is not a villian, so he's out of our conversation.

So that brings back to my point: The new villians did not transform, even with fusion, because they are two different thing. By your logic, Piccolo would be transformed from the fusion with Nail and Kami-sama.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by hleV » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:35 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Just like Grade 2 and 3 are not transformation.
They're referred to as transformations.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:53 pm

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That's a much more practical pen then those DB ones at least. :lol:

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Post by JeffJarrett » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:04 pm

The guy who will defeat Birusu:

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soulnova wrote:Actually, this movie shouldn't be the last time they meet up, 5 years before the End of Z, otherwise Bulma should be round and pregnant ready to give birth to Bra, or already with infant Bra in arms. I do believe this could be just before that: 4 years after Buu, 6 years before the End of Z. This is why I'm crossing fingers that Bulma is going to give Vegeta the news that they'll have a new bundle of joy during the party + Videl/Gohan announce they are getting married.
Not if it's one or two years after the end of Boo. Everyone is speculating the movie is set three of five years after, but it was never said how many years after the end of the Boo Saga it was set. I still think it's only a few months after (or before) the JSAT special.

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm really sad that this movie went with the Bulma's wedding thing instead of the Gohan/Videl wedding option, because FIVE years would be exactly around the time of Pan's conception based on my guesses.
It's not Bulma's wedding, it's her birthday.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:09 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm really sad that this movie went with the Bulma's wedding thing instead of the Gohan/Videl wedding option, because FIVE years would be exactly around the time of Pan's conception based on my guesses.
It's not Bulma's wedding, it's her birthday.
Ack, I knew that. I must have typed faster than I was thinking, since I was also mentioning the Gohan/Videl wedding. My bad.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:10 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I won't mind if Bils has a transformation, so long as it doesn't seem like a cop-out and it looks cool.

I'm totally down with him going 'Super' ala Super Neko Majin.
I don't think he'd go Super like Z did, not really any characteristics that could change with a Super Neko Majin style transformation. I think he's most likely to grow hair, because long hair and no eyebrows (which he doesn't have anyway being a cat) always makes you super powerful, regardless of the species. =P

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:39 pm

hleV wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Just like Grade 2 and 3 are not transformation.
They're referred to as transformations.
No, they are variant to the Super Saiyan.
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