"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Tennessaiyan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:22 am

Just repeating myself here, but if this precedes F... Ugh. Hype level: zilch.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:28 am

My bet is that the first episodes will be before FnF, but we will get past that later. Maybe will even get past the 28th TB later as well.
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Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:37 am

Ushabtis wrote:
shinmaru wrote:probably old news, fat Beerus and Whis look alike
if they're really the villains I'll be underwhelmed.
You're underwhelmed, others are overwhelmed, why can't anyone be just "whelmed"?

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Post by fexus » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:50 am

Any news about the longer preview?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ushabtis » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:58 am

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:You're underwhelmed, others are overwhelmed, why can't anyone be just "whelmed"?
why? 18 years of "waiting" for a DBZ sequel. to expect everyone to be right as rain would be silly. I just think a Fat version of Beerus being the villain would be stupid is all.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:03 am

If it's pre "F" shouldn't Beerus be asleep?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:08 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:If it's pre "F" shouldn't Beerus be asleep?
I honestly think the the first act of Super may be like the Flashpoint Paradox in where the main timeline of Dragon Ball is altered so significantly by one event or action by the villain, that history itself changes. Resulting in Fat Beerus, Female Whis etc. I know something that has already pretty much happened in Dragon Ball, but judging from the splash image, it could be going do that route again.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:11 am

Ushabtis wrote:
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:You're underwhelmed, others are overwhelmed, why can't anyone be just "whelmed"?
why? 18 years of "waiting" for a DBZ sequel. to expect everyone to be right as rain would be silly. I just think a Fat version of Beerus being the villain would be stupid is all.
Lol chillll, I was quoting something. Robin from Young Justice says that.

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Post by Ushabtis » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:12 am

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Lol chillll
I'm totally chill silly. I apologize if you took my comment that way.
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Post by saunasolmu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:13 am

I'm still not convinced that this will take place pre-F. Goku and Vegeta don't have their F clothes, but weren't they given to them by Whis and they only ever used them while training with him? Is there any reason to assume that they'd have permanently changed their clothing?

As for Krillin and his hair, he shaved it because he was going to fight. After Freeza was defeated it'd grow back in a few months. And he has hair at EoZ, so it's not like his F look is permanent.

On the contrary, Beerus is awake and he isn't awake during the time period between BoG and F.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:23 am

Say what you want about Toriyama but there's no doubt that he still knows how to surprise people with his work.

With this being set before F then it'll probably be the last chance we'll get to see Vegeta use his normal forms so hopefully he goes Ssj3 in this.

If this is when Vegeta will debut his Ssjg form then hopefully he'll get the final battle with fat Beerus.
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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:26 am

saunasolmu wrote:I'm still not convinced that this will take place pre-F. Goku and Vegeta don't have their F clothes, but weren't they given to them by Whis and they only ever used them while training with him? Is there any reason to assume that they'd have permanently changed their clothing?
The clothes were not made by Whis. Toriyama notes in vol. F, that Vegeta's new battle armor was crafted by Bulma.

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Post by chizzielamer » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:28 am

dbgtFO wrote:
saunasolmu wrote:I'm still not convinced that this will take place pre-F. Goku and Vegeta don't have their F clothes, but weren't they given to them by Whis and they only ever used them while training with him? Is there any reason to assume that they'd have permanently changed their clothing?
The clothes were not made by Whis. Toriyama notes in vol. F, that Vegeta's new battle armor was crafted by Bulma.
What WAS made by Whis was the signature on his armor (and Goku's Gi). But thats in RoF.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:31 am

I'm glad it's before RoF. I loved the movie, but it felt like there was a movie in between BoG and RoF that we missed. In BoG, Vegeta made Goku promise him that he could become SSG during the next battle, and then in RoF, Vegeta has already mastered SSG, and they're suddenly training with Whis for some unknown reason, and Goten and Trunks are missing, and for some reason they can't sense the massive amounts of ki being used during RoF... are they on another planet, or training in the RoSaT? This should be interesting.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by saunasolmu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:33 am

dbgtFO wrote:
saunasolmu wrote:I'm still not convinced that this will take place pre-F. Goku and Vegeta don't have their F clothes, but weren't they given to them by Whis and they only ever used them while training with him? Is there any reason to assume that they'd have permanently changed their clothing?
The clothes were not made by Whis. Toriyama notes in vol. F, that Vegeta's new battle armor was crafted by Bulma.
Ah, okay. I remembered that Toriyama stated something about their clothes, but couldn't remember what exactly. Pre-RF? As long as the whole series isn't in that time frame, it's okay for me.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:34 am

saunasolmu wrote:As long as the whole series isn't in that time frame, it's okay for me.
They said a villain stronger then Freeza will be in it so it'll move past his movie eventually.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:35 am

saunasolmu wrote:I'm still not convinced that this will take place pre-F. Goku and Vegeta don't have their F clothes, but weren't they given to them by Whis and they only ever used them while training with him? Is there any reason to assume that they'd have permanently changed their clothing?

As for Krillin and his hair, he shaved it because he was going to fight. After Freeza was defeated it'd grow back in a few months. And he has hair at EoZ, so it's not like his F look is permanent.

On the contrary, Beerus is awake and he isn't awake during the time period between BoG and F.
While I don't know about clothes made from Whis I agree with everything else. Also the Press Release said it was after "F" they even tweeted it takes place after the revival and defeat of Freeza. Also, in BoG it was Bulma's birthday and so everyone was wearing causal cloths and so they're probably doing the same here, it is peace time afteralll (lol).

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:36 am

saunasolmu wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
saunasolmu wrote:I'm still not convinced that this will take place pre-F. Goku and Vegeta don't have their F clothes, but weren't they given to them by Whis and they only ever used them while training with him? Is there any reason to assume that they'd have permanently changed their clothing?
The clothes were not made by Whis. Toriyama notes in vol. F, that Vegeta's new battle armor was crafted by Bulma.
Ah, okay. I remembered that Toriyama stated something about their clothes, but couldn't remember what exactly. Pre-RF? As long as the whole series isn't in that time frame, it's okay for me.
I'm sure it will eventually move beyond RoF, probably after RoF makes it's TV debut. How long did it take for BoG to air, a year?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:39 am

It looks like any hops of Gohan being important have gone out the window and Piccolo might have a bigger role in this somehow.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:41 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Also the Press Release said it was after "F" they even tweeted it takes place after the revival and defeat of Freeza.
It actually said that the new series will premier following the release of RoF in theaters, they weren't talking about when the story takes place. The only time frame we were given for the story is that it follows the aftermath of the battle with Buu, and I still think it's possible the series starts out immediately after Buu's defeat, catches up with BoG, bridges the gap between the two movies, and then continues on. There was a lot we missed, after all.

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