Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:44 am
UpFromTheSkies wrote:Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Also the Press Release said it was after "F" they even tweeted it takes place after the revival and defeat of Freeza.
It actually said that the new series will premier following the release of RoF in theaters, they weren't talking about when the story takes place. The only time frame we were given for the story is that it follows the aftermath of the battle with Buu, and I still think it's possible the series starts out immediately after Buu's defeat, catches up with BoG, bridges the gap between the two movies, and then continues on. There was a lot we missed, after all.
Then how would you explain this tweet then?
"The new TV series “Dragon Ball Super” by Akira Toriyama begins in July! After meeting with the God of Destruction; Beerus, who had awakened from his sleep, and after the revival of the dreaded “Emperor of the Universe”; Freeza, a new mysterious person appears …?"
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by Avery » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:48 am
I don't mind Goku's gi that much, but I'm sick of Vegeta's Saiyan armor. TBH I HATED his RoF outfit so if they had to pick one I'm ok with the old outfit...why can't he just wear his Buu arc getup? Oh, budokai rules 'n all...well, they'll definitely wear casual clothes at some point.
I kinda understand why the Z fighters still wear the same thing...but what about the females?! Why the same old thing? It doesn't make sense that they can't afford new clothes especially that two of them are insanely rich.
Speaking of females... Finally a strong one. 18 held the title of "strongest girl" for too long

but fat Beerus...urgh. Do all hakaishins have to be purple cats?

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by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:51 am
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:UpFromTheSkies wrote:Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Also the Press Release said it was after "F" they even tweeted it takes place after the revival and defeat of Freeza.
It actually said that the new series will premier following the release of RoF in theaters, they weren't talking about when the story takes place. The only time frame we were given for the story is that it follows the aftermath of the battle with Buu, and I still think it's possible the series starts out immediately after Buu's defeat, catches up with BoG, bridges the gap between the two movies, and then continues on. There was a lot we missed, after all.
Then how would you explain this tweet then?
"The new TV series “Dragon Ball Super” by Akira Toriyama begins in July! After meeting with the God of Destruction; Beerus, who had awakened from his sleep, and after the revival of the dreaded “Emperor of the Universe”; Freeza, a new mysterious person appears …?"
It doesn't say exactly when that will happen, though. There is clearly some pre F material being shown here, no RoF outfits, Krillin has hair, and gold SSJ Goku.
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:53 am
Why would they talk about a plot point that isn't imminent? Doesn't make sense.
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by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:59 am
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Why would they talk about a plot point that isn't imminent? Doesn't make sense.
It may not take long to catch up to RoF, but I think there are some things that need to be explained first that happened before RoF. The other God who is stronger than Freeza could appear before RoF, and his encounter with Vegeta and Goku could be similar to Goku's very first "battle" with Beerus, and that could be the reason they're training with Whis.
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by sintzu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:02 am
UpFromTheSkies wrote:His encounter with Vegeta and Goku could be similar to Goku's very first "battle" with Beerus, and that could be the reason they're training with Whis.
He doesn't look like someone who'd spare earth so they might win but after a lot of trouble.
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by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:10 am
sintzu wrote:UpFromTheSkies wrote:His encounter with Vegeta and Goku could be similar to Goku's very first "battle" with Beerus, and that could be the reason they're training with Whis.
He doesn't look like someone who'd spare earth so they might win but after a lot of trouble.
Maybe he's not, and maybe his attendant stops him because it's not his universe. I can imagine him showing up wanting to see the person who has turned his brother Beerus into a soft, planet sparing God, and when Goku mistakes him for Beerus, thinking he has gotten fat from eating too much pudding, he becomes enraged and nearly destroys Earth until his attendant knocks him out.
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by Dbzk1999 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:17 am
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Ushabtis wrote:shinmaru wrote:probably old news, fat Beerus and Whis look alike
if they're really the villains I'll be underwhelmed.
You're underwhelmed, others are overwhelmed, why can't anyone be just "whelmed"?
Nice YJ reference
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by Avery » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:20 am
Wait...if fat Beerus and Whissy are the only villains (I guess for the first arc), then how will Gohan, Piccolo and everyone else aside from Goku and Vegeta manage to be relevant? No henchmen this time, right?
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by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:22 am
Avery wrote:Wait...if fat Beerus and Whissy are the only villains (I guess for the first arc)
Who said that?
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by SSJGFrieza » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:36 am
UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'm glad it's before RoF. I loved the movie, but it felt like there was a movie in between BoG and RoF that we missed. In BoG, Vegeta made Goku promise him that he could become SSG during the next battle, and then in RoF, Vegeta has already mastered SSG, and they're suddenly training with Whis for some unknown reason, and Goten and Trunks are missing, and for some reason they can't sense the massive amounts of ki being used during RoF... are they on another planet, or training in the RoSaT? This should be interesting.
But there's only a year or less between BoG and F. There's no reason for Super to be set between them.
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by sintzu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:37 am
Avery wrote:How will Gohan, Piccolo and everyone else aside from Goku and Vegeta manage to be relevant?
I don't know about Piccolo but from the poster it looks like Gohan will be as relevant as Mr.Satan.
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But there's only a year or less between BoG and F. There's no reason for Super to be set between them.
It'll probably be the 1st arc only which will bridge the gap between the 2 movies.
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by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:40 am
sintzu wrote:Avery wrote:How will Gohan, Piccolo and everyone else aside from Goku and Vegeta manage to be relevant?
I don't know about Piccolo but from the poster it looks like Gohan will be as relevant as Mr.Satan.
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But there's only a year or less between BoG and F. There's no reason for Super to be set between them.
It'll probably be the 1st arc only which will bridge the gap between the 2 movies.
I think Gohan will have more screen time but the poster was implying he's distant himself from fighting
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by sintzu » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:51 am
TheGmGoken wrote:I think Gohan will have more screen time but the poster was implying he's distant himself from fighting
Hopefully that'll change when they move past FNF.
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by Valerius Dover » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:53 am
I still really doubt this is between Battle of Gods and Resurrection F. That would make no sense chronoloigically, or marketing-wise.
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by EXBadguy » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:54 am
Beeroly? Broleerus? Beerus' brother? I don't he'd be THAT buff.
Anyway, judging by the poster. it seems like it might take place after BoG, which is what I predicted. Hopefully it'll be about the 12 universes.
Valerius Dover wrote:I still really doubt this is between Battle of Gods and Resurrection F. That would make no sense chronoloigically, or marketing-wise.
I for one hope this would retcon Resurrction F(aka Frieza saga: Recolored Edition). From what I heard, that movie didn't bring the plot forward and expand anything like BoG did.
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by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:55 am
sintzu wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:I think Gohan will have more screen time but the poster was implying he's distant himself from fighting
Hopefully that'll change when they move past FNF.
Change what? Gohan screentime or distant from fighting?
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by Avery » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:59 am
More villains for one arc would be a terrible idea. Besides, those gods are the only villain material we have now. Who else would be strong enough to pose a threat? Re-re-resurrected Frieza?
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by Lapis » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:05 am
I didn't think the other God of Destruction would looks so similar to Beerus.
I expected Toriyama to use some of his Neko Majin designs.
Anyway I can't wait to see what kind of personality Beerus' brother has. He looks like a real bully lol.
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by dbgtFO » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:11 am
Obviously Fat!Beerus is to Beerus, what Grey Buu is to Fat Buu and Demon King Piccolo is to Katatz' son.
Fem!Whis is just a female version of whatever species Whis is.
Or maybe Fat!Beerus is a past version of Beerus and Fem!Whis is Whis before his obvious sex change...
Speculation aside we are less than a week from the first chapter of the manga right? Given it's the first chapter, we might just get more than the usual 13-15 pages of the original manga and maybe as much as 30-40 pages.
One can hope..