"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[emperior]

Seems like the poster says "The technique of the Gods has been completed"
It may really be the Kaio-Ken considering how much Goku has been spamming it recently.
It *could* actually be Toriyama's idea this time though, considering it's possible Goku mastered it in the year of gap between FT and US arcs and that would be why Goku was seeking for a challenge. Would also give some meaning to the fact Goku intended to master the Kaio-Ken back in Champa arc and also when he told Toppo he was going to surpass his limits.

My interpretation would be that this is the endgame of the Super Saiyan God forms, a TRUE God form that isn't using Super Saiyan to use the power.
Also interestingly it looks like Goku has the Super Saiyan God muscles.

I hope it is, I would like your idea though they would have to either call it Saiyan God or retcon Super Saiyan God into Saiyan God and call this new form SSG. Or obviously come up with a new name which could very well be SSG 2 or True SSG or just call it SSG and pretend like the one we saw was a false SSG.

By the way Goku doesn't have SSG muscles there. It's just the new artstyle. He looks fucking awesome though, I don't like overly buff designs. I love how Toriyama draws Goku's and Vegeta's body nowadays.
For example Goku Black was excellent in my opinion, as he had a sleek body but he still got some muscles - like a true martial artist (ex. Bruce Lee)

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Seems like the poster says "The technique of the Gods has been completed"
It may really be the Kaio-Ken considering how much Goku has been spamming it recently.
It *could* actually be Toriyama's idea this time though, considering it's possible Goku mastered it in the year of gap between FT and US arcs and that would be why Goku was seeking for a challenge. Would also give some meaning to the fact Goku intended to master the Kaio-Ken back in Champa arc and also when he told Toppo he was going to surpass his limits.

You don't have evidence it wasn't his idea to begin with. Kinda silly to parade around like it's fact when it's not. Unless I'm missing something and he did an interview where he explicitly stated he didn't come up with it?

[Ki Breaker]

Goku does look Skinner..
Something related to SSG could be correct but SSG is weaker than SSB so I don't know why they would go there

Like I said, not Super Saiyan God, but the endgame of the God Forms, a true God Form that doesn't use Super Saiyan.

Fair enough..
But that form seems to have features of SSG, leaner body, red watery like aura around..
Could just be added to beautify the art though

[Grimlock]

*sigh* yet another new form for Goku/for Saiyans/that won't be explained? How many transformations they will give for Goku? Why don't they just give Piccolo a transformation?

[Ki Breaker]

*sigh* yet another new form for Goku/for Saiyans/that won't be explained? How many transformations they will give for Goku? Why don't they just give Piccolo a transformation?

Because elder muri mistook the book of legends for toilet paper rolls..
Maybe now they will listen and stop writing in scrolls

[emperior]

Seems like the poster says "The technique of the Gods has been completed"
It may really be the Kaio-Ken considering how much Goku has been spamming it recently.
It *could* actually be Toriyama's idea this time though, considering it's possible Goku mastered it in the year of gap between FT and US arcs and that would be why Goku was seeking for a challenge. Would also give some meaning to the fact Goku intended to master the Kaio-Ken back in Champa arc and also when he told Toppo he was going to surpass his limits.

You don't have evidence it wasn't his idea to begin with. Kinda silly to parade around like it's fact when it's not. Unless I'm missing something and he did an interview where he explicitly stated he didn't come up with it?

You may be right but Kaio-Ken didn't appear in the manga so it's safe to say it wasn't in the outline. Unless they decided that the manga had to be different from the anime for some reason.
By the way Toriyama must have approved Toei's idea of bringing back Kaio-Ken (if it was Toei's idea) considering that it seems like he's heavily involved with the scripts and storyboards of the anime (he said in a interview that sometimes he asks the anime staff to change some storyboards, or maybe he was referring to scripts - he said it in the interview where he also foreshadowed Future Trunks' return)
It's quite probable that Toei wanted Kaio-Ken back and Toriyama not only approved it but gave some explanations on why it can work with Blue and also that "10% percent chance of it working" thing from Champa arc might have very well been a Toriyama's idea. As well as Hit's evolving abilities.

[sintzu]

How many transformations they will give for Goku ?

I'm surprised it took this long to give him a new one. I'm guessing by the time Super ends he will have gotten 5 new forms while Vegeta maybe 4.

[Nero<>Akira]

yay. op will be changed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5fZmZGGhyA

[Ki Breaker]

While transformations are fun, they are starting to add up..

Z went the route of powering up, it would be great if super took a different route

[TheSaiyanGod]

I do not know if anyone else has mentioned it here, but at Opening and Ending, Goku is shown at certain times with a bright white aura surrounding his body.
And really, this aura does not appear all the time.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

This aura has been reemphasized now, and I believe it is directly related to the new transformation. I do not think it would be the base form, the hair does not look like an SSJ.

Would this be white hair initially planned for the SSGSS transformation?

[Nero<>Akira]

I do not know if anyone else has mentioned it here, but at Opening and Ending, Goku is shown at certain times with a bright white aura surrounding his body.
And really, this aura does not appear all the time.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

This aura has been reemphasized now, and I believe it is directly related to the new transformation. I do not think it would be the base form, the hair does not look like an SSJ.

Was it the white hair that Toriyama initially planned for the SSGSS?

O was just about to mention this. I never saw this before but i did see it in the youtube link i posted and was like "whoa what?"

[ekrolo2]

The manga probably hinted at this with Completed Blue so I'm just gonna assume it's Goku forcing Blue + KK completely into his body.

[Jigurashi]

*sigh* yet another new form for Goku/for Saiyans/that won't be explained? How many transformations they will give for Goku? Why don't they just give Piccolo a transformation?

I didn't know you had a crystal ball that told you it won't be explained.

[HeroR]

A new transformation for Goku, what a novel idea! Wait..., Oozaru, Kaioken, SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJG, SSJB, Kaioken SSJB; oh!

I'm not excited at all for it. It's possible to make a new transformation interesting, I just really doubt it's going to happen here. Why can't they at least develop the current transformations, like it was done with the original SSJ and Blue in the manga. Offer struggles and dilemmas, make the end product much more rewarding than power up to save the day.

Blue shouldn't even have been a thing, when we had SSJ God.

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan was devopled and mastered in the anime. The manga version just sucks and had all those drawbacks to justify Super Saiyan God.

[Grimlock]

I didn't know you had a crystal ball that told you it won't be explained.

Then please enlighten me what Super Saiyan Rage is, oh great sage.

[perucho1990]

Universe 6 team looks the most interesting, even our team pales in comparison to how different each character is and how much confidence they are emitting

Kale seems to be showing as much confident as Gohan did in the Saiyan Saga, I mean what is she going to do if she isnt transformed? Just Caulifla and Cabba protecting her?

One way they could trigger her is if they have Cabba kissing Caulifla

[HeroR]

What are you on about? This is will be a *new* transformation, it's not exclusive to anyone prior. Goku got SS1,3 God first, no Saiyan should ever have gotten SS after the Freeza but here we are, you're right actually it's about time they stopped giving other transformations of Goku to others the only exclusive he has is SSGSSKK and that's not even a proper transformation! So yes Goku getting a new exclusive form is absolutely needed!

I bet Vegeta and Gohan get this form too, but not in this arc.

Of it's god form, Gohan isn't getting it.

[Chuquita]

New form and/or kaioken? I'm good with that.

Also I'm impressed we're actually having shirtless Gokû return.

We don't know if it's kaioken..
We just know this much

"the technique of the gods ends/is perfected here"

Now that I look at the picture with a more alert brain I see it looks like a mixture of blue, ssjg, and base form. I wonder what color the eyes will be. (If mixing red and blue...purple?)

[Xeztin]

Is the new visual for Goku's form actually his form? Or is it like when Goku first went SSJ and hus hair lifts and flicks before changing gold? If not then what is it?

[LightBing]

A new transformation for Goku, what a novel idea! Wait..., Oozaru, Kaioken, SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJG, SSJB, Kaioken SSJB; oh!

I'm not excited at all for it. It's possible to make a new transformation interesting, I just really doubt it's going to happen here. Why can't they at least develop the current transformations, like it was done with the original SSJ and Blue in the manga. Offer struggles and dilemmas, make the end product much more rewarding than power up to save the day.

Blue shouldn't even have been a thing, when we had SSJ God.

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan was devopled and mastered in the anime. The manga version just sucks and had all those drawbacks to justify Super Saiyan God.

It wasn't developed in the anime. Blue in the anime is a form with perfect Ki control, if they needed to master it they didn't bother tell us or offering any plot points because of it. They simply had it by the time of the U6 tournament.

The manga gave it meaning(no matter if people like it or not), it offered handicaps, used them in the stories and forced the characters to have something to strive for while showing off their strong points. That's development.