"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[SansrivaaL]

Thats weird, I thought it was saying Gods ultimate technique not perfected, since I wasnt sure at first I asked my Japanese friend about what it meant and he said "it means ultimate, but on a higher level, like giving huge respect to someone or something that reaches the heavens after I showed him the poster, then later I read Herms ver on it and he took it as perfected or end...

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Except that didn't happen in the manga continuity. People really need to learn to distinguish continuities.

F happened in the manga, it just wasn't shown. Without it having it's own adaptation we just have to assume that it happened the same as in the movie.

We don't. Why don't we assume that Toyotarõ would have made FnF in compliance to what he wrote after? Which in my view is the most logical development, he did smalls changes in the BoG arc to make Super Saiyan God permanent.
That's what I like to think, that still doesn't make it true.

Criticizing or praising anything based on assumptions is wrong. Since people don't have anything palpable to lean their opinions on.

FnF still fits in the manga continuity. From what we know, SSB's full power doesn't last long in the manga, and that they can't hold the form forever, not that it constantly drains the user's ki. I mean, SS3 constantly drains the user's ki, and then (for those who are alive) after 5 minutes it speeds up & drains everything the user has (even Fusion time or time of the dead in the Living World). The fact that Goku & Vegeta could beat Golden Freeza simply means that Freeza's Golden form was much more flawed than Goku's & Vegeta's SSB. Maybe the way SSB works in the manga is, it drops from full power after a few seconds, stops draining ki, and then after several minutes it starts draining more ki again. The point is, as flawed as SSB was, Golden Freeza was even more flawed.

[amuroray]

THANK GOD goku has a new transformation. Would be silly for the likes of 17 and gohan to catch up with him after doing barely any serious training or going trhogh the things goku and vegeta have.

Goku should always stand alone.

[Jigurashi]

I don't know. The very earliest I see Goku fitting Jiren is episode 101, and even then I don't see him fighting him then. I honestly don't see them pulling a red herring with Jiren.

He seems to be going for jiren in the nep itself

Yes but we know from spoilers he seems to be fighting 8 different people. Sure one of them could be Jiren, but given all Jiren's hype as Goku's newest major rival, I think it's more likely they'll tease their figt in tomorrow's episode for them to have their big rift in a later episode.

I agree that it's possible they might begin fighting, but whether they do or not, after the hyping of this fight for months, I honestly don't see them having their big fight until episodes later, and I definitely see Jiren being the real deal.

[Lapislettuce]

THANK GOD goku has a new transformation. Would be silly for the likes of 17 and gohan to catch up with him after doing barely any serious training or going trhogh the things goku and vegeta have.

Goku should always stand alone.

We don't know what kind of training 17 did, and from the looks of it Goku's new transformation is going to be random i don't see how it is from "serious training" but i agree Goku should always have stand alone since he's the main character that way fans of the other characters would know their place i guess.

[RedHeat]

Does this have any bearing? [spoiler][/spoiler]

[precita]

So Super Saiyan Blue is totally worthless then? It was supposed to be the characters with God power, now there's something above it?

[Nekis13]

People are saying Goku's hair looks like Super Saiyan's in the poster? It looks more like a mohawk to me

[Chuquita]

Does this have any bearing? [spoiler][/spoiler]

I've seen that before and I know it's old.

Could be from that filler arc of Z where they gave ssj Gokû his base hair color. That's the only time he was both dead and had that hair style/color combination.

[Grimlock]

Does this have any bearing? [spoiler][/spoiler]

No. For some reason, the artist who did that image just wanted to draw his hair like that (maybe as an inspiration from that Dragon Ball Z's episode?). It means nothing, card doesn't reference anything "new" nor Goku's in-game model is different.

[MainJPW]

Attempt at a front view by youngjijiii on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/youngjijii/status/8 ... 4407389185
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The hair certainly looks different from SSJ.

[Nekis13]

Attempt at a front view by youngjijiii on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/youngjijii/status/8 ... 4407389185
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The hair certainly looks different from SSJ.

It looks similar to the thing shown in OP with the front bangs and stuff. Hopefully the actual transformation looks like that

[amuroray]

THANK GOD goku has a new transformation. Would be silly for the likes of 17 and gohan to catch up with him after doing barely any serious training or going trhogh the things goku and vegeta have.

Goku should always stand alone.

We don't know what kind of training 17 did, and from the looks of it Goku's new transformation is going to be random i don't see how it is from "serious training" but i agree Goku should always have stand alone since he's the main character that way fans of the other characters would know their place i guess.

Lol 17 got strong from fighting poachers on some random island ffs. Thats awful.

Think about what training and fights goku has done/been involved with since the cell saga. No one bar vegeta should be anywhere close.

And please done say 17 has potential. hate that shit.

[Cetra]

And please done say 17 has potential. hate that shit.

When Toei said Toriyama-san they want to show off 17 he himself agreed saying there is a lot of potential he has (me re-phrasing it, I don't have the quote right here).

[Snakeway Skywalker]

Lol 17 got strong from fighting poachers on some random island ffs. Thats awful.

Think about what training and fights goku has done/been involved with since the cell saga. No one bar vegeta should be anywhere close.

And please done say 17 has potential. hate that shit.

Ikr? This exactly what I thought when I saw that episode with 17's return. I mean, how can 17, who's been chilling on an island with animals, be able to fight SSB Goku, who's literally saved the world a bunch of times since the Cell saga, involving fighting gods. But okay, I understand we need to have everyone on the Universe 7 team get super unrealistically tough for the tournament.

[Yedis]

Lol 17 got strong from fighting poachers on some random island ffs. Thats awful.

Vegeta gets stronger from punching air in the ROSAT, Those poachers are probably slighter better opponents.

[amuroray]

Lol 17 got strong from fighting poachers on some random island ffs. Thats awful.

Vegeta gets stronger from punching air in the ROSAT, Those poachers are probably slighter better opponents.

Lol The environment of the chamber makes the training in there worth it.

[amuroray]

Lol 17 got strong from fighting poachers on some random island ffs. Thats awful.

Think about what training and fights goku has done/been involved with since the cell saga. No one bar vegeta should be anywhere close.

And please done say 17 has potential. hate that shit.

Ikr? This exactly what I thought when I saw that episode with 17's return. I mean, how can 17, who's been chilling on an island with animals, be able to fight SSB Goku, who's literally saved the world a bunch of times since the Cell saga, involving fighting gods. But okay, I understand we need to have everyone on the Universe 7 team get super unrealistically tough for the tournament.

Goku got trained by whis himself aswell

Aboslute crazyiness. At least goku is now in front of everybody by a big stretch i presume.

[Bullza]

Saiyan Beyond God Goku with a Kaioken multiplier so high it puts him above Blue Goku with Kaioken? Because it'd be more stable that way?

[perucho1990]

Lol 17 got strong from fighting poachers on some random island ffs. Thats awful.

Think about what training and fights goku has done/been involved with since the cell saga. No one bar vegeta should be anywhere close.

And please done say 17 has potential. hate that shit.

IMO the whole potential stuff is the main reason why Goten and Trunks are being omitted in DBS, because if they train they will become OP as hell like Gohan and Mirai Trunks did after hours of training.

I agree that 17 has the worst excuse in reaching Blue tier.