The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[In Brightest Day]

While I don't think the Earthlings could have withstood the RoSaT at that point, considering Gohan went into it without having even transformed into a Super Saiyan yet it seems as if a good part of what makes it so difficult is the mental side of it, as well as the physical aspect. Physically, it's certainly arguable whether they would have ever been able to get through it.

[dbzfan7]

Who is nicer?

Goku vs Vic Mignogna

I really don't know. I met Vic sometime last year and like Goku his personality, voice, and expression just give off a kind nature like Goku.

[Mystic Gohan]

Goku can be pretty brutal sometimes.

[Son_Gohan]

Who is nicer?

Goku vs Vic Mignogna

I really don't know. I met Vic sometime last year and like Goku his personality, voice, and expression just give off a kind nature like Goku.

We can tell that Goku's personality is genuine though. Vic is an actor, so how he displays himself towards his fans shouldn't reflect his true nature.

[Nex Carnifex]

Base Rilld vs Ledgic. Goku stated Rilld was stronger than Majin Buu already in just his starting form, yet he seemed to still not have a problem even fighting in base form. But Ledgic, a random alien from earlier, gave Goku a much better fight. Who would win in the GT universe, Base form Rilld or Ledgic?

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Are you still on about Ledgic being a "random alien"?

Rild wins, simply because he has an metallic abilities.

[Kaboom]

Are you still on about Ledgic being a "random alien"?

GT never gave any sort of background on him (beyond him seeming to know who Saiyans are), so for all we know that's all he is. An abnormally-powerful random alien.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Are you still on about Ledgic being a "random alien"?

GT never gave any sort of background on him (beyond him seeming to know who Saiyans are), so for all we know that's all he is. An abnormally-powerful random alien.

The thing is, the galaxy is a vast place. It's more than certainty that there are guys out there that are very strong. It can't be just Saiyans and the Freeza clan. Many aliens seem to know who Saiyans are anyway.

[Saiga]

Are you still on about Ledgic being a "random alien"?

GT never gave any sort of background on him (beyond him seeming to know who Saiyans are), so for all we know that's all he is. An abnormally-powerful random alien.

The thing is, the galaxy is a vast place. It's more than certainty that there are guys out there that are very strong. It can't be just Saiyans and the Freeza clan. Many aliens seem to know who Saiyans are anyway.

He's still just a random alien with no explanation on his power.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Seriously? That's your best explanation?

Same thing can be said about someone like, say, Bojack.

[Saiga]

Seriously? That's your best explanation?

Same thing can be said about someone like, say, Bojack.

It's the only explanation.

And yes, it can.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

I have to say that's lamest explanation. No one complained about Bojack, yet you guys complained about Ledgic.

Honestly, you really expect no one in the entrie galaxy to be equal on the Saiyans' strength, do you? It really isn't random if you think about it...

[Saiga]

I have to say that's lamest explanation. No one complained about Bojack, yet you guys complained about Ledgic.

Honestly, you really expect no one in the entrie galaxy to be equal on the Saiyans' strength, do you? It really isn't random if you think about it...

We weren't talking about Bojack, maybe that's why...

But even then, Bojack has a back story. One that explains why he wasn't active when Freeza was.

The problem is that Freeza was the strongest in the Galaxy and no one came close. But to find out that there are random aliens out there that can fight with SS GT Goku is bullshit without any proper reasoning, because it raises the question: How was Freeza so special?

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

And where does Freeza come from? His power was a SSJ-tier. Maybe powerful aliens never came across Freeza? Maybe that's why we never saw any strong alien beside Freeza?

To say Ledgic was a random alien is just silly. He was hired as a bodyguard. It just happened to have Goku and pals landed on the planet he was on. He, like Goku, seems to love fight strong opponent. Maybe that's why he was so strong?

[Saiga]

And where does Freeza come from? His power was a SSJ-tier. Maybe powerful aliens never came across Freeza? Maybe that's why we never saw any strong alien beside Freeza?

To say Ledgic was a random alien is just silly. He was hired as a bodyguard. It just happened to have Goku and pals landed on the planet he was on. He, like Goku, seems to love fight strong opponent. Maybe that's why he was so strong?

You're missing the point. Freeza was known as the strongest being in the universe at the time. For their to be other aliens farting around being waaaay stronger contradicts that.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

And where does Freeza come from? His power was a SSJ-tier. Maybe powerful aliens never came across Freeza? Maybe that's why we never saw any strong alien beside Freeza?

To say Ledgic was a random alien is just silly. He was hired as a bodyguard. It just happened to have Goku and pals landed on the planet he was on. He, like Goku, seems to love fight strong opponent. Maybe that's why he was so strong?

You're missing the point. Freeza was known as the strongest being in the universe at the time. For their to be other aliens farting around being waaaay stronger contradicts that.

Maybe, maybe not. You just decided to contradict it. Why Ledgic was there and how he was as strong as SSJ Goku were open to interpretation. Maybe he was born with natural high battle power and trained for many years. Maybe he was born some time after Freeza was defeated. Or maybe Ledgic didn't care about Freeza and didn't think it's worth his time.

I've said it repeatedly, the galaxy is a huge place with thousands of races all over it. Some are strong, some are not. Some are smart, some are stupid. Some are giants, some are tiny. Some are mutants, some are normal. Some are violent, some are peaceful. Anything can happen. You just imagine.

[Saiga]

Maybe, maybe not. You just decided to contradict it. Why Ledgic was there and how he was as strong as SSJ Goku were open to interpretation. Maybe he was born with natural high battle power and trained for many years. Maybe he was born some time after Freeza was defeated. Or maybe Ledgic didn't care about Freeza and didn't think it's worth his time.

I've said it repeatedly, the galaxy is a huge place with thousands of races all over it. Some are strong, some are not. Some are smart, some are stupid. Some are giants, some are tiny. Some are mutants, some are normal. Some are violent, some are peaceful. Anything can happen. You just imagine.

I didn't just decide. For it not to be a contradiction, it'd have to explain itself... which it doesn't.

And the galaxy has people watching over it who knew Freeza was the strongest in the Universe.

[Rocketman]

GT is 25 years after Freeza's death. While Ledgic is a random alien in the sense that he has absolutely no backstory at all, a quarter-century is long enough for new powers to arise.

[Saiga]

GT is 25 years after Freeza's death. While Ledgic is a random alien in the sense that he has absolutely no backstory at all, a quarter-century is long enough for new powers to arise.

Even then, to give rise to something like Ledgic you'd think his race would be notable but no explanation is given at all.

And the fact that he can be compared to Majin Boo because of his battle with Goku makes his power extremely bullshit.

[Fox666]

Even then, to give rise to something like Ledgic you'd think his race would be notable but no explanation is given at all.

But we have never been given any detail about Freeza's "race" at all. The same goes for Zarbon or the Ginyu Tokusentai. And we shouldn't, since the idea of Freeza belonding to an entire all-powerful species is a misunderstand.

As far the manga goes, Ginyu briefly mention that the Ginyu Tokusentai are genetic mutations, and presumably the same goes for Freeza. Toriyama also called Freeza a mutant once, and in a interview he was asked about Freeza's race, which he answered they are more like hybrids or something, so there aren't many of them.