Xyex wrote:
There is nothing to indicate or suggest that he's been in the ocean for a long time, nor to suggest that he wasn't floating face up for the majority of the time (people can, do, and will float face up when unconscious). And no, what we interpret from the page is that Brolly was in the water, unconscious, and the shockwave/tidalwave from Trunks's blast woke him. There's nothing to say he was floating face down in the water for any length of time prior to this. What's more, Vegetto's currently holding his breath in deep space in the main story, and has been for several minutes. Even if Brolly had been face down in the water for the last ten or fifteen minutes I seriously doubt it'd be a breathing issue.
When someone is unconscious, its impossible to hold the breath. Holding the breath is a conscious decision. Someone unconscious just lets the air go out of the lungs and if its impossible to breath in, the person either wakes up and reaches for air or suffocates. So, I admit that he can be in space as long as he can hold his breath and he might not even need it in LSSJ, but when he is unconscious (and out of LSSJ) that is impossible.
On this page he is unconscious, face down, before he wakes up. Since its impossible for him to breathe in that position, since he can`s hold his breath while unconscious, and since he didn`t wake up when his face became submerged (only when the tsunami hit), he should have suffocated.
At the very least the page is poorly explained. There is no point in trying to deny it.
And correct me if I'm wrong, as it's been a long time since I've seen it, but Brolly seemed perfectly capable of sensing ki in movie 10, upon which this is based.
He did? Well, its been a long time, I don`t remember. I still don`t agree that he should be able to, but if the movie is like that, then they didn`t make that part worse. So, I`ll concede that point.
As I've said before, you power level has jack shit to do with how your ki feels. It's completely unrelated and unimportant. This is exemplified in Cell, who exhibits multiple signatures that everyone uniquely identifies to those who have 'contributed' DNA to him. Considering we have absolutely no fucking idea what this 'feel' is that they use to identify each other there's no reason to think that if Goten can LOOK exactly like Goku that he can't also FEEL exactly like Goku. Goku and Goten are very different people with very distinct personalities and very different power levels, but they look nearly physically identical. Kids can look like practical clones of their father's but it's impossible for them to FEEL like clones, too? How the hell does that make any sense?
Simply because Ki consists heavily on spiritual energy as well as physical. The soul, in other words and the body. Its not just physical appearance. Saying that Goten feels just like Goku makes as much sense to me as saying that Tullece fells exactly like Goku.
If Goten`s ki has some familiarity with Goku`s Ki is simply because he is his son. But that being the case, the Ki shouldn`t be more similar to Goku`s than Gohan`s.
But I`ll concede this point too, because it actually doesn`t bother much at all. Its possible that Brolly just hasn`t mastered fully his ki sensing abilities, but that could also be better explained in the page.
You know, I find it amusing how people keep deriding the narrative content of the specials, while praising DBM's writing, and completely ignoring the fact that Salagir is responsible for all of the stories. He gives the special chapter artists the stories, they draw them and plop in the narrative provided.
So yes, every single complaint you mentioned is just exaggeration made so that people can bitch about nothing. And it's getting REALLY old.
I`m perfectly aware that Salagir is responsible for the stories of these specials. So? The same author can`t do a better job in one place and a job not as good on another place?
It has nothing to do with who does them. Nothing at all. It only has to do with the story.
Now, you should just relax and calm down. You are not being fair to me since this is actually the first time that I`ve complained about DBM, unlike most. And so, I think I`ve earned the right to complain if I think that something could be better.
I still think this is by far the best fan manga out there. And there is very little wrong with it. But this page could have been better since the story of Movie 10 that reflects this part is actually more convincing (because it included a space ship and it didn`t include Brolly unconscious, face down, in the water. The Ki sensing and confusing Goten for Goku because of his Ki actually doesn`t bother me as much as that).
In short, what I`m trying to say is that this page is really, really far from the best I`ve seen in this manga.
But, like I said, I love this manga
. Don`t get me wrong on that.
All well now that he is introduced, the sooner this special can get to the point.
I also find the idea of him trying to stand up for six years to be quite humorous. 
