Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:42 am

ArchedThunder wrote:I don't understand why they've started using Kitano to fill the gaps to give other supervisors more time, he's not nearly good enough for that kind of role. I just hope it leads to 68 and 69 being nice looking episodes.
If we're getting 4 solid episodes of combat it makes sense to sacrifice one of them, especially with how thinly spread Toei is right now. If 67 ends up being the end of the fight then I'm going to be puzzled as to why they gave that to Kitano so soon after his last episode when they have so many other supervisors.
Yeah, Toei is really spreading the staff thin.
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Also, I'm a little worried about Shimanuki's input on this episode, his only had five weeks since he last supervised(including some uncredited corrections he did in ep 64) and knowing he isn't particularly swift, I'm worried if it means Karasawa is going to be doing the majority of the corrections, with Shimanuki doing only the little scenes we saw in the preview, or if Shimanuki's output is going to be rougher at some points during the episode. Either way, it's a little worrying.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:44 am

I don't think those last 3 are Shimanuki corrections.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:48 am

Yeah, I think there's also a mix of Ide in there, but I think there is enough of him in it to lead me into thinking he definitely corrected parts of ep 64.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:53 am

I don't see any Shimanuki in those bottom three.
This image of 67 makes me wonder if the episode is even a Wanpak episode. Maybe 67 is Tsutomu Ono & Yukihiro Kitano while 68 is Hiroyuki Itai & Yui Kinoshita, meaning Newtype had those episodes backwards.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:05 am

Upon re-looking them, I don't think they are the best displays of Shimanuki's role in that episode, so I've edited them out of the post.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by Psykomatik » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:07 am

ArchedThunder wrote:I don't see any Shimanuki in those bottom three.
This image of 67 makes me wonder if the episode is even a Wanpak episode. Maybe 67 is Tsutomu Ono & Yukihiro Kitano while 68 is Hiroyuki Itai & Yui Kinoshita, meaning Newtype had those episodes backwards.
Or maybe NewType got it wrong for everything.
I expect Yamamuro to be AS with Kitano in 67, like in 13.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:19 am

Psykomatik wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:I don't see any Shimanuki in those bottom three.
This image of 67 makes me wonder if the episode is even a Wanpak episode. Maybe 67 is Tsutomu Ono & Yukihiro Kitano while 68 is Hiroyuki Itai & Yui Kinoshita, meaning Newtype had those episodes backwards.
Or maybe NewType got it wrong for everything.
I expect Yamamuro to be AS with Kitano in 67, like in 13.
If Yamamuro was on the episode they'd probably use a shot of his instead of an ugly Kitano shot. Also the last time Yamamuro was a Supervisor with Kitano the latter was unrecognizable, I don't think Yamamuro would let a shot like that preview image through on an episode he was supervising on.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:25 am

Kitano with five weeks, that doesn't sound apealing at all! If this is really the case, maybe they're giving Itai and Kinoshita more time to polish their episode? I'll guess we should strap ourselves in for the ride if it is Kitano, that should definetly be something. :thumbup:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by Ajay » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:53 am

Oh...

That sure looks like Kitano.

Well, as JazzMazz said, we're certainly in for a ride.

Please look forward to Kitano's Inferno in what is sure to be one of the biggest quality whiplashes in a while!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:06 am

First Yashima supervises two episodes in a row, then Tate has to produce major action cuts for ep 63 and supervise 65, and now Kitano is given an episode 5 weeks after his previous one(poor guy). It definitely seems that Toei is stretching their staff to the limit in order to get through this arc. Hopefully, 68 and 69 don't look completely terrible.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:08 am

I'm expecting a quality rollercoaster that looks like this.
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Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised with 67... but probably not.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:15 am

ArchedThunder wrote:I'm expecting a quality rollercoaster that looks like this.
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Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised with 67... but probably not.
I feel like it will probably remain at a consistent quality after ep 69(Hopefully :shifty: ).

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:19 am

I gotta wonder how off the Newtype listings are this time, not seeing Takamura Kaoru listed on one of the episodes seems a bit odd, you'd think they'd use everyone they have since everyone has to be doubled up and his last episode was 61.
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ArchedThunder wrote:I'm expecting a quality rollercoaster that looks like this.
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Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised with 67... but probably not.
I feel like it will probably remain at a consistent quality after ep 69(Hopefully :shifty: ).
If they've managed to get a good amount of preproduction done on the next arc hopefully they won't have to double up on supervisors as much and then we'll never have to worry about stuff like Kitano doing an episode so quickly after his last.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:27 am

ArchedThunder wrote:I gotta wonder how off the Newtype listings are this time, not seeing Takamura Kaoru listed on one of the episodes seems a bit odd, you'd think they'd use everyone they have since everyone has to be doubled up and his last episode was 61.
JazzMazz wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:I'm expecting a quality rollercoaster that looks like this.
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Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised with 67... but probably not.
I feel like it will probably remain at a consistent quality after ep 69(Hopefully :shifty: ).
If they've managed to get a good amount of preproduction done on the next arc hopefully they won't have to double up on supervisors as much and then we'll never have to worry about stuff like Kitano doing an episode so quickly after his last.
Yeah, I'm thinking that the usage of Yashima and Kitano have been either to a) improve the schedule and allow better animators and supervisors more time to polish their episodes on a more consistent basis.
or b) They just really, really need to get those episodes done and everyone else is tied up doing their own episodes.(really hope this isn't the case because it means we'll probably be seeing more of this type of scheduling later down the line)
I really hope that it's the former of which rather than the latter. :)

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by nite_jay » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:07 am

Kitano just makes me upset now lol. Does he have to have a ruler to draw well or something? His faces always look like a jumbled mess of proportions when rushed.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by BakaManiaHD » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:32 am

Kitano again? Meh... Toei.. Please give him more time
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:01 am

In order for the next story arc to have consistent quality either Super needs to go on a temporary hiatus or entirely outsource the next filler arc, so that the in-house staff can get more time. These are the only 2 options I can think of that will help in improving the terrible schedule.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by Lujin_16 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:34 am

I don't think the pic of episode 67 looks bad maybe you guys are expecting to much i have seen much more worse that that

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by Bansho64 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:39 am

Lujin_16 wrote:I don't think the pic of episode 67 looks bad maybe you guys are expecting to much i have seen much more worse that that
Seeing much worse doesn't make what we're seeing any better.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 65

Post by Lujin_16 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:06 am

Bansho64 wrote:
Lujin_16 wrote:I don't think the pic of episode 67 looks bad maybe you guys are expecting to much i have seen much more worse that that
Seeing much worse doesn't make what we're seeing any better.
It is okei but not bad that's for sure

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