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Saikyo no Senshi wrote:When fans say "off-model" is bad animation. I'm sick of the word "off-model".
- Travis
It's a perfectly legitimate term and yes, if it is off model, there's a good chance it's bad animation.
I should've been more specific. My point was that off model doesn't automatically mean bad animation and this is something fans say a lot and it grinds my gears.
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The characters are loosely modeled but what makes this cut good is the interesting movements, movements which have an impact not to mention the wonderful exaggerated character expressions.
People who don't say Cooler the way Arnold Schwarzenegger would tick me off.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:People who don't say Cooler the way Arnold Schwarzenegger would tick me off.
How would that be?
Anyone who doesn't say it the way Arnold Schwarzenegger would of course!
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:Anyone who doesn't say it the way Arnold Schwarzenegger would of course!
... How would he say it?
COOLA!
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
When someone makes a photo of every form for a character, let's say Goku, then acts like a prick over you asking him why 4 got excluded. Bonus points if "NOT CANON!" is his answer.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:When someone makes a photo of every form for a character, let's say Goku, then acts like a prick over you asking him why 4 got excluded. Bonus points if "NOT CANON!" is his answer.
ekrolo2 wrote:When someone makes a photo of every form for a character, let's say Goku, then acts like a prick over you asking him why 4 got excluded. Bonus points if "NOT CANON!" is his answer.
What's a Goku?
A breed of monkey.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
ekrolo2 wrote:When someone makes a photo of every form for a character, let's say Goku, then acts like a prick over you asking him why 4 got excluded. Bonus points if "NOT CANON!" is his answer.
What's a Goku?
A breed of monkey.
I thought it was a type of food, like marriage.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:When someone makes a photo of every form for a character, let's say Goku, then acts like a prick over you asking him why 4 got excluded. Bonus points if "NOT CANON!" is his answer.
Probably Kanzenshuu's biggest Bulla fangirl. Current avatar: DBU Bulla as Sailor Princess Sadala, based on Sailor Moon: Cosmic Dance
Dragon Ball Ultimate - 74 out of 150 chapters complete JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Action Blue - link Sailor Moon: Mindful of Love - link | Sailor Moon: Cosmic Dance - link
Someone bringing up power levels BS in a DBS episode discussion because for some reason a bunch of imaginary numbers that the franchise has been giving a shit for decades is more important than anything else worth discussing...So much cancer I get when this happens.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
When people forgive Dragon Ball for things that they'd murder any other series for. For example, if Naruto suddenly established that Kakashi could get rage boosts Naruto's Fox forms style out of nowhere, I would bet my right arm that I could find hundreds of essays rivaling every JRR Tolkien book in length about why Naruto is worse than the holocaust for giving Kakashi such an ability. But when Dragon Ball does it? Fanboys will bullshit any way for it to make sense, because apparently Dragon Ball is such a fragile little thing that it'll die if we don't all stroke its ego.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:When people forgive Dragon Ball for things that they'd murder any other series for. For example, if Naruto suddenly established that Kakashi could get rage boosts Naruto's Fox forms style out of nowhere, I would bet my right arm that I could find hundreds of essays rivaling every JRR Tolkien book in length about why Naruto is worse than the holocaust for giving Kakashi such an ability. But when Dragon Ball does it? Fanboys will bullshit any way for it to make sense, because apparently Dragon Ball is such a fragile little thing that it'll die if we don't all stroke its ego.
Not many people care either way. You're exaggerating.
ekrolo2 wrote:When people forgive Dragon Ball for things that they'd murder any other series for. For example, if Naruto suddenly established that Kakashi could get rage boosts Naruto's Fox forms style out of nowhere, I would bet my right arm that I could find hundreds of essays rivaling every JRR Tolkien book in length about why Naruto is worse than the holocaust for giving Kakashi such an ability. But when Dragon Ball does it? Fanboys will bullshit any way for it to make sense, because apparently Dragon Ball is such a fragile little thing that it'll die if we don't all stroke its ego.
When it's as badass as Vegeta's fight with Beerus, I really couldn't care less if it makes sense or not. One Piece does the same thing where characters just "try harder" and suddenly they become three times as strong as they were 10 minutes ago.
I would have thought that people who have the ability to go on the internet could read. I like to imagine them reading Goku Black somewhere and for some unexplainable reason, their brain processes it as "Black Goku." Come on people.
