"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by RedHeat » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:23 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
precita wrote:SSJB Caulifa is very likely to happen, as much as people hate it the same way they hated her getting SSJ or SSJ2 so fast. It's gonna happen whether we like it or not.
The description makes it sound more like Kale transforms while Caulifla is figuring it out to me. I think she'll get the basic idea down, but will need to practice after the tournament to actually achieve the transformation.
Kinda hope she gets SSJ Rage instead. That form can use more explanation.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:31 pm

The thing that leads people into believing Cauli may get SSJB other than her BS tingly sensation genius hurr durr ass is because of how devalued it became after Goku used it left and right on the recruitment eps, I mean if Goku's getting a new one then someone other than Vegeta needs to promote the hell out of it. Hell after calming down I wouldnt mind Cauli getting SSJB now, who knows maybe thats what Toei was aiming for from the start, have Goku keep using it to have the form's value worth look less and less (tho it would still be BS but I dont give a crap anymore)
PS I'm not saying she's guaranteed to transform since some of you here likes to jump on people theorizing about her having a chance of gaining the form midway this arc, I'm talking about a what if scenario if she does end up transforming into one.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 pm

SansrivaaL wrote: Hell after calming down I wouldnt mind Cauli getting SSJB now
Brother, I don't know how much calm have you gotten but it's nothing less than that of a saint if you are okay with this..
I had a nice long sleep got my work done and still am confident it would be extremely foolish for her to actually receive SSB in the tournament as well
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Post by HeroR » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:41 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:All Whis did to further Goku and Vegeta's SSB training was teach them to keep their ki inside and made them fight in the staff so they had to do it. In fact, the very next episode after Whis teaches them that, he's irritated that they get more out of punching each other than they do from listening to him. There's nothing about SSB that really requires an Angel's teaching from what we've seen of it.
Thank you. Fans keep saying you need 'special training from an angel' to get Blue. When Whis fully admits that he did very little and Goku and Vegeta got stronger by basically punching each other. I know no one wants to watched the retellings, but the show told us from the jump that Whis did almost nothing for Goku and Vegeta to get their god forms outside of 'keep you energy in'.
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TheMikado wrote:Look I'm not going to say this often but these spoilers are so terrible Super deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Benefit of the doubt as in "These spoilers are so bad that there isn't anyway this could happen?" or "we should wait to see how they play out"?
People said the same thing about Freeza. "This is so bad1 Super is ruined forever!". Freeza came back and most loved it.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by ChiefWamsutta » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:13 pm

Caulifla really should not get Super Saiyan Blue ... BECAUSE there needs to be a way to expose her to God Ki or SSGod for it to work.

This could go well or poorly. If Caulifla does ask Goku to teach her how to do it, then maybe, WE as the audience, would get a better explanation of SSGod, SSBlue, God Ki, and Saiyan Beyond God.

We could learn a lot about how this transformation works if Goku is teaching her how to do it. We would learn nothing if she just gets it randomly.

Now that I write this out ... I think I would be okay if Caulifla gets SSBlue ONLY if WE, the audience, get a better explanation of SSBlue.

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Holy fuck!! I just realized that there are six Saiyans in the tournament. They could have Caulifla get SSGod and she could pull off SSBlue from SSGod. This would be interesting.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:16 pm

ChiefWamsutta wrote:Caulifla really should not get Super Saiyan Blue ... BECAUSE there needs to be a way to expose her to God Ki or SSGod for it to work.

This could go well or poorly. If Caulifla does ask Goku to teach her how to do it, then maybe, WE as the audience, would get a better explanation of SSGod, SSBlue, God Ki, and Saiyan Beyond God.

We could learn a lot about how this transformation works if Goku is teaching her how to do it. We would learn nothing if she just gets it randomly.

Now that I write this out ... I think I would be okay if Caulifla gets SSBlue ONLY if WE, the audience, get a better explanation of SSBlue.

EDIT:
Holy fuck!! I just realized that there are six Saiyans in the tournament. They could have Caulifla get SSGod and she could pull off SSBlue from SSGod. This would be interesting.
It's only a fan theory that someone needs to be exposed to God Ki to get Blue.

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Post by ChiefWamsutta » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:21 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
ChiefWamsutta wrote:Caulifla really should not get Super Saiyan Blue ... BECAUSE there needs to be a way to expose her to God Ki or SSGod for it to work.

This could go well or poorly. If Caulifla does ask Goku to teach her how to do it, then maybe, WE as the audience, would get a better explanation of SSGod, SSBlue, God Ki, and Saiyan Beyond God.

We could learn a lot about how this transformation works if Goku is teaching her how to do it. We would learn nothing if she just gets it randomly.

Now that I write this out ... I think I would be okay if Caulifla gets SSBlue ONLY if WE, the audience, get a better explanation of SSBlue.

EDIT:
Holy fuck!! I just realized that there are six Saiyans in the tournament. They could have Caulifla get SSGod and she could pull off SSBlue from SSGod. This would be interesting.
It's only a fan theory that someone needs to be exposed to God Ki to get Blue.
Haha, yeah, I was just writing words down. You have to obviously become a Super Saiyan God then merge it with your body then you can become Blue. Vegeta just became a SSGod without using five other Saiyans; he still became an SSGod, merged it, and then got blue.
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Post by precita » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:22 pm

If Piccolo loses second before Roshi/Tenshinhan do, that's it, I give up. Why bother to bring back the older cast and not do anything with them?

The way the characters are being handled in the tournament is bizarre, all this false hype, it feels the same thing they did with Fat Buu only to have him not participate. Now it's happening to everyone else. If things continue on this course it really will be the last straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of people.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:34 pm

precita wrote:If Piccolo loses second before Roshi/Tenshinhan do, that's it, I give up. Why bother to bring back the older cast and not do anything with them?

The way the characters are being handled in the tournament is bizarre, all this false hype, it feels the same thing they did with Fat Buu only to have him not participate. Now it's happening to everyone else. If things continue on this course it really will be the last straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of people.
lmao, you keep saying something is the last straw that will break the camel's back.

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Post by RedHeat » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:37 pm

This will be thee final metaphorical straw that will gravely fracture the vertebra of the dessert dwelling, metaphorical camel.
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Post by SaiyanGod117 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:37 pm

HeroR wrote:
Thank you. Fans keep saying you need 'special training from an angel' to get Blue. When Whis fully admits that he did very little and Goku and Vegeta got stronger by basically punching each other. I know no one wants to watched the retellings, but the show told us from the jump that Whis did almost nothing for Goku and Vegeta to get their god forms outside of 'keep you energy in'.
Wrong on so many levels, either way no matter how you splice it, the writing is shit. Really shit isn't even the word. If Caulifa goes SSB I will be pretty much done with Super, I can catch the fights on YouTube.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:41 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote: Wrong on so many levels, either way no matter how you splice it, the writing is shit. Really shit isn't even the word. If Caulifa goes SSB I will be pretty much done with Super, I can catch the fights on YouTube.
"The writing for this episode I haven't seen and only have a few sentences vaguely describing it is shit."

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Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:45 pm

I just noticed the ED had Cauli's eyelashes disappear... Jesus she looks horrible without them, literally Cabba with wild hair and boobs, goddammit Yamamuro.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:46 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:I just noticed the ED ha Cauli's eyelashes disappear... Jesus she looks horrible without them, literally Cabba with wild hair and boobs, goddammit Yamamuro.
He outright didn't give her the right eyes.
When you have to draw a ton of characters some mistakes will be made.

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Post by MagmonKai » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:51 pm

ChiefWamsutta wrote:
EDIT:
Holy fuck!! I just realized that there are six Saiyans in the tournament. They could have Caulifla get SSGod and she could pull off SSBlue from SSGod. This would be interesting.
You really think Jiren is gonna sit around while the Saiyans stand singing kumbayah holding hands in a circle jerk? Fuck no, quit dreaming. No body is getting a new transformation this arc except Goku because he's the MC.

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Post by HeroR » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:52 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Thank you. Fans keep saying you need 'special training from an angel' to get Blue. When Whis fully admits that he did very little and Goku and Vegeta got stronger by basically punching each other. I know no one wants to watched the retellings, but the show told us from the jump that Whis did almost nothing for Goku and Vegeta to get their god forms outside of 'keep you energy in'.
Wrong on so many levels, either way no matter how you splice it, the writing is shit. Really shit isn't even the word. If Caulifa goes SSB I will be pretty much done with Super, I can catch the fights on YouTube.
Whis' training wasn't special and he admitted to such when he said Goku and Vegeta got more out of sparring each other than training with him. What did Whis do for Goku and Vegeta that they couldn't do on Earth?
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by HeroR » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:54 pm

ChiefWamsutta wrote: Haha, yeah, I was just writing words down. You have to obviously become a Super Saiyan God then merge it with your body then you can become Blue. Vegeta just became a SSGod without using five other Saiyans; he still became an SSGod, merged it, and then got blue.
Vegeta never became a Super Saiyan God in the anime of Super. He just merged god ki with his Super Saiyan form.
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precita wrote:If Piccolo loses second before Roshi/Tenshinhan do, that's it, I give up. Why bother to bring back the older cast and not do anything with them?

The way the characters are being handled in the tournament is bizarre, all this false hype, it feels the same thing they did with Fat Buu only to have him not participate. Now it's happening to everyone else. If things continue on this course it really will be the last straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of people.
lmao, you keep saying something is the last straw that will break the camel's back.

It's their catch phase. After over two years, Super is so fragile of a series that anything can break it.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Big Black Sayian » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:55 pm

Honestly I don't think Caulifla is getting SSB. The spoilers don't even mentioned she accomplished it. Some folks really re-read that part. Lol

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Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:55 pm

MagmonKai wrote:
ChiefWamsutta wrote:
EDIT:
Holy fuck!! I just realized that there are six Saiyans in the tournament. They could have Caulifla get SSGod and she could pull off SSBlue from SSGod. This would be interesting.
You really think Jiren is gonna sit around while the Saiyans stand singing kumbayah holding hands in a circle jerk? Fuck no, quit dreaming. No body is getting a new transformation this arc except Goku because he's the MC.
Well he has just been standing around for a while now just looking at players left and right. Dont get me wrong its not like I'm with what Chief is saying.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:05 am

SansrivaaL wrote: Well he has just been standing around for a while now just looking at players left and right. Dont get me wrong its not like I'm with what Chief is saying.
Yeah, it was said that that is "his style", so he probably just waits for anyone to come at him before starting a fight, when he takes out Kale it'll probably be because she goes after him.

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