"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[perucho1990]

I think Jiren will toss out Kale because after witnessing what happens to the Universe that is eliminated, it wouldnt make sense for him, the so called warrior of Justice to not take advantage of the situation and toss out an unconscious fighter in order to win the ToP AND save his Universe.

Caulifla will need a powerup if she somehow makes it to the final 10, which all the Top Dogs will be fighting.

[ChiefWamsutta]

EDIT:
Holy fuck!! I just realized that there are six Saiyans in the tournament. They could have Caulifla get SSGod and she could pull off SSBlue from SSGod. This would be interesting.

You really think Jiren is gonna sit around while the Saiyans stand singing kumbayah holding hands in a circle jerk? Fuck no, quit dreaming. No body is getting a new transformation this arc except Goku because he's the MC.

Ease up, man. I am just throwing out ideas for how Caulifla could get SSBlue IF it were to happen. This depends on what Goku says to her.

Well he has just been standing around for a while now just looking at players left and right. Dont get me wrong its not like I'm with what Chief is saying.

Look, man. I am just trying to suggest how she could even get SSBlue. It is better than her clicking her heels together three times and turning blue.

[ArchedThunder]

I think Jiren will toss out Kale because after witnessing what happens to the Universe that is eliminated, it wouldnt make sense for him, the so called warrior of Justice to not take advantage of the situation and toss out an unconscious fighter in order to win the ToP AND save his Universe.

Caulifla will need a powerup if she somehow makes it to the final 10, which all the Top Dogs will be fighting.

I don't think so, I think we're still going to see the thinner Kale transformation.

[SaiyanGod117]

Wrong on so many levels, either way no matter how you splice it, the writing is shit. Really shit isn't even the word. If Caulifa goes SSB I will be pretty much done with Super, I can catch the fights on YouTube.

"The writing for this episode I haven't seen and only have a few sentences vaguely describing it is shit."

Well I have (tons of people) who aren't at all welcoming of it and shit is synonymous to bad, I'm pretty sure you heard people calling Caulifa going SSB to be bad writing. Besides people's opinions shouldn't warp what you think of something unless of course it's objectively or subjectively sound and reasonable, unfortunately this isn't of one of those times the writing is poor.

Thank you. Fans keep saying you need 'special training from an angel' to get Blue. When Whis fully admits that he did very little and Goku and Vegeta got stronger by basically punching each other. I know no one wants to watched the retellings, but the show told us from the jump that Whis did almost nothing for Goku and Vegeta to get their god forms outside of 'keep you energy in'.

Wrong on so many levels, either way no matter how you splice it, the writing is shit. Really shit isn't even the word. If Caulifa goes SSB I will be pretty much done with Super, I can catch the fights on YouTube.

Whis' training wasn't special and he admitted to such when he said Goku and Vegeta got more out of sparring each other than training with him. What did Whis do for Goku and Vegeta that they couldn't do on Earth?

They still needed to extensively train with him and be supervised by him for them to efficiently control God Ki. Not only that but that dimension Whis sent Goku and Vegeta to was to significantly speed up the progress on their training.

[Totamo]

She is not going to get it, it just says she wants to learn it.


People are overreacting, just like with black, just like with Freeza's return.


Super has been unpredictable and we do not know what will happen.


If it does happen, I will officially drop super as well because we never even saw Goku and Vegeta get these forms.


Now if they gave her rage, I wouldn't care.

[SansrivaaL]

One weird thing that slipped my mind when the leaks came out... anyone else found it weird that the leaks said Cauli AND Kale asked what SSJB is and wanted Goku to teach them? I mean Cauli yeah I can understand... but Kale? I didnt really take her as a character who would be interested in it unless she has a thing for blue hair.

Yeah, it was said that that is "his style", so he probably just waits for anyone to come at him before starting a fight, when he takes out Kale it'll probably be because she goes after him.

Indeed, she does go "berserk" after all, tho the summary kinda implies she gets jealous of Goku because of him and Cauli having a normal moment that in her mind is something to be jealous about (she gets ticked off at the weirdest smallest things.) so I'm surprised she goes for others instead of just "Kakarotto!!! you're first!" then again maybe she accidentaly bumps Jiren on the way and bam.

Look, man. I am just trying to suggest how she could even get SSBlue. It is better than her clicking her heels together three times and turning blue.

Hey no offense mate, I know you were just throwing ideas as well, its just that.... I'm not with you.

Now if they gave her rage, I wouldn't care.

Yeah for some reason I wouldnt mind her getting Rage as well, I dont know maybe its because it lacks explanation besides "RAGE" so I want them to get into it if possible. Have Cauli rage because Goku wont/cant teach her properly.

[ChiefWamsutta]

Look, man. I am just trying to suggest how she could even get SSBlue. It is better than her clicking her heels together three times and turning blue.

Hey no offense mate, I know you were just throwing ideas as well, its just that.... I'm not with you.

Not with me how? I really am not advocating for anything to happen, just that the needs to make an SSGod for Caulifla or even Gohan are there.

[SansrivaaL]

Look, man. I am just trying to suggest how she could even get SSBlue. It is better than her clicking her heels together three times and turning blue.

Hey no offense mate, I know you were just throwing ideas as well, its just that.... I'm not with you.

Not with me how? I really am not advocating for anything to happen, just that the needs to make an SSGod for Caulifla or even Gohan are there.

Simple, Goku aside WHY THE HELL would Vegeta and Gohan go along with it when their lives and loved ones at home are at stake? it makes 0 freaking sense.

[TekTheNinja]

People are overreacting, just like with black, just like with Freeza's return

We I was never angry about Goku Black and while I hated Freeza returning when it was announced, I STILL hate him being here, so I'd say I trust my gut feeling at this point.

[Nero<>Akira]

Everyone calm down. The spoilers for the episode after the one where Krillin gets disqualified says that Kale goes berserk and mows down enemies. There is no mention at all that Goku even teaches them anything. Jiren also defeats Kale in the tournament LOL so guys. calm down. no Caulifla SSB.

[Nero<>Akira]

Don't mean to double post but it does seem that Krillin will more than likely kill his opponent(s) seeing as he launches 3 Kienzans.

[sintzu]

As long as my boy Vegeta goes out like a gangster, then I'm good. Preferably not to someone that resembles sailor moon or a teletubbie

You've got nothing to worry about my friend, Vegeta will go out in style against a respectable enemy.

It looks like some people are having meltdowns over characters being eliminated, myself included. I wonder if this will continue to happen when we get to the summaries that say Vegeta/Piccolo/17/18/Freeza, etc. all go down too.

Vegeta and Freeza will be the last 2 before Goku to go so I doubt anyone will be upset about that.

Just look at the amount of people upset after reading the spoilers.

This has been going on since Toriyama came back, if this happens I'll drop it, if that happens I'll drop it. Yet they're all still here 5 years later.

[Jigurashi]

So I know DB Heroes shouldn't be taken for 100%, but hasn't it spoiled some things that ended up happening in Super? The recent one depicts GF fighting Jiren. Even without this, I felt like there was a decent chance of Freeza fighting Jiren. I think it'd be pretty cool if it did happen.

[shadowmaria]

Don't mean to double post but it does seem that Krillin will more than likely kill his opponent(s) seeing as he launches 3 Kienzans.

Krillin killing using a technique that has never killed anybody before Frieza used his own variant, and even then, he was maimed, and actually killing someone in this tournament would be brilliant

The other universe's already hate Universe 7, this will only drive the drama of it.

Besides, he's not even getting eliminated as a result of being thrown off the edge, so it makes him look strong.

I don't mind it. I actually like it

A lot

Also, Kale getting rekt by Jiren will only show off Jiren's strength, especially when compared to Kale's rampage.

I wonder if Kale will get the transformation shown in V-JUMP? Was that perhaps a controlled version of the Berserker state?

I think Caulifla will try Blue, and unlock SS3 instead. The rage will be great. Someone up-thread pointed out that Cabba is one of the most elite Saiyan's of Planet Sadal, and Caulifla (from memory of subs) is stronger than him. Cabba was able to go toe-to-toe with base and Super Saiyan Vegeta in the Hakaishin Invitational, I have no issue with the Saiyan's from Universe 6 having hax easier means of transforming, considering how strong they already are.

I haven't seen the most recent DB Heroes thing, but you're right - it has had a history of spoiling things. For example, Super Saiyan in ResF costumes and the Babari

[Kanassa]

I haven't seen the most recent DB Heroes thing, but you're right - it has had a history of spoiling things. For example, Super Saiyan in ResF costumes and the Babari

And Zamasu's role in the black arc and Frieza's recruitment. Heroes has either spoiled or foreshadowed arcs.

[Jigurashi]

I haven't seen the most recent DB Heroes thing, but you're right - it has had a history of spoiling things. For example, Super Saiyan in ResF costumes and the Babari

And Zamasu's role in the black arc and Frieza's recruitment. Heroes has either spoiled or foreshadowed arcs.

This is why I've been wondering cause a new trailer legit features Goku and GF having a standoff with Jiren and Freeza attacks him.

[ChiefWamsutta]

Hey no offense mate, I know you were just throwing ideas as well, its just that.... I'm not with you.

Not with me how? I really am not advocating for anything to happen, just that the needs to make an SSGod for Caulifla or even Gohan are there.

Simple, Goku aside WHY THE HELL would Vegeta and Gohan go along with it when their lives and loved ones at home are at stake? it makes 0 freaking sense.

Haha, crazier things have happened in Dragon Ball.

Aside from that, you're getting a little too intense, dude. Let's just call it here.

[shadowmaria]

I haven't seen the most recent DB Heroes thing, but you're right - it has had a history of spoiling things. For example, Super Saiyan in ResF costumes and the Babari

And Zamasu's role in the black arc and Frieza's recruitment. Heroes has either spoiled or foreshadowed arcs.

Just watched it.

Does it possibly also hint that the Tournament comes down to Jiren vs Goku and Golden Frieza?

[precita]

So with Krillin out by episode 100, that means he only has episodes 98 and 99 to actually do anything. And from the looks of the preview of next weeks it's mostly Goku centered.

So...we get less than an episode to see Krillin hopefully have a shining moment before being disqualified? Lame.

[TysonWine]

I haven't seen the most recent DB Heroes thing, but you're right - it has had a history of spoiling things. For example, Super Saiyan in ResF costumes and the Babari

And Zamasu's role in the black arc and Frieza's recruitment. Heroes has either spoiled or foreshadowed arcs.

Just watched it.

Does it possibly also hint that the Tournament comes down to Jiren vs Goku and Golden Frieza?

Just watched it. It looks like they fight him one on one. Goku is in base with his hands on his side as he watches Frieza attack Jiren in Golden form. Then Frieza is nowhere to be seen (defeated) when SSB Goku attacks Jiren. You guys would know better than me if this means anything, because I'm not to familiar with DB Heroes and if it usually has spoilers for the show. Jiren, Goku, and Frieza as the final three wouldn't be unexpected though.