"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Totamo]

I am not a fan of her getting SSB , it might sound good to some on paper, but there isn't a single easy way for it to happen without training for a considerable longer amount of time than under a few minutes when everyone is trying to ring out everyone at that point in time..

This would need careful buildup if they wanted for it to happen, we got no such buildup..
On top of that I am plenty sure they won't show us her getting blue in the tournament, my experience with Dragonball has taught me that much

Both Trunks and Gohan reached Blue level after just hours of training but they have the excuse of being hybrids (imo thats the reason Toriyama is excluding both Kid Trunks and Goten because they would become very OP if they train with the Goku/Vegeta/Piccolo).

Caulifla was hyped to be a prodigy with a potential beyond Rensos, I know it wouldve helped if we ever saw Renso fight(in a flashback at least).

I mentioned that she got SSJ2 offscreen, which was why Cabba didnt seem surprised when she transformed to save him from Kale.

I think the whole stamina issue, which was mentioned by Cabba in episode 92 will come into play for Caulifla(if she gets Blue).

Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.

I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.

Because I guarantee you, Gohan will be this strong in the manga with no explanation.

[MisteryOne]

Both Trunks and Gohan reached Blue level after just hours of training but they have the excuse of being hybrids (imo thats the reason Toriyama is excluding both Kid Trunks and Goten because they would become very OP if they train with the Goku/Vegeta/Piccolo).

Caulifla was hyped to be a prodigy with a potential beyond Rensos, I know it wouldve helped if we ever saw Renso fight(in a flashback at least).

I mentioned that she got SSJ2 offscreen, which was why Cabba didnt seem surprised when she transformed to save him from Kale.

I think the whole stamina issue, which was mentioned by Cabba in episode 92 will come into play for Caulifla(if she gets Blue).

Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.

I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.

Because I guarantee you, Gohan will be this strong in the manga with no explanation.

How so? The manga has explained everything the anime didn't even bothered to. Why would it be different this time?

[Whatever]

Never or at the least not in this arc for sure because Gohan has not said anything about getting a new transformation,all he said is he is gonna be strong in his ultimate form

Mostly implies that Gohan wants reach a level beyond Mystic(Goku asked him why didnt he turn SSJ). If he unlocks it due to clashing with Goku it would make sense, because thats how Trunks got SSJ Ikari(clashing with Vegeta).

[spoiler][/spoiler]
Right after that Gohan says he will not go the same way as goku if he was talking about transformations then he would be contradicting himself,so no transformation just him being strong in his ultimate form.
Trunks did not get SSJ Ikari from clashing with vegeta,nothing like that was said or implied so i don't know where you got that from.
Nothing has been said or implied of gohan getting a form from clashing with goku either and if he was getting a new form it would be advertised in some way or form just like goku's new form and he is for sure is not getting a new form in the same arc as goku.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The only way I can see a disqualification being reversed is if it turns out the guy wasn't actually dead (faked it, or something), and Kuririn isn't so powerful that him being kicked out then re-entering the fight would be a huge turning point for U7. It's possible but it doesn't seem likely.

Right the only other scenario would be like how it was in the U6 arc where Goku got KO'd before being let back in as it was known Frost was cheating. Krillin isn't a main player here. For the all the world I was worried they were gonna do that last week with Nink and Goku I was kept praying don't be a repeat of U6 arc lol.

[DBZ Macky]

Mostly implies that Gohan wants reach a level beyond Mystic(Goku asked him why didnt he turn SSJ). If he unlocks it due to clashing with Goku it would make sense, because thats how Trunks got SSJ Ikari(clashing with Vegeta).

[spoiler][/spoiler]
Right after that Gohan says he will not go the same way as goku if he was talking about transformations then he would be contradicting himself,so no transformation just him being strong in his ultimate form.
Trunks did not get SSJ Ikari from clashing with vegeta,nothing like that was said or implied so i don't know where you got that from.
Nothing has been said or implied of gohan getting a form from clashing with goku either and if he was getting a new form it would be advertised in some way or form just like goku's new form and he is for sure is not getting a new form in the same arc as goku.

Gohan had improved enough to fight SSB Goku before he went Kaio-Ken, just like how SS2 Trunks had improved enough to fight SSR Black for a while too. There's a lot of similarities between Gohan and Trunks's situation, so Gohan attaining something similar to SS Rage is very likely. If Trunks had improved his SS2 form and got SS Rage, so I guess Gohan will improve his Ultimate form to get "Ultimate Rage" or something, I guess?

P.S. you guys might want to edit that screenshot before a moderator removes it.

[Lord Frieza]

I wonder how things would go in the event of a tie?

Everyone else is knocked off and Limit Broken Goku and Jiren knock each other out.

[Ki Breaker]

I wonder how things would go in the event of a tie?

Everyone else is knocked off and Limit Broken Goku and Jiren knock each other out.

The one who is knocked out of the stage last wins, if they fall at the exact same time, they fight again..
At least that's the scenario that makes most sense

[Whatever]

Mostly implies that Gohan wants reach a level beyond Mystic(Goku asked him why didnt he turn SSJ). If he unlocks it due to clashing with Goku it would make sense, because thats how Trunks got SSJ Ikari(clashing with Vegeta).

[spoiler][/spoiler]
Right after that Gohan says he will not go the same way as goku if he was talking about transformations then he would be contradicting himself,so no transformation just him being strong in his ultimate form.
Trunks did not get SSJ Ikari from clashing with vegeta,nothing like that was said or implied so i don't know where you got that from.
Nothing has been said or implied of gohan getting a form from clashing with goku either and if he was getting a new form it would be advertised in some way or form just like goku's new form and he is for sure is not getting a new form in the same arc as goku.

Gohan had improved enough to fight SSB Goku before he went Kaio-Ken, just like how SS2 Trunks had improved enough to fight SSR Black for a while too. There's a lot of similarities between Gohan and Trunks's situation, so Gohan attaining something similar to SS Rage is very likely. If Trunks had improved his SS2 form and got SS Rage, so I guess Gohan will improve his Ultimate form to get "Ultimate Rage" or something, I guess?

P.S. you guys might want to edit that screenshot before a moderator removes it.

Done,also there is a big difference between Gohan and Trunk's situation,with Trunks it was his arc so of course he was the driving force of the arc and got plenty of time to shine and got a new form.
This is Goku's arc,not Gohan's,so far most of the focus is on him so he is the one getting a new form of course.

[Totamo]

Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.

I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.

Because I guarantee you, Gohan will be this strong in the manga with no explanation.

How so? The manga has explained everything the anime didn't even bothered to. Why would it be different this time?

Because if you really think these 20 episodes are going to be in that manga, then we haven't been watching and reading the same series.

[Akyon]

I wonder how things would go in the event of a tie?

Everyone else is knocked off and Limit Broken Goku and Jiren knock each other out.

I've been thinking similar too. What if Goku, Hit and Jiren all remain as the last standing fighters and there's a three way tie at the end of the time limit?

[MisteryOne]

Because I guarantee you, Gohan will be this strong in the manga with no explanation.

How so? The manga has explained everything the anime didn't even bothered to. Why would it be different this time?

Because if you really think these 20 episodes are going to be in that manga, then we haven't been watching and reading the same series.

Of course they won't. Most of them were completely useless. Now, explain to me why Gohan will be as strong as in the anime, and why we would not get an explanation in that case when the anime has not even given us an actual explanation on that 20 episodes.

[precita]

Of course they won't. Most of them were completely useless. Now, explain to me why Gohan will be as strong as in the anime, and why we would not get an explanation in that case when the anime has not even given us an actual explanation on that 20 episodes.

20 episodes? Since when did the recruitment arc last 20 episodes?

You guys do realize it was 10 episodes, right?

- Krillin's ep
- Buu's ep
- 17 ep
- Second 17 ep
- Tien/Roshi
- Gohan/Piccolo
- Gohan/Goku
- Fat Buu is sleeping/everyone in crisis/thinking of a 10th member
- Freeza's first episode
- Second Freeza episode

The eps where they're actually heading toward the tournament or the exhibition episodes don't count as part of those eps.

[MisteryOne]

Of course they won't. Most of them were completely useless. Now, explain to me why Gohan will be as strong as in the anime, and why we would not get an explanation in that case when the anime has not even given us an actual explanation on that 20 episodes.

20 episodes? Since when did the recruitment arc last 20 episodes?

You guys do realize it was 10 episodes, right?

- Krillin's ep
- Buu's ep
- 17 eps
- Second 17 ep
- Tien/Roshi
- Gohan/Piccolo
- Gohan/Goku
- Fat Buu is sleeping/everyone in crisis
- Freeza's first episode
- Second Freeza episode

The eps where they're actually heading toward the tournament or the exhibition episodes don't count as part of those eps.

There were a hell lot more of "filler" episodes before the start of the US arc. And any of them will be in the manga, and I honestly prefer it that way, since only the Hit ones were interesting for me. Also, how do you know the exibition doesn't count? Do you know that they will be in the manga?

[precita]

There were a hell lot more of "filler" episodes before the start of the US arc. And any of them will be in the manga, and I honestly prefer it that way, since only the Hit ones were interesting for me.

Well those eps didn't have anything to do with this arc. They were slice of life or funny episodes. I don't know why you're including them with this.

Yamcha's baseball episode, the Gohan Saiyaman episodes, the Arale ep, and the Krillin eps were all good, but not part of this arc. They all came before the first episode the tournament was brought up.

[Basako]

Because I guarantee you, Gohan will be this strong in the manga with no explanation.

For start, we don't know how weak got Gohan in the manga. Last time he appeared was in Bulma's ship and the RoF was skipped. It's safe to assume he got weaker, but probably not as much as in the anime, they overdid that there.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Of course they won't. Most of them were completely useless. Now, explain to me why Gohan will be as strong as in the anime, and why we would not get an explanation in that case when the anime has not even given us an actual explanation on that 20 episodes.

20 episodes? Since when did the recruitment arc last 20 episodes?

You guys do realize it was 10 episodes, right?

- Krillin's ep
- Buu's ep
- 17 eps
- Second 17 ep
- Tien/Roshi
- Gohan/Piccolo
- Gohan/Goku
- Fat Buu is sleeping/everyone in crisis
- Freeza's first episode
- Second Freeza episode

The eps where they're actually heading toward the tournament or the exhibition episodes don't count as part of those eps.

There were a hell lot more of "filler" episodes before the start of the US arc. And any of them will be in the manga, and I honestly prefer it that way, since only the Hit ones were interesting for me. Also, how do you know the exibition doesn't count? Do you know that they will be in the manga?

And?

There were a lot of stupid Great Saiyaman eposodes before the Buu arc that werent in the manga exactly. What is your point?

[Lord Frieza]

I've been thinking similar too. What if Goku, Hit and Jiren all remain as the last standing fighters and there's a three way tie at the end of the time limit?

The one who is knocked out of the stage last wins, if they fall at the exact same time, they fight again..
At least that's the scenario that makes most sense

Well I did have an out their idea.

Lets say that Goku and Jiren knock themselves out, times up and they are the only fighters on the platform.

Instead of a rematch, which would be a bit pointless......why not let the deciding battle be between their Gods of Destruction? Beerus vs Belmod!

This would be good in a number of ways. With all the GoD in the tournament getting killed off for good (as it appears so far), it would be a real shame for all of them to go without the chance to show of their abilities. This way at least one of them, Belmod, would get a chance to fight. Also it allows Beerus, who's been a background characters since his introduction, to take center stage once more. Not only that, he must fight against someone who is truly a challenge for him and who will force him to show his full power and skill, unlike Goku or Champa (because he and Beerus's fights are more over the top, brotherly squabbles then a real battle).

[Ki Breaker]

Instead of a rematch, which would be a bit pointless......why not let the deciding battle be between their Gods of Destruction? Beerus vs Belmod!

You're on! Just remember, my team universe 7 wreaks Belmod to next week

[Ki Breaker]

I just noticed something, The aura Goku has while fighting Bergamo is exactly the aura he has while he goes Blue, minus the blue and spikes...

Might they be trying indistinguishing the god base like this now?

[GodKaio-Ken]

Let's be real here, Trunks and Gohan's jump in power are bullshit. The only way Gohans could be salvaged is if it turns out potential unlock helps you make quicker gains because you're always at your full potential.

I don't understand why super insists on these people starting off weak and then getting insanely stronger. Why couldn't the u6 saiyans already have been super Saiyan gods ? It's not like they aren't all pure hearted. Just say that u7 saiyans were always fucking around killing things and never had a chance for their civilization to develop. Why didn't they have make Trunks a SS ikari ( or start to grasp the power ) through training with Vegeta in the HTC ? Why couldn't Gohan already been in ultimate form by the universal survival tournament because of his training with Piccolo ? They could have spaced out the power jumps better.

Because I guarantee you, Gohan will be this strong in the manga with no explanation.

How so? The manga has explained everything the anime didn't even bothered to. Why would it be different this time?

What exactly has the manga explained? Toyotaro just makes crap up that makes no sense because hes a shit writer.