Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[Super Sonic]

Not going to lie, although I love that Sean said Son Goku; if his last name is Son, then should he say Goku Son?

Common style is to flip the names of contemporary Japanese people, and keeping the original order for historical individuals and historically literary character. Also, the style for Chinese names is to keep the original name order. "Son Gokuu" is the Japanese name/prononciation of historically literary character Sun Wukong, so his name order should be kept.

That's pretty much how Viz does names in their manga.

Mr. Daimao is that Mighty Orbots in your avatar?

[penguintruth]

According to Nicktoons' schedule, there are no new episodes of Kai this week.

[Innagadadavida]

I noticed that. I was kind of bummed too. I wonder when it will pick back up. I wonder if they'll go right into the Android saga.

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

I'm sure there will be a break before the Androids arc, but the way they were pimping the Hell out of new Kai episodes, I kinda figured they'd keep going on until the end of the Freeza arc. Maybe they're just taking a break this week, because they had the marathon over the weekend, and we'll pick up again next week?

[AoiKageNoChikara]

Sean was epic definitely better performance than his Z Voice acting! I even got the chills what a shame there's no episode this week

[ShadowDude112]

I liked the episode. But I still noticed that Freeza said he could "breathe" in space. Now, it's small but you can't breathe in space. You can "survive" in space but not "breathe". Other than that this dub is fantastic.

[Cootie]

I liked the episode. But I still noticed that Freeza said he could "breathe" in space. Now, it's small but you can't breathe in space. You can "survive" in space but not "breathe". Other than that this dub is fantastic.

Since Freeza need to breathe I always wondered why he even had a nose. Or blood for that matter.

[penguintruth]

He probably suspends himself in a ki bubble or something to survive in space.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

He probably suspends himself in a ki bubble or something to survive in space.

If Freeza can, why Goku can't?

[Mewzard]

The fact that Freeza breathes at all, yet survives in space with his injuries leads me to believe that his kind must need very little of whatever they do breathe to survive AND that, for some reason, they have the lung strength to suck molecules out of a universe-sized vacuum...or the barrier option. Neither is appealing, given his condition, but unless we assume he can, perhaps, limit his breathing for extended time, it seems like our only options.

[penguintruth]

He probably suspends himself in a ki bubble or something to survive in space.

If Freeza can, why Goku can't?

Freeza doesn't know that Goku has already survived in space, putting that rabbit guy there.

[TheMajinRedComet]

If only Goku could remember his comic relief powers from dragonball he could survive anything.

[Daimao]

Mr. Daimao is that Mighty Orbots in your avatar?

Indeed it is. Well recognized.

[Attitudefan]

People always argue that saiyans can breath in space. Goku went to the moon and survived but so did the humans and the rabit, but that was before it was serious. Bardock did but that wasn't written by Toriyama so that doesn't really count.

[Piccolo Daimao]

People always argue that saiyans can breath in space. Goku went to the moon and survived but so did the humans and the rabit, but that was before it was serious. Bardock did but that wasn't written by Toriyama so that doesn't really count.

Toriyama actually included a panel of Bardock in space (mirroring his final stand against Freeza in the TV Special) in the manga, so it does count. And it makes it canon too (Bardock surviving in space, I mean). Goku taking the rabbits up to the moon is just a gag scene, so it doesn't count. Bardock being in space in his final stand against Freeza was for dramatic effect. But Freeza said Goku can't breathe in space, and Goku believed him (and why shouldn't he?). Saiyans can't survive in space.

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

We can't say 100% 'no they can't survive in space'. All we know is that Freeza told Gokou if the planet exploded, 'hey dude, I dunno about you, but I can survive in space, joke's on you'. Gokou doesn't know daddy had a final stand against Freeza in space. He grew up on Earth with humans, and makes the pretty logical assumption that 'oh shit, if the planet explodes, I won't be able to breathe anymore'. How would Gokou know one way or the other? Better safe than sorry.

Inb4 'filler', but wasn't there also a scene in the Anime when Vegeta is explaining when he went SSJ for the first time where he was in space? Or am I remembering that wrong?

[Flamingwindjutsu]

I'm pretty sure he was training on a desolate planet when he hit super saiyan.

[Piccolo Daimao]

We can't say 100% 'no they can't survive in space'. All we know is that Freeza told Goku if the planet exploded, 'hey dude, I dunno about you, but I can survive in space, joke's on you'. Goku doesn't know daddy had a final stand against Freeza in space. He grew up on Earth with humans, and makes the pretty logical assumption that 'oh shit, if the planet explodes, I won't be able to breathe anymore'. How would Goku know one way or the other? Better safe than sorry.

But then, why would Freeza tell Goku that he couldn't survive in space (and relish at that fact), if he knows that they actually can? He saw Bardock surviving in space and has no reason to assume that Goku would be any different.

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

But then, why would Freeza tell Goku that he couldn't survive in space (and even relish at that fact), if he knows that they actually can?

He kinda wants the guy dead. Why not bluff? If Gokou doesn't respond with 'haha, joke's on you, I know Saiyajin can also survive in space!!', then he's probably golden.

Alternatively - surviving in space might not be something you're born with/is inherent to any particular race, but a trained skill just like flying and all that other shit people do in Dragonball. They haven't exactly known each other very long, but Freeza knows that this guy is the 4th surviving Saiyajin who was on Earth, and hasn't been flying around as a space pirate working under him for all these years. Maybe he's just making a general assumption that Gokou never had the training to be able to survive in space as a result?

[Cootie]

People always argue that saiyans can breath in space. Goku went to the moon and survived but so did the humans and the rabit, but that was before it was serious. Bardock did but that wasn't written by Toriyama so that doesn't really count.

Toriyama actually included a panel of Bardock in space (mirroring his final stand against Freeza in the TV Special) in the manga, so it does count. And it makes it canon too (Bardock surviving in space, I mean). Goku taking the rabbits up to the moon is just a gag scene, so it doesn't count. Bardock being in space in his final stand against Freeza was for dramatic effect. But Freeza said Goku can't breathe in space, and Goku believed him (and why shouldn't he?). Saiyans can't survive in space.

Well, to be fair we really don't know how far the atmosphere of Planet Vegeta reaches. He could have been that far out in space while also being within the planets atmosphere. Thats what I always assumed, anyway.