Unpopular DB opinions

[rereboy]

The reasons you mentioned weren't weird, they were simply archaic and awful. Chich and Goku got married for unrealistic reasons. This was in no way normal as we aren't talking about a marriage of convenience or an arranged marriage. We're talking about two consenting adults entering into marriage because Goku mistakenly thought he was going to get food. None of your examples is even close to that.

Goku didn't marry her because he thought he was going to get food. That's a oversimplification of what happened. It misses the fact that Goku agreed to marry her after he fully understood what it meant and when he could have just refused without any consequences. What happened was that Goku realized that he had, unwillingly, made Chi-chi believe, for several years, that he would indeed marry her, and, after thinking about that, he decided to take responsibility and honor that unwilling promise. Did he do it for food? No. Did he have to? No. Did he want to? Yes. Why? Because he was feeling honor-bound to do so and take responsibility for it (plus, possibly, other reasons that we can't really know).

The "archaic but not weird" examples were perfectly relevant because they showcased feeling honor-bound as the main factor. You claim that they aren't even close and yet, we just have to replace the "killing her husband in combat" part of the example I gave and replace it with "unknowingly making a girl believe that he will marry her" and it's the same thing.

Call it unrealistic all you want, but it's essentially as realistic as any marriage that has happened due, at least in part, to people feeling honor-bound due to whatever reason. Unrealistic is simply the wrong term to apply to it. We can criticize their decisions and motives on other grounds, not its realism.

[ABED]

I already said that. I acknowledge that he now knew what she meant, but it's still not nearly what you make out to be. He's very "I might as well, I made a promise."

other reasons that we can't really know

Huh? No, we know his exact reasons. It's not nearly this deep honor bound thing you are making out to be, nor is it mysterious in any way. It's played purely for the joke.

The "archaic but not weird" examples were perfectly relevant because they showcased feeling honor-bound as the main factor.

Finally, I understand your point, but I still don't agree as it has nothing to really do with honor. Just look at how the scene is played. It's played as comedic, so no, it's not realisitic that anyone would marry someone for so flimsy a reason as "I made a promise I thought was for something else, but it's a promise nonetheless". Even in your example about taking the wife of the person you've killed, they did so for several reasons, e.g. to the victor goes the spoils, and in some way they didn't think it was a good thing to leave a woman helpless and alone without their husband. That's is a HUGE leap to "I made this promise to you under a mistaken assumption, but now that I know, I guess I still gotta, so what the hell." They are two completely different situations.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Dragon Ball started off as pure gag manga and gradually shifted into more serious tones. Did it ever lose its comedy completely? I can't recall too many funny moments from either the Saiyans arc or Androids.

The Android Arc had a good bit of comedy involving Satan, Kuririn's relationship. The Saiyan Arc's big gag was Kaio, who, at the time, was the highest god in the universe that we knew of, who also happened to be a total doofus.

[Cipher]

On topic, I like Sumitomo's Kai score. Maybe more than his Super one. It has some really great moments, and the general feel of a '90s Butoden game. Not at all unfitting for the Boo arc.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

On topic, I like Sumitomo's Kai score. Maybe more than his Super one. It has some really great moments, and the general feel of a '90s Butoden game. Not at all unfitting for the Boo arc.

I think it felt too much like a video game, it didn't usually seem to belong. It had some placement issues too, similar to the way Super did until the most recent arc.

[Nejishiki]

It's very hit or miss, but it receives far too much hate, I think. I've only viewed Sumitomo's Dragon Ball Kai once, but some compositions have stuck with me, such as what was playing in Gohan and Dabra's battle. Of course, there are the credited situations where it's unfitting to what's portrayed on screen. Either way, it's not without merit. Heck, I enjoy some of Faulconer's work, even if I think it's tonally inappropriate combined with its product. As another thread about music referenced, Menza may be the only composer who I can't find retreat with.

[Cipher]

I think it felt too much like a video game, it didn't usually seem to belong. It had some placement issues too, similar to the way Super did until the most recent arc.

I tend to think its placement is better than his work in Super, for what it's worth.

And I guess I like that it has a distinct flavor, as opposed to Super, which feels a bit all over the place.

An eight-minute clip might be stretching it, but if you get past the first few seconds of the opening track here, I think this entire scene is scored really nicely (though I'm iffy on the track that accompanies Boo's debut). It has a dated feeling, but one I think works.

[nickzambuto]

I think that if you look at most of the major fights in Dragon Ball, they will ultimately come down to some combination of skill, will power, or teamwork rather than raw power.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Just thought of a real unpopular opinion of mine.

Given that Viz chose to romanize Goku's Saiyan name as Kakkarot, Vegerot was the correct way for them to amalgamate the two names.

[Doctor.]

Just thought of a real unpopular opinion of mine.

Given that Viz chose to romanize Goku's Saiyan name as Kakkarot, Vegerot was the correct way for them to amalgamate the two names.

"Vegett".

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Just thought of a real unpopular opinion of mine.

Given that Viz chose to romanize Goku's Saiyan name as Kakkarot, Vegerot was the correct way for them to amalgamate the two names.

"Vegett".

It just seems like the first part of Vegeta's name, so that wouldn't work.

[ABED]

Or Gogeta. I know that's the name in Movie 12, but I don't see any issue with it

[dbgtFO]

"Vegerot" is a terrible name and should have been reserved for a failed fusion(Veku could have been Vegerot in the dub) rather than Vegetto.
Viz could have taken liberties and poked fun at their romanization of Kakarotto by having Vegetto mention it as a possibility, but then deciding on Vegetto.
Though there probably wouldn't be enough room in the speech bubble..

[Alruneia]

Just thought of a real unpopular opinion of mine.

Given that Viz chose to romanize Goku's Saiyan name as Kakkarot, Vegerot was the correct way for them to amalgamate the two names.

"Vegett".

Oh man. That's not funny. I don't know why it's making me laugh.

[rereboy]

Vegerot is perfectly valid. Fans don't like it simply because of the sound it makes (which is completely subjective) or because they really want it to be Vegetto and don't care how inconsistent that scheme would be in the Viz manga.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Or Gogeta. I know that's the name in Movie 12, but I don't see any issue with it

But that would just cause confusion, there's no reason to switch around names.

[ABED]

Or Gogeta. I know that's the name in Movie 12, but I don't see any issue with it

But that would just cause confusion, there's no reason to switch around names.

No, just use the same name for both. I fail to see how it's any more confusing than keeping Vegetto when the portmanteau makes no sense in the US dub.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Or Gogeta. I know that's the name in Movie 12, but I don't see any issue with it

But that would just cause confusion, there's no reason to switch around names.

No, just use the same name for both. I fail to see how it's any more confusing than keeping Vegetto when the portmanteau makes no sense in the US dub.

It's just that there's no reason to do something like that. The way they chose was a perfectly legitimate amalgamation of Vegeta and Kakkarot.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Why not something like Kakageta or Kakaget.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Why not something like Kakageta or Kakaget.

Because there's no reason to deviate so far from the source when Vegerot works phonetically, fits with the romanizations better, and is fundamentally the same amalgamation as Vegetto.