I see that there are people overly obsessed with Goku being a blue haired ssj, I wonder what happens when Goku really did just go gold ssj. I'm 99% sure its gold tho not because I want to but because of how I think Goku's still holding back, saving his stamina because he feels something off from a certain someone.
"Double-checking, it really is just "Saiyan" in Japanese. Oops..."
Even the best makes mistakes.
So if the transcription is correct, then Vados and Champa are just surprised that Saiyans can transform, which means they could be completely unaware of Cabba potentially having a Super Saiyan form or Cabba doesn't and is just an ultra strong base Saiyan like Ultimate Gohan.
"Double-checking, it really is just "Saiyan" in Japanese. Oops..."
Even the best makes mistakes.
So if the transcription is correct, then Vados and Champa are just surprised that Saiyans can transform, which means they could be completely unaware of Cabba potentially having a Super Saiyan form or Cabba doesn't and is just an ultra strong base Saiyan like Ultimate Gohan.
Or.. They Are aware of SSJ but in universe 6 it's ultra rare like it was originally supposed to be. The last one was 1000 years ago in their universe and Cabba, prince of the Saiyans is the LSSJ of their universe. Which means they will be 100x more surprised by Vegeta being not only SSJ too but also more intense than Goku.
The problem is, that nobody in universe 7 was wondering why goku used ssj instead of ssjb. Why wasn't Vegeta or Piccolo suprised: ohh can Goku still do this, what happen to ssjB?
So ssjb is not gone because they should explain why it was gone, but they did't.
So three things:
1)Goku was just ssjB but they drew it wrong.
2)Goku did use ssj and can go higher(ssjb) if needed
3) goku did use ssj so Vegeta can steal the show with ssj BLue (suprise element)
SansrivaaL wrote:I see that there are people overly obsessed with Goku being a blue haired ssj, I wonder what happens when Goku really did just go gold ssj. I'm 99% sure its gold tho not because I want to but because of how I think Goku's still holding back, saving his stamina because he feels something off from a certain someone.
Yeah I really don't get the obsession, Goku had the SSG form for literally one arc but everyone is now freaking out about not having SSB?? Plus the comments about SSJ looking weird are so bizarre after Goku and the gang have literally been rocking it for the past 20 YEARS!!
SansrivaaL wrote:I see that there are people overly obsessed with Goku being a blue haired ssj, I wonder what happens when Goku really did just go gold ssj. I'm 99% sure its gold tho not because I want to but because of how I think Goku's still holding back, saving his stamina because he feels something off from a certain someone.
Yeah I really don't get the obsession, Goku had the SSG form for literally one arc but everyone is now freaking out about not having SSB?? Plus the comments about SSJ looking weird are so bizarre after Goku and the gang have literally been rocking it for the past 20 YEARS!!
The new costumes were designed with SSJB in mind, to make them visually look best with the blue hair and aura. While I like how they look in the new suits, I will openly acknowledge that the near lack blue on Goku's clothing makes the orange and gold blend way too much together. When he's SSJB, the blue hair really pops against the orange, making it seem more distinct.
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Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
SansrivaaL wrote:I see that there are people overly obsessed with Goku being a blue haired ssj, I wonder what happens when Goku really did just go gold ssj. I'm 99% sure its gold tho not because I want to but because of how I think Goku's still holding back, saving his stamina because he feels something off from a certain someone.
Yeah I really don't get the obsession, Goku had the SSG form for literally one arc but everyone is now freaking out about not having SSB?? Plus the comments about SSJ looking weird are so bizarre after Goku and the gang have literally been rocking it for the past 20 YEARS!!
The new costumes were designed with SSJB in mind, to make them visually look best with the blue hair and aura. While I like how they look in the new suits, I will openly acknowledge that the near lack blue on Goku's clothing makes the orange and gold blend way too much together. When he's SSJB, the blue hair really pops against the orange, making it seem more distinct.
Yeah, the colour schemes for Goku and Vegeta's new outfits since Resurrection F were specifically designed to accommodate the SSJB transformation and help the form stick out more. I don't think everyone should be in a panic about Goku using his SSJ form as for all intents and purposes he's still has the power of a Super Saiyan God retained in his base for, and the difference between Saiyan Beyond God and Super Saiyan Blue is actually quite minimal. Like at best a .5 difference. So rest assured, I don't think we have seen the last of Super Saiyan Blue.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Pannaliciour wrote:The problem is, that nobody in universe 7 was wondering why goku used ssj instead of ssjb. Why wasn't Vegeta or Piccolo suprised: ohh can Goku still do this, what happen to ssjB?
So ssjb is not gone because they should explain why it was gone, but they did't.
So three things:
1)Goku was just ssjB but they drew it wrong.
2)Goku did use ssj and can go higher(ssjb) if needed
3) goku did use ssj so Vegeta can steal the show with ssj BLue (suprise element)
Maybe their reactions were not important to put in the manga and we will get their reactions in the anime?
"Double-checking, it really is just "Saiyan" in Japanese. Oops..."
Even the best makes mistakes.
So if the transcription is correct, then Vados and Champa are just surprised that Saiyans can transform, which means they could be completely unaware of Cabba potentially having a Super Saiyan form or Cabba doesn't and is just an ultra strong base Saiyan like Ultimate Gohan.
I agree with this one.
Judging by Goku's hair bangs it's either a regular SSj or SSGSS.
Some people are stating that he can't go regular SSj anymore because his KI became godly, that is, since it stays on the inside the aura turns blue and so does their hair/brows for some reason. This does make sense although no one can be absolutely sure at this point.
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I just think it's weird. I thought the whole God Ki thing was supposed to be a way to make transformations easier. Get rid of SS2 and SS3, change up SS a bit to show it's more powerful now and you're done. Simple and effective. But now Toriyama is needlessly complicating it all if Goku can turn normal Super Saiyan again.
It's the whole Ultimate Gohan thing again with Goku isn't it? Can he or can he not go Super Saiyan now.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
FortuneSSJ wrote:-SSJ looks weird?!-
For people that think that Goku/Vegeta SSJ looks weird in their ROF outfit, its only because they got used to SSB. It's that simple.
If SSJ is now stronger than SSB we still don't know, but I doubt it. Goku is just not using God Ki yet. He said himself that is preserving energy for the next matches.
SSJ will never disappear. It will always be the most iconic form of this franchise. Even if it's not the strongest form anymore, it will always come back. Nostalgia/Money purposes.
And SSB is not a one time only thing like SSG. As long as Goku/Vegeta have God Ki, they can pull it off.
They even trained in that form in the manga, twice.
Vados saying Goku isn't a ordinary saiyan, doesn't mean much either. Because in the past being a SSJ was a rare thing, and this can still be the case in U6.
Cabba will be strong. Even the two keyframes that leaked on twitter teased it.
Xeztin wrote:
Hit acts more like a hired assassin more than a villain himself. I'm actually looking for him to ruin the tournament by trying to kill someone. It would be quite the plot twist if he was hired to kill Champa. Hit=Hitman? His race might be a bunch of special assassins since the Saiyans are warriors. Heck Monaka might have hired him to kill Beerus.
From this month V-Jump cover I got vibes that Monaka and Hit will be connected in some way. And I really love everything about your theory. What a twist!
Good job!
Oh god Mike blew a hole in a elephants ass with that one Anyways back on topic, thanks! And It would be cool of Hit was undercover for universe 6's galatic patrol to stop this battle that might break out between the gods and destroy both universes. He also could be hired by whoever gives the gods their jobs to prevent anything like that from happening.
dbzfan7 wrote:It's the whole Ultimate Gohan thing again with Goku isn't it? Can he or can he not go Super Saiyan now.
Yes it is but x100 since its Goku AND Vegeta. I can't wait to find out what happens. The meltdowns of SSB being done away with will surpass the kaioken while SSJ arguments.
SansrivaaL wrote:I see that there are people overly obsessed with Goku being a blue haired ssj, I wonder what happens when Goku really did just go gold ssj. I'm 99% sure its gold tho not because I want to but because of how I think Goku's still holding back, saving his stamina because he feels something off from a certain someone.
Yeah I really don't get the obsession, Goku had the SSG form for literally one arc but everyone is now freaking out about not having SSB?? Plus the comments about SSJ looking weird are so bizarre after Goku and the gang have literally been rocking it for the past 20 YEARS!!
You don't seem to understand the difference between the two here.. SSJ God has been introduced as a "One Time Transformation". It was never meant to be a permanent transformation. It was revealed to have a time limit. The moment it was introduced. (In order to absorb it's power and make it your own) since Akira Toriyama wants to get back to the basics. (Base and SSJ) as stated in an interview.
Unlike SSGSS which is a permanent form. Able to be accessed at any given time. It really is the perfect form. Since it's just using Super Saiyan to tap into your Godly Ki. It's meant to be the perfect form to use for the rest of your life.
GodVegetto91 wrote:
Unlike SSGSS which is a permanent form. Able to be accessed at any given time. It really is the perfect form. Since it's just using Super Saiyan to tap into your Godly Ki. It's meant to be the perfect form to use for the rest of your life.
And why should Goku use his strongest form against Frost already?!
Not everyone is worthy for him to become SSB.
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DI297 wrote:the rules dont say anything about the admin being a lady that think everything is offensive and dont let ppl defend themselves before jumping to give "warnings", is this north korea mixed with tumblr or a db forum?
2) You're right on one front. He's being a jerk, true, HOWEVER
3) Does he really need to explain why he thinks the dude has low standards? Maybe he does, it's not like he cursed him out or something. That said, his further comments are grounds for you getting after him, I get it. The edited rules are hilarious, but his initial comment ain't that bad, is it?
Anyways back on topic, thanks! And It would be cool of Hit was undercover for universe 6's galatic patrol to stop this battle that might break out between the gods and destroy both universes. He also could be hired by whoever gives the gods their jobs to prevent anything like that from happening.
