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[MasenkoHA]

A lot of times the criticisms that are made of the numerous localization errors that were made by Funimation when they were delivered the DB license tend to be seen as over-reactions or splitting hairs, but honestly I wonder if that precedent didn't start a larger trend for professional EN localizations even past the adaptation era (and in what would otherwise be acceptable, faithful dubs) to miss the point in one way or another when coming across certain terms, with reasons such as deadlines being a likely culprit for the mistakes.
Especially because they still happen to this day.

Some of the causes can include wanting to match the sound of a JP term but not the meaning, which would probably take an entirely different word that functions as a translation, but with or without that, even one letter in a word being changed (like if the wrong homonym is used) can throw things off big time.

Before Funimation was the Ocean dub, where we got that famous line, "Your father was an average fighter, but he was a BRILLIANT scientist!" If I'm not mistaken, they had nothing to go off of other than the Mexican dub they grabbed the footage from, so they were just making stuff up.

The Ocean dub was the Funimation dub as Funimation licensed it, produced it, and were in charge of the scripts (some of the Ocean actors did write scripts for the dub but that lasted well into after Funimation took over dubbing in-house all the way through the UUE era)

And that last part just isn't true. They had English translations from the beginning provided by Toei they apparently weren't very good, but they were definitely easy enough to understand as Funimation was capable of sticking to what the Japanese version said when they felt like it. (The Raditz episodes were relatively faithful for example)

Then there was an old video game, where the Dragon Balls were called crystal balls, and the sprite of the panties Oolong wishes for was flipped upside down and called a sandwich or something. The character on the box doesn't even look like Goku.

The game predates Dragon Ball coming to America so brand name recognition wouldn't work.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

So on September 1st One Piece is coming to BBC iPlayer in the UK. Super, Dragon Quest Dai and Pokemon Journeys were on this service so I guess the BBC's interest in anime is growing. Maybe we could see more Dragon Ball pop up there in future?

[Cure Dragon 255]

So on September 1st One Piece is coming to BBC iPlayer in the UK. Super, Dragon Quest Dai and Pokemon Journeys were on this service so I guess the BBC's interest in anime is growing. Maybe we could see more Dragon Ball pop up there in future?

I can definitely see calling dibs on Daima, the BBC is a much bigger release than Crunchyroll.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

So on September 1st One Piece is coming to BBC iPlayer in the UK. Super, Dragon Quest Dai and Pokemon Journeys were on this service so I guess the BBC's interest in anime is growing. Maybe we could see more Dragon Ball pop up there in future?

I can definitely see calling dibs on Daima, the BBC is a much bigger release than Crunchyroll.

I hate that Crunchyroll want to monopolise the industry, I boycott their streaming service because I don't like giving them any more power. So I'm all for any other streaming service, particularly national ones like BBC iPlayer grabbing up popular titles like One Piece.

If the BBC did license more Dragon Ball it would be great if they could be a platform where the series could be legally consumed with the broadcast audio if they were willing to accept it from fans. Hell put up some of the Canadian dubs. Not sure how likely either scenario is, but surely its more likely than with Crunchyroll?

[timjulius1122]

Sure, I'm basically just planning to report on any upcoming dubs, broadcasts, streams or physical releases of any of the various Dragon Ball series, movies or specials so if anyone has any news please pass it on to me and I'll write an article.

I've just been informed original Dragon Ball will be returning to Poland on the GameToon channel, so I wrote about it and I will write more articles whenever there's new episodes, a change of timeslot or any other series coming to the channel.

Of course once we start getting news about Daima being licensed in international territories and dubbed I'll be reporting on that too. I'll be keeping an eye on where it's being distributed. Hopefully I'll hear about some territories when they are announced and can strike while the iron is hot as there are countries we don't know when exactly Super wad released in like Cambodia and no one noticed when it aired in Russia where it nearly passed us by. Hopefully countries like that I'll be able to report on time and any other countries as they are announced.

This is linked to the research I'm doing to help Derek Padula with the book he wants to write about the history of Dragon Ball in every country as he will be talking about the various releases of Dragon Ball globally up to this point.

My website will deal with the present and future of Dragon Ball licensing and distribution as I am naturally learning about the current stuff as I go too.

How do you plan to manage reporting on Dragon Ball's international releases, especially in regions where information tends to fly under the radar, like Cambodia or Russia?

Just need to keep a close eye on them, I suppose. I'm in a Discord server that keeps on top of these things but even for the most savvy web surfers among us all some stuff still passes us by.

The Kurdish dubs are another one that the fandom at large didn't know about when they premiered on Iraq's 4Anime channel in 2019, but they were discovered two years later and luckily didn't become lost media.

Sadly that seems to have been the fate of the Khmer dubs that I was told aired weekday mornings on CTV9 in Cambodia during the early 2010s.

What steps are you talking about that you take to discover the Kurdish dubs on Iraq's 4Anime, and do you think there’s any way to recover lost Khmer dubs from CTV9 in Cambodia?

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

What steps are you talking about that you take to discover the Kurdish dubs on Iraq's 4Anime, and do you think there’s any way to recover lost Khmer dubs from CTV9 in Cambodia?

I could ask the individual who uncovered the Kurdish dubs. Luckily 4Anime have rerun Dragon Ball Z and Super so there's been a bunch of recordings.

Sadly this person also searched for Khmer anime dubs but couldn't find any other than Doraemon 79 and had to record Reborn himself. From what he saw of Cambodian pirate sites only Thai dramas were being circulated.

So unless there are some Khmer anime dub communities out there that have little public presence the chances of finding recordings of anything they aired in the past is slim unless they are rerun.

I guess maybe keeping an eye on the channels' social media like CTV9 and finding someone who could record when they advertise any anime they're airing would be a start? I can't speak for whether CTV9 or other channels air anime or not. I hope they air Daima though.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

For the figurine enthusiasts here the end of Z Goku Master Stars piece is getting a re-release.

Looks to be for Latin America at the moment.

[SHINOBI-03]

I used to own a Dragon Ball poster that came with a magazine with an art that I don't think I ever saw anywhere else. Basically it was kid Goku in his red gi charging or jumping to his side. Here's my best recreation of the pose the way I remember it

[super michael]

I want to ask has Herms translated all the chapters?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32240
In that topic he got up to chapter 7.

[MisteryOne]

I have mixed feelings on the Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego forms. On the one hand they are really cool but I would like to see a Super Saiyan form that can match them in terms of power tier. Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker is the closest one but even it falls slightly short. I would like to a varient of that form appear in some media.

I mean, Beast is a Super Saiyan form in everything but name and it seems to be able to tie against UI.

[QuakingStar]

I have mixed feelings on the Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego forms. On the one hand they are really cool but I would like to see a Super Saiyan form that can match them in terms of power tier. Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker is the closest one but even it falls slightly short. I would like to a varient of that form appear in some media.

I mean, Beast is a Super Saiyan form in everything but name and it seems to be able to tie against UI.

Beast is an evolution of Gohans Ultimate state and stems from his rage and bottomless potential. It does NOT possess God Ki either and Whis further confirmed that and says it is unique to Gohan, who is special. That's really all we know though. Would be cool of they would release a little info page for the form.

[Jaruka]

I'm doing my head in a bit trying to decide which versions of the blu rays to buy. I've finally decided after a long time to try and collect them and its all a bit... crazy, I think. For context, I'm a Spanish citizen but born in the UK so I can go for either English dub or Spanish and I will be fine.

So the options for Z seem to be:
1. The Seasons Sets - 16:9, seem a bit crap from what everyone says.
2. Manga UK Sets - 4:3 but have their own issues, it seems they're the same as the 30th Anniversary US ones and I cant really tell if these sets really are that bad or it was just the massive disappointment of what they turned out to be.
3. Selecta Visión Sets - These are maybe the best looking, but I would kind of miss having the Falconer music (very nostalgic for me) and also the sets are about 50 EUR each on Amazon...

Which is the other issue. The Seasons are having a reprint in the UK 129GBP, the Manga UK sets will cost me around 190GBP for the full set... but the Selecta sets are around 50EUR each and there's 14 of them... that just feels insane compared to the others (though I know they put a lot more effort in.)

Thinking maybe the Manga UK ones will be the best balance between quality and price, its not like I will be comparing them image by image like people do online, maybe thats making me overthink it.

As an aside, are there any versions of the Super blu rays to avoid? There's a new complete set of those coming to the UK.

[The Monkey King]

Beast is an evolution of Gohans Ultimate state.

Gohan's Beast form having anything to do with his ultimate form has always been fan conjecture head canon.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

As an aside, are there any versions of the Super blu rays to avoid? There's a new complete set of those coming to the UK.

Nope, every release of the Super TV anime looks identical, the only exception is Broly, which you should avoid getting the US release as it has the green tint, UK release is tint-free.

As for Dragon Ball Z, go for the Manga UK Blu-Rays before they go out of print. You've probably guessed it but the new complete series box set will almost certainly be the 2013/14 cropped discs.

[QuakingStar]

Beast is an evolution of Gohans Ultimate state.

Gohan's Beast form having anything to do with his ultimate form has always been fan conjecture head canon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/v ... are_button

https://i.imgur.com/K0FBAqS.png

https://i.imgur.com/oCCABj6.png

Beast itself is unique to Gohan and is based off of the Awakenings he had as a child. This is true, but it is also said to be his true latent potential unleashed, same with Piccolo and his Orange Piccolo form. They are both in their Ultimate States when they awaken these forms as well which was also referred to as their true potential before. These are evolutions of their Ultimate States known as Super Awakenings and Toriyama also implies there is a possibility for Gohan to transform further. So uh, no. Evidence exists while you're just saying "nuh uh".

[ZeroNeonix]

There's something I realized lately. I'm sure I'm not the first person to notice this, but I think Future Trunks predicting when and where Goku would arrive introduces a plot hole. Goku tells Trunks that he was about to use the Instant Transmission to teleport to Earth to take out Frieza. The only reason he didn't was because Trunks beat him to the punch. So then, how did Trunks have foreknowledge about where to wait for Goku if, in the original timeline, Goku didn't arrive in the ship at all?

[QuakingStar]

There's something I realized lately. I'm sure I'm not the first person to notice this, but I think Future Trunks predicting when and where Goku would arrive introduces a plot hole. Goku tells Trunks that he was about to use the Instant Transmission to teleport to Earth to take out Frieza. The only reason he didn't was because Trunks beat him to the punch. So then, how did Trunks have foreknowledge about where to wait for Goku if, in the original timeline, Goku didn't arrive in the ship at all?

Goku was on the ship in both times, he was going to use Instant Transmission from the ship.

[The Monkey King]

https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/v ... are_button

https://i.imgur.com/K0FBAqS.png

https://i.imgur.com/oCCABj6.png

Beast itself is unique to Gohan and is based off of the Awakenings he had as a child. This is true, but it is also said to be his true latent potential unleashed, same with Piccolo and his Orange Piccolo form. They are both in their Ultimate States when they awaken these forms as well which was also referred to as their true potential before. These are evolutions of their Ultimate States known as Super Awakenings and Toriyama also implies there is a possibility for Gohan to transform further. So uh, no. Evidence exists while you're just saying "nuh uh".

... Yeah like I said, Fan conjecture head canon, nothing about any of your "sources" say anything about his Ultimate form directly. Toriyama sure as hell didn't

It's just a Super Rage-boost (SSJ2 rehash) since Toriyama called Gohan's past rage boosts "awakenings"

Mad = Super saiyan
Madder = Ultimate Form
Maddest = Beast

All of Gohan's transformations in Super Hero are related to his rage.

Also how can Orange Piccolo be his "true potential" when Shenron stated he threw in a little extra?

Sorry, I'm not convinced by flowery language used in a trailer

[Zephyr]

If all of his transformations are related to rage, then they are connected to one another in that way.

[The Monkey King]

If all of his transformations are related to rage, then they are connected to one another in that way.

Not in the way I was talking about, making your post a moot point.